Boy Band Series: NSYNC, Part 2

Join us for the second part of our NSYNC deep dive -- and this time we have info on the individual members of the group (and we also have a new table on set, which we will talk about numerous times).

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Transcript

Table Setup And Xennial Welcome

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Maybe when you finally get to love somebody, guess what?

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Guess what it's gonna be me. Hello, everyone. That was a hard stop. That was like I felt like a conductor, like when I if you're only listening, I just did a end sign. Anyway, hello everyone. Hello, welcome back.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

If you're watching us, we feel very weird. We have a new setup that Katie was insistent upon. And I don't know what to do with myself. We have a table now. We do in front of us. Y'all know how Katie brings in the papers with her notes. I have my notes on the table though, which is nice. So we're in full news reporter mode. Remember that one time we had the table? Yeah. And it was like, hello, it's five o'clock, and welcome to your evening news. This, I don't know what it feels like.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

I that was a loud tummy rumble. It's early and my tummy's still rumbling. I am excited about this table because, and we didn't do it today. We're going to have cute little coffee mugs every time. Not too much. Well, we already have a little assortment here. Actually, we do, so don't worry, guys. Katie, are you okay?

unknown 1:08

I am.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Tell me. I'm okay. Did you practice? Yeah. Okay. I had egg bites from Starbucks. Okay. Well, yeah. I guess I just needed more. That's okay. Wasn't. Um, but anyway, hello everyone. Welcome back. I know we look different with our table. I don't know what to do with my generation in between.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

You ever be like that on stage sometimes? Like, yeah. You don't know what your character choice is with arms. And so it's like, what am what do I what am I doing with my arms?

SPEAKER_01 1:35

That's how I am today. I feel like I need to. And since I'm mostly talking, she might be doing all sorts of things today with the arms. So if you don't normally watch us on YouTube, I would suggest going and uh giving this one a little watch. Who knows what's gonna happen? Um, but yes, you're listening to Generation in Between a Xennial podcast where we remember, revisit, re-listen, sometimes we learn all kinds of things from being 80s kids and 90s teens, and I'm Katie. And I'm Damien. And I feel like we should say, instead of sometimes relearn, it's probably always relearn. I think we just thought, like, that was a cute way to say it. It was sometimes we learn new things, guys, but actually every time.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Every time.

Boy Band Series Wrap Plan

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Every time. And hopefully you do too, listeners. Today we are actually wrapping up a two-part series on the turn of the century. I wanted to say that one boy band sensation. 98 to 2002, guys.

unknown 2:27

In sync.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Turn of the century. Turn of the century. Boy band sensation. Look, now I can't stop banging on the table. This is gonna be a problem. I might change my mind about this setup. I can't really quickly. Listen, I don't know what's gonna happen. It's like I've never been at a table before. First day, first day at the table, guys. You know, like when babies started high chairs. You're in your high chair. You're like the little baby from dinosaurs. And also when we sat down, Katie was like, Are you because these chairs are lower? She's like, Are you okay? And do you need a booster?

SPEAKER_01 3:00

And I was serious.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Valid question.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

But I actually look all right. You do look great.

unknown 3:05

You look great.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

I look alright, high-wise. You got it. You've got this. Um, so this is the last boy band of our boy band series. We're gonna do one more episode. Correct. Which um is not one boy band specific, but we are gonna watch the boy band confidential docuseries.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

There's three of the four episodes out now.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Okay, so maybe they must come out with a new one each week. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

So we'll just hopefully get to all four. If not, we'll watch the first three.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

We'll learn a lot.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

I started watching it yesterday, but my Hulu has commercials again. So it's taking forever.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Are you not paying for it?

SPEAKER_02 3:33

I thought I was, but I don't know what happened. I don't know either. You know how they always change things. They do, and then it's annoying because then you have to go back and like so, but I didn't have time to deal with that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Are you I'm really worried about your tummy rumble. Do you need to be able to do that? Don't get a little beast of candy or something. Because I'm actually fine, I promise. Okay. I promise. Excuse me.

unknown 3:54

See?

SPEAKER_01 3:55

See, it's digestion. It's not hunger, it's digestion. Oh, okay. Here's what's happening. Okay, welcome everyone. We're gonna get on. Middle-aged ladies. I'm almost 44.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

I think about it. I know. Birthday soon.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Next week, next week. Um, all right. So we will be watching Boy Bang Confidential for our next episode. Just watching it. Yes, just watching it, and then of course talking. We're like, no research, please. No research. And honestly, it'll probably cover some of the stuff we found, especially for InSync, just because Joey Fitone's the producer, and I feel like a lot of the stuff I found for InSync well was from that documentary.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

And there's a lot of stuff we already talked about with um Backstreet Boys and Lou Pearlman and Boys to Men's on there too.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

So it's like I was I was feeling very proud of us. I was watching it because I was like, oh, we already knew that. Oh, we already said that. Oh, we already know that.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

So, but it it was I like that he talked, well, and we'll talk more about it when we get there next week. But I like that he talked to a bunch of different groups, me too.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

And over like a decent span of years, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

Yeah, it seems like he did a really good job.

Last Week Audio Mishap

SPEAKER_01 5:00

So if you listen to part one, which hopefully you did, because I'm gonna just breeze over the in sync stuff. Yeah, the in sync years, we are not talking about purpose. Each person, there's five members of the group. I'm gonna do what you did. I'm gonna start with the oldest and go to the youngest. Okay, should we address our sound issue from last week? Sure. So, well, so if you listen to the episode, it was it probably just sounded a little off, but you could hear us.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

You know what I sounded like? It was I sounded like Daria the whole time. You kind of did. I know. I was like, why was I so tired that day? And then I watched the clips on Riverside, I was like, no. I was like, oh, it's because we had something happened with our mics. Shocking. And um, it only picked up our computer sound, not our mics. So Katie had to find something to run it through, like an uh an app to fix it. Your voice sounds the exact same.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

It sounds close. I will say when we're singing together, which is unfortunate because we sang a lot together on the episode, it sounds really bad murky. Yeah, like not even like off key necessarily, but like, well, I mean, we were a little off key. That would have happened no matter what, is what I'm saying. Right. The thing I ran it through the audio enhancer, it just made us sound um, I don't know what it is. It's not clear. I still sound different. Yeah, it's not AI, I promise. But no, it wasn't AI, it's an actual audio enhancement system, yeah. And and thankfully, we were able to release it then because I was like the first version, I was like, we're gonna just have to re-record it.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

And it was really long.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

And plus, it's like not the same when we re-record. We've had to do that what once or twice. Now we did it with um Jamila and one of our own, I think. We had to do twice. Yeah, Jamila and then what was the other one? There was another one, and it it's not the same when you're trying to like learn things for the first time. And we were honest both times, and so we already talked about this, but we're back. But you know, and also so much time wasted. I hate wasted time.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

God help us all. I know I hate that too, because we don't have that much to begin with. I hate to do it. And neither do you listeners.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Okay, okay. So speaking up, oh I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Oh gosh, the mics are probably picking that up. That's gonna sound great. Because listen, I'm gonna love it. It's from far away. It's terrible. It's from far away. Okay, so remember last week I said that they really only they stayed together till 2002. They disbanded. So I was like, oh, there's not like all this other stuff to fill in. But boy, these five gentlemen have been so busy from that time till now that there's a lot on all of them. I really could not include everything, particularly for Justin Timberlake. There are some things I just have to glaze over because I'd rather talk about the more interesting things like Nipplegate, you know, yes, areas and all that. Yes, that stupid music group was listed again for today, and I just didn't even put it in. I was like, I already talked about them. It's the German Areolas, guys. I was up.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

I wanted to make that one of our sound bites, but I was like, oh, Katie sometimes gets mad when I do ones like that.

Chris Kirkpatrick Origins And Poverty

SPEAKER_01 7:51

I'm a little shy. I'm a little shy. Sometimes. Okay, so let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

I believe it. I left it off.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Don't worry. You didn't listen to part one. I would suggest listening to that first. Of course. All right, so oldest member of the group, Chris Kirkpatrick. Oh, he's the oldest? I thought Joey was. Uh-uh. Okay. And he was born in 1971 in Pennsylvania to his mother, Eunice. She was 16 and a single mom. All right. She later got married, and he does have four half-sisters. Okay. So he's the oldest of the kids. He is of Irish, Scottish, Native American, and Hispanic descent. He grew up in extreme poverty, even after his mom remarried and everything. Um that ended in divorce or breakup too. So it was basically his mom and five kids. So they were um unhoused a lot of his young life. He credits like school lunches to like feeding him. He's shared in interviews a memory of a winter that they were in, just I don't know, some trailer, some abandoned trailer, but had a huge hole in the side. So his mom would just like stuff it with dirty laundry to try to keep them warm. So, no mention of like substance use or anything. I just think like probably sh the mom got off to a bad start being a single mom as a teenager. Probably, I don't know, but maybe came from poverty or herself.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

And our country is not set up to help take care of people. Yeah, we're just not not properly. We we have friends that work in that. Absolutely, and that can tell us that. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

So after he graduated from high school in 1990, he moved to Orlando and actually reached out to his biological father. Oh, who he got to know. And I don't know if the guy didn't know about him. I couldn't find a lot on that, or if he did and was like a deadbeat, I have no idea. But at that point, they did establish a relationship and he offered to pay for his college. Wow. So that's what made me think maybe the dad didn't know, or somehow they got disconnected over the years. Who knows? Either way, people change. Um, so that's when he went to Valencia College, where he actually intended to pursue acting, but when he joined their choir, he actually got offered some music scholarships.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

But he had to change his major. So he changed his major to music to help like get the scholarship.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

So he was at school and they were like, Let me give you a scholarship.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Yeah. We want you in our music program. Yeah. So that's look at that guy. Love that. Uh so he started forming various accoppella groups, arranging music. He actually auditioned for and became involved in the Caroling company, which I don't believe still exists, but when I lived in Orlando, did it's just what it sounds like. It's like singing carols. Singing carols, like telegrams, kind of.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

You know, that's on my list of things I want to do. Have you seen that lady Joy Booker? She like, she's super famous now. She wears a stupid costume and like goes and makes up singing telegrams to people. You would be great at that. I know, and it's so dumb. It's like she started off just having, I think her original costume was like a heart and like it was like an organ heart. And she would go like make and now she has like several costumes and she just like rewrites words to like songs, and then she'll just show up at somebody's office with like a balloon and she's dressed, and then she's like, Hey Larry.

unknown 11:07

Hey Larry.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

She's like, Your wife wants to say, I want it that way.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

It's hilarious. First of all, this is such a great business idea for you because you already have so many costumes. Right. And I know. Even if you just started for certain holidays and you're like, guys, I'm available. Valentine's Day. That day only. I 50 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

The only thing is, she has somebody that goes with her because well, yeah. You have to have somebody because people be weird sometimes and be like, well, I'll pay you$50 to come.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

I guess you would it would have to determine if it was a public place or not. Right. Like if you're going to a house, you would have to stay on the porch, probably. But then yeah, you probably need a handler.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Well, I can be your handler. Oh, yeah, in all your free time. I will do it. Katie. Bouncer. Bouncer status. Relax.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

No.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

She's she just told me yesterday she was looking for another job. She was 60 jobs.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

I just found it.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Well, see?

SPEAKER_01 12:02

See? You give me 50 cents.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

I ain't got no money of what you earn on the telegrams, which is five dollars.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

You give me 50 cents, and after several weeks I would have a coffee.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

I have always wanted to do this, and I may end up doing it because I would probably do it days like I don't, I'm not teaching classes or be like Tuesday, Thursdays, these days of the month from this time. This is honestly a really good one. I know. I have been thinking of this for years. I love it. Doesn't Troy get every other Friday off? He do. No, we are not working together. Nope. Well, he can just go with you. Nope.

unknown 12:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

He likes to like his he gets frustrated when he has to like even go to a doctor's appointment on his day off. That's fair. Because there's and everybody else out there, like that we all squeeze and stuff whenever we can. It's like, well, who cares?

SPEAKER_01 12:49

I get it though. And I think too, there's something about having a weekday off.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

That's so special. Well, and plus, like, nobody's in the house, too, when he's home. And we all know how treasured that is when you have kids and live with or live with anybody really with anyone. Because I'm teaching on Fridays and I'll go run errands and do whatever I need to do. Cooper's at school, Caden's at college, obviously. So he has like time in the house alone. I love that. Treasured, right? I know. Treasured. So we all understand when you can drink your coffee and ain't nobody bothering you. And you don't have to go do work. And you're in your comfy pants.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

I love it. All right. Well, not Troy. Stay tuned singing television. So we did something like that. So see, Chris Kirkpatrick could consult with you.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

He probably didn't dress like an organ.

Chris Post-NSYNC Music And TV

SPEAKER_01 13:35

You never know. I mean he could have. You never know. Uh, and then he ended up becoming a duo op singer at Universal Studios. Oh fun. Yeah, which is fun. And he received his associate degree in music from Valencia in 1993. Yeah. He actually received, I didn't know this the last week when I did the research, another scholarship to attend Rollins, which is crazy expensive. But he wasn't there long because of InSync. But he was a tr originally trying to study music and psychology. And the name of that duo group, I forgot to say, is the Hollywood High Tones. He was also a photographer at that time at SeaWorld. And this is okay, this is crazy. He waited tables at Outback Steakhouse. Why is that crazy? I think it's the same one I worked at later. I looked it up. But he's way older than you. No, this would have been well, yeah. It right. We wouldn't have been there the same time. Oh, okay. I would have been there like that. I would have been there 2006. Okay. 2007. So before. So he would have been there. But that's funny. I think it's the same one. That's hilarious. Yeah, it's on 192 down in Kissimmee. Yeah. So I I looked it up. I like literally Googled which Outback did. And it just kept saying he worked at an Outback. He ran, you know, on the tourist trip. But you know, sometimes now there's like multiple restaurants, different places. And I think there are two or three Outbacks around the tourist trip. But when I was first there, that was the only one. Like people will come all the way down to Kissimmee for it. That's hilarious. So I bet it was the same one. That's crazy. That's crazy. All right. So we already talked about how Chris Kirkpatrick is one of the main reasons InSync exists. We talked about that on part one. They ended up selling 70 million records in their heyday. And you can go back and listen to all of that. So we're gonna skip over InSync, their heyday. Yeah, because we already talked about it. So after InSync disbanded or stopped, they've I guess they've officially never broke up, supposedly. Like they never announced a breakup. Okay. But they also just don't work together and they're not reuniting for anything. Well, and they also talk about like if they're getting back together or not. Right. So whatever. Potato potato, I guess. That is its motto. There you go. So he started working on several music music projects after InSync. He was the lead singer for an alternative rock band called Nigel's 11. What's that from? It was formed in Florida in 2007, and it was him, Mike Bosch on guitar, David Carrero bass, and Ernie Longoria on drums. Is he related to Ava Longoria? I don't think so. But she comes up in our story today. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, so they debuted a song in 2004. He worked on it till about 2009. Um, well, 2010, I guess. And it never really went anywhere. But they do have some albums out. Okay. And they had sort of this like 70s, 80s rock vibe. So they had the same sound as Electric Light Orchestra, Queen, Boston.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

That sounds fun.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

So that was one project. Uh, then I don't know how I didn't know this, but he was the voice of Chip Skylark on Fairly Odd Parents. Really? For the whole series.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

That's so crazy.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Yeah. And he also has been on numerous reality TV shows, Celebrity Big Brother, Mass Singer. And then another one. Everybody in a fucking boy band on Mass Singer. So this is crazy. He was in another one called Gone Country. And he was doing country? He did country music on there. So this man can sing everything, I guess. Yeah. And he got second on the show. He lost to Sebastian Bach.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Can you believe that?

SPEAKER_03 17:11

What?

SPEAKER_01 17:11

But that but that was the point. It was like singers, I didn't watch at the time, but I read up on it for this. It was singers from other genres. Got it. Who that took a stab and they had to write their own music and songs. Jeez. So like he did. And John Rich from Big and Rich was like the producer and the judge. And he basically like gushed over Chris Kirkpatrick. What is Big and Rich? Big and Rich sings um Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy. Them. Your favorite.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

I hate country making a lot of things. I love that song.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

They sing other songs too, but that's but that one everyone knows. So he um did well on that show too. Okay. So you go, Chris Kirkpatrick. He also agreed to host and star in the MTV reality show, Mission Man Band, um, along Rich Cronin of LFO. He was Cronin was battling leukemia at the time. He did eventually pass away. He did? Oh my god, I didn't either. Uh also on that show was Brian Abrams of Color Me Bad and Jeff Timmins of 98 Degrees. So they were trying to raise money for research, and even though he passed away, I think that they were successful at raising money. So that's good. Um, I just talked about the gone country thing. I kind of got ahead of myself, I guess. But other people on the show, Sebastian Bach Bach, Jermaine Jackson, Lorenzo Lamas, and Sean Young. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

How do you say Lorenzo Lamas? I can't, yes. Golly, he's still around, I guess. Like doing stuff. Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

This was a while back, but yeah. Um well, true, that was a while ago. I think like things 20 years ago was like yesterday, so whatever. I already kind of mentioned Celebrity Big Brother. He also was, because we always want to talk about what they were disguised as on the best singer. I do like to know that. He was a hummingbird.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

O MG. Yes, the the selections kill me. Who was a bison or something? The bison were the boys to men. Oh my god, they were all of them.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

Or three. They were buffaloes. Why did I say bison? No, I think they were bison, though. I think it was buffaloes. Oh, maybe it was. But I was thinking bison. Weird. I don't know. Okay. No. The answer is always no. Um, he plays second. He lost to Amber Riley, who was a harp.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Who's Amber Riley? I have no idea. I was hoping you would know.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

I was like, it's gotta be a celebrity. Does anyone know who Amber Riley is? Somebody do, and they're yelling. Not someone from Xennial fame. Not maybe it's like an influencer. Probably someone young, yeah. And then his home was also featured on an MTV episode of Cribs. Man, I loved that show. I like that show too. I used to love that show.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

It's fascinating. All the weird shit people have.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

And like how different like one place was. It is when they have it. Sheez. So besides television, he's done some minor acting. He was in Trolls Band Together. He voiced Tricky. He was in Sharknado 3. Hey. Where he played a lifeguard. Okay. And Dead Seven, that 2016 Western zombie film written by Nick Cardiff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the role of Mayor Shelby. We need to watch this at Halloween time. We should. We should. Um, he's also the founder and president of the clothing company Fooman Skeeto. Ever heard of it? No. Me either. I looked up their website. It's all like Zennial Y2K type stuff.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

It's really cute. It's like accessories, pins, t-shirts, all kinds of stuff. What? Yeah. It's a really cool site. Um, they how do they describe it? It's still popping. Yeah, I clicked on things and it looked like you could buy it. Katie's like, I clicked on it. The website looks like it's not been updated since like 2005, but it looks like you can buy things.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

Is your stomach opaque? You guys don't even know the sounds. Your stomach is not happy with those egg bites.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

It is not. It is mine about it. So the description on the website is Foom's Skeeto is wearable art for millennials who survive dial-up, flip flowns, and reality TV drama. Inspired by TV shows, faux reality, chaos, and pop culture that raised us our pins, apparel, and accessories pack all the Y2K vibes and early 2000s nostalgia you secretly miss. Plus a little sprinkle of what's hot right now. Perfect for rocking retro flair with zero shame. Isn't that a great description?

Live Show Tickets And Giveaways

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Okay, well, now we need to buy some stuff. We do. We need to do it. You know what? Speaking of buying stuff, I have been collecting things um to give away to our people at that come to our live event in July. That's so exciting. Some of it is gently used. That's like from a thrift store or something. Yeah. Um, and some is not. But I was like, we're just gonna have a bat uh old navy bag, which is pretty xennial. I love it. Full of random shit. That is uh some is new, some is not, and we're just gonna give it away. We should do like a raffle basket, too. No, we're not. Why not? People can buy raffle tickets. Less work, less work, less work. Let's get some gift cards. Katie's always trying some. And I'm like, give us a gift card. No, leave it. We're going to keep it simple. We're having old Navy bag of prizes. Make sure you get your tickets, though, guys. A bucket for people to put money in. There we go. It's gonna be that's it. That's it. That's it. We're gonna have people put their names in a jar if they want to have a chance to come on stage with us and compete against us with trivia and probably win. If Ben Benya comes, we're fucked. Just saying. He'll win everything. He only gets one time. Yeah. You can only go one time.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

And do they pick who they compete against or do they have to flip a coin?

SPEAKER_02 22:43

No, no, no. We'll figure that out. I think we'll take turns and we'll just each we'll draw like a few. If you draw someone and they go against you.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Because we can work out logistics later. But I think that's gonna be fun. I think that'll be fun. Because then you won't no, they don't get to pick because that's not fair. Because then they'd be like, well, Danny don't know stuff, so let me let's go. They would probably say that about me. Well, they'd probably say about both of us, let's go.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

That's true. So it's whatever.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Either way you go, you'll probably win.

unknown 23:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

There you go. But make sure you get your tickets. Get your ticket seating. It's free.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Yeah, and we've already have like, I think like a dozen people. We've only got 40 seats available. So yeah. Better get your seat.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Get your seat now for July 3rd. July 3rd, 2026. If you're listening to this in the year 2030.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

I still laugh at that at that clip.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

I know. In the year 2000. You know what's oh, I thought that was on the side of the mic. Oh no. Okay, here we go. It's because I gotta put my papers in front of me. Here we go. Hello, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Breaking news from 2004. Chris Kirkpatrick founded his own nonprofit organization.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Okay. That's true, though. The Chris Kirkpatrick Foundation and in seeks to enhance the lives of underprivileged children in Central Florida. So it provides money for healthcare, education, developmental monitoring programs. And of course, he cited his own difficult childhood as the inspiration for starting this, which I think is great. As we've mentioned, a lot of these um boy band members have done similar things, uh, causes that are close to their heart. He also hosts annual events for children. And today he continues to write and produce music, work with charities, he manages other artists, he's performed in events across the country. He did this Pop 2000 tour that had Otown, Smashmouth, Ryan Cabrera, LFO, and Mark McGrath. Fun. I vaguely remember that. Uh and then he does he co-hosts a podcast called Name Drop with Brian McFadden. That's who he co-hosts with, I guess. Oh, that's um what's he from? No idea. Well, we'll think about it. We don't know stuff. All right. We get things. We do things wrong. Yeah. Oh, we don't know. He has been married to Carly Skladaney since November 2nd, 2013, and they married at the Lowe's Resort Hotel in Orlando with all of the InSync members in attendance as ushers. And they have one son and they live in Nashville. So only controversy really about this guy is you know that Eminem lyric. Kirkpatrick, get your ass kicked, or something like that. First of all, they have the same birthday, which is kind of fun. So apparently, like he's happy about that lyric because he got mentioned in an Eminem song. Hey, yeah, infamous is great. And Eminem has said he picked him of like all the boy band members for that song because Chris had been quoted, basically sort of like dissing Eminem, just like this guy, like all he ever does is like talk shit about people. Like why does he do that? Like blah blah blah. That's his whole thing. And I guess Eminem was like, This is the only dude brave enough to like say something about me, so I'm gonna put him in my song. I wouldn't mind somebody put me in a song. No, love he just says Chris Kirkpatrick, you could get your ass kicked. Worse than them little limb biscuit bastards. Well, they make it they make fun of him in that video too, I think.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Yeah, but I guess Chris was like, that's cool, but you know, they're not really making fun of him, it's his persona, and like that's Eminem, you know, that's his Eminem's persona's whole Right.

JC Chasez Childhood And Mickey Mouse Club

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Like it's kind of tongue in cheek because he's Eminem is doing in that song what Chris Kirkpatrick is saying. Why does he always do this? He's like name-dropping everyone in a negative way. So that's Chris Kirkpatrick, everyone. Well done. Turn on one down. Second oldest, still not to Joey yet. Really? J C okay, I looked it up. It's Shawze. Okay, I said it right. Yes.

unknown 26:37

What?

SPEAKER_01 26:38

J C Shawze, his full name is Joshua Scott.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

But the the C Oh look at you spelling out at it.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

I know. I wanted to say it right.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

She spelled it. S-H-A-W-Z-A-Y.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

And obviously goes by J C because of his first and last name. And he was born in 1976 in Washington, D.C. Also kind of born to um an underprivileged family. When he was five, his biological mother gave up her guardianship and actually gave it over to her former foster parents. Oh. So she had gone through their house, Roy and Karen Chauset, who worked uh as a technology company consultant, the dad, and the mom as an editor. And he was actually adopted by the couple and was raised Mennonite. As a Mennonite. Wow. Along with their own children, Tyler and Heather. Is that like Amish or is that different? It's like this a step away from Amish. Like still very um not of I don't know what the word is, old-fashioned, I guess. I don't know how else to say it, but not completely Amish. Like, got it. Electricity and all that, yes. Okay, okay. But not like a lot of like frills and got it fancy things. But he has to turn the air down here. We go do that. Um if you want to. Sorry. I feel okay. Okay, I'll wait. Let's just let's just sweat it out. We'll just see. We'll make it through fancy. He was a shy kid, but he has said that he had like a wonderful childhood, loves his family, all the things. So that's good. Uh he did he was shy, but he loved dancing. So they put him in dance classes. So a friend in middle school dared him to enter the talent contest. Aw. And so he did, and he's saying, Right here waiting by Richard Marks. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Right here waiting for you.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

And he won. Cute. So his mom saw in the Washington Post a call for the movie Newsies. Oh my god, I love I love newsies.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

And I'm sorry, I like the movie better than the stage version. Honestly, I like both of them. It was first though. It was first. It was first. And I saw it in the theater. And when Christian Bale came on screen, I was done. Get out of here. I want to watch it again.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

I mean, I probably could do that if I'd really like to. It's on Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

We should do an episode on that. Sarah was like, I have to come on, but we're not doing guests right now, Sarah. Don't be upset. It's just too hard.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

It's too hard.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

So if we do a newsties episode, we're not throwing you shade and not inviting you. We're not inviting anybody.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

We're not inviting anybody to anything. Just kidding. No, except our live event. No. But Sarah can't come to that either.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

I've had a lot of people reach out lately about.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

I mean, it's a holiday weekend. Oh, sorry. We are talking about two different things, but both involve Sarah.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Okay. A lot of people have asked me, like, hey, are you doing guests? I want to cut. And I'm like, no, we're not doing it. It's just too hard with scheduling, guys. It is. It is.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

We're enough. And Sarah is a career lady boss at the moment, too. Well, so are you. I mean, she was before. You kind of control yourself. She doesn't have as much flexibility. Correct. Okay. Anyway, so his mom saw this national car call for newsies and took him. Was he in it? Uh, no, because apparently the day that he went, whatever roles they were still casting, I think he came in like late in the casting game. They said he was too old or too tall for what they still needed. But this is crazy, in the same building, they were like, Oh, but there's an audition like right next door for the Mickey Mouse Club. So he went and auditioned for the all-new Mickey Mouse Club or whatever it was and got cast. Isn't that crazy? That's so fun. You go for Newsies, you leave with Mickey Mouse Club. I mean, you can't lose. And they're both Disney. Like Newsies was a Disney movie. So it's probably just a big Disney casting, I would imagine. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? N DC. Like he wasn't even in like New York or LA or anything or Orlando, no. So he got cast in that, and then of course he moved to Orlando, and he was on seasons four to seven, which was 1991 to 94. And seven was the last season. They didn't renew it for 95. He was. He was in the among the people within those seasons that he was alongside Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Carrie Russell, Ryan Gosling, Rona Bennett, and Tony Luca. So many people were on. So many, so many. I used to love watching that. And him and Justin Timberlake became like fast friends. And we talked about this in the last episode when the show ended. They moved together to Nashville, sort of like he went home first to try to raise some money, but in the end, they were both in Nashville when the call for InSync came in, and they were trying to figure out how to become performers there when all that started. So we already talked about most of that. So then when he was still a member of InSync, he appeared on the remix album versions of the 1999 single Bring It All to Me. Do you remember that? Oh baby, bring it all to me. Bring it all, bring it all. That one by Black.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

Give me your time, your love, your space, your energy. Oh my gosh. So my friend in college, Al, him and I totally he was in the closet at the time. We would listen to that on the repeat in my car. I love that song. Oh my god. And he would sing JC, and I would sing all the other parts.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

And JC sounds so good in that song. So good. Everybody does, but like I love that song.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Oh man, I haven't thought about that song in so long. Yeah. If well, Al, I haven't talked to you in years, but if you hear this, that was such a fun memory. Hi, Al. Hi to meet you.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Okay, so if you're listening. So he also started songwriting and production for other groups, including Wild Orchid, at that time.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Well he was still Wild Orchid.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

I was trying to remember their song. It was a girl group, but I don't remember. So then once InSync was on hiatus, which ended up being forever, he continued as a songwriter and producer, and he recorded that song Blowin' Me Up with Her Love. Blowing Me Up with Her Love. He's like dancing, and oh he's dancing. When I show you the video, I've got to be able to do it. You'll be like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

So that was that was his song. And it was a solo song. Yeah. And he actually. So this is what's interesting. He was working on that and releasing stuff around the same time. Justin Timberlake was doing the same. It's just that Justin Timberlake's like real but blowing me up with her love was popular.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

I don't remember it at all.

JC Solo Album And Nipplegate Timing

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Yeah, he that one was pretty popular. And he well, it was on the drumline soundtrack. Remember that movie Drumline? Yeah, it was so good. Yeah. So he was on that, he recorded it for that soundtrack. But it was a solo song. So then he went ahead and started working on a solo album with Jive Records. And his album's called Schizophrenic, which is a little cringy to think about at the moment. Yeah. That was released in 2004, February 2004. So it dropped the full album the week before the halftime scandal, Nipplegate, etc. Nippleg. So it affected how his album did, He Thinks. Because, well, one, there was just so much press around that, but also people didn't want him to come like dance and do stuff because of the whole thing. They're gonna be able to get rid of somebody's clothes off. Exactly. So, and they felt like like one of his singles was called Some Girls Dance with Women. So take that for what it is. I mean, I sounds pretty self-explanatory. And people were like, oh no, too sexy, like after everything that just happened. Because you know it's women, so it's we're so sexy. I don't know. And so this is crazy. So he was supposed to perform it at the Pro Bowl, which was after the Super Bowl, and they were like, Nope, sorry, you're not coming. He was replaced with Hawaiian hula dancers. Okay, but that's fun. That is fun. But what?

SPEAKER_02 34:28

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

I don't know. Well, yeah, okay. So anyway, he actually started work on a second album called The Story of Kate, and Timberlake produced a few songs for the album, and at that time said, and that's what I said last week, guys. Just saying, Jay Timberlake agrees with me, and this is his quote. In my opinion, JC has the best voice out of all of us, out of all the boy bands, call him what you will, he's the one that can outsing all of us. So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Well, you know, I kind of agree, Doc. He's a good singer. He's good. I mean, I saw something on when I was started to watch Boy Band Confidential. There's one of the guys who is like one of their managers or something, or and he was like, I remember when we had all of them, when they all five of them were together, and I would watch them rehearse, and I'd be like, You gotta get rid of that one, talking about Justin Summerlake. Because he's like, his voice is so nasally, and he's just like he's like But that's what made him famous. I know. He was like, We have to get rid of him, and like I can't stand him. And he's like, and then I was wrong. Like it's like obviously I was incorrect, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Like Brittany, right? Well, I mean, she sings in a fake voice. I know if you listen to her singing on Mickey Mouse Club, but I'm saying it's a real voice, her voice can do that, is what her is her like right, even now when people sing Britney, they do it. Like, yeah, I don't want to do it right now because I'm sad about Britney, otherwise I would do mine. I know. Um, so right after that lovely quote about JC from Timberlake, I said the album was never released. Oh boo! Yeah, yeah, yeah. The story of Kate never came out. Never came out. Who's Kate? I don't know. I wondered that. I think it's his mom.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Aww. What's her name?

SPEAKER_01 36:15

You didn't write it down? I couldn't find it. Yeah. Well, she's she gave him up for adoption. So it might not be out in the I mean, I'm sure it's someone knows somewhere, but it wasn't just like publicly out there. But it wasn't his adopted mom. No, because her name, I said her name. I don't, unless it was Catherine. Oh my gosh, was it? Let's find out. We're about to know. Karen. Okay. So maybe it is.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Maybe maybe it was his birth mom.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I don't know. Mystery. Mystery continues. All right. So then that kind of ended his whole foray into being a solo artist, at least in a traditional way. Sorry, I'm trying to. No, you're good. No way.

Aging Bodies And Short People Habits

SPEAKER_02 36:54

I love that. That looks fun. Well, this is okay. So what I just did was, okay, my fellow shorty people out there know this thing. And it becomes a problem when you get to middle age. We are can there are so many times when you are of a certain height, when you're sitting in a chair and your feet dangle, and you don't want to feel your feet dangle, so you get used to folding your your legs up into a chair, such as I'm doing, such as now. Lovely, and I've done it my whole life, except now I can't do it for very long because then it hurts. And so, uh, but it's still like it's like a life habit. Like when you're in a chair and your feet start dangling, you just fold your legs up. I'm not kidding. Watch short people all over the world do this, and it's and see, she's like, what is that? It looks fun because tall people have never had to do this, and it's like this weird coping mechanism. I'm telling you. I'm gonna start watching all the short people of the world. They know what I'm watching you. Y'all know what I mean, shorties out there, because we'd be folding our legs up in chairs. I believe you just know when you get to be 45, it's coming. It's it ain't and I'm like, I don't understand why this. I have saying the other day, like, I was sitting like this for a while at the kitchen table doing stuff, and I got down. I got down. I got down because I was so I was like, oh my god, ow, ow, ow, like my knees, my hips. And I was like, Troy was, I was like, I don't know why this hurts all of a sudden. Like, I use this like this all the time. He's like, Because you're 45. Like, that's why.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah, like for me, and yes, I do have arthritis, but even so, I think some of it's just aging. I hurt worse when I sit still now than when I move. Same or sitting or standing. So even at home, if I'm on my laptop, I will put it on the counter now and stand. Yeah. Because I have to sit when I'm playing piano with my singing students. But if we're doing a warm-up, I'll stay like any chance I can get to stand up, I do because it hurts to sit.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

That's just the reality. Well, and you have knee things, and that's like oh and when it just sits stagnant, forget it. Forget it. I get it. All my hips are the same way. My hips don't lie, guys. Her hips don't lie.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

Well, I like oh, my stomach doesn't lie. We're a mess. We're a mess. Okay, we're gonna keep going. We are a mess. Because JC is not a mess, don't worry. No, he's not. He became a judge. Did you ever watch America's Best Dance Crew? Yeah, that was a good one. I loved that show. So he was like one of the OGs. I remember that. He was on there for like seven years because he is a great dancer. Uh, and he gave good feedback. I always felt like he was good at that, too, good at coaching. He was actually in 2014 selected to join the North American tour of the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar. Nice as Pontius Pilot. Nice. Other people that were in that cast was Ben Forster. Uh, he was it said superstar winner. I don't know what that means. But anyway, Incubus's Brandon Boyd, Destiny's Child, Michelle Williams. I love her. Public Image Limited's John Leiden. I don't know what any of that means. I know the Destiny Child person. No, I mean Public Image Limited. Yeah. Oh, that's what it's called. I don't know. Do you know what that is? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

I like to ask you questions like this because you do this to me. No, because you do it to me when I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Well, he was in the cast, and apparently this was an all-star studded cast. He um Shaze was also featured on a new version of the song My Girl with Smokey Robinson on the album Smokey and Friends. Okay. Yeah, that was in 2016. And then he was also in a 2016 film called Opening Night. I never saw that. And he played a dramatized version of himself. I don't know what that means. I'd like to see it though. I mean, I know what that means. I've never seen it. I don't know what that means, a dramatized version of himself. What does that mean? Uh, and then I didn't know about this either. In 2019, him and Lance Bass, Joey Fatone, Chris Kirkpatrick performed with Ariana Grande at Coachella. Yeah. Gotta find video of that. I feel amazing.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Um I feel like Coachella sounds fun, but I feel like uh we're way too old to enjoy it. We'd hate it to be. We would hate it so much.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

I know my brother-in-law went two years ago, and he's 40 now. Right, but is he outdoorsy? He is outdoorsy. Yeah, he's like a hiker. I'm not doing the festival nonsense unless I'm an idea. And he said it was great, but I forgot about that. He likes he does the outdoor stuff, yeah. Then in 2023, he appeared as a guest on Lance Bass's Frosted Tips podcast. I need to start listening to that. Yeah, it he hasn't posted anything new since 2024. I know, but I can just go back and listen to that. Yeah, because he's like interviewing people that we know. Yeah. Yeah, so it looks, it looks really good. And he said at that time on the podcast he was working on a musical and he did release it. It's called Playing with Fire, and it's inspired by Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Oh. So what he did was he released a concept album so you can like listen to it. So it hasn't been like produced into a full stage thing yet, but there is like a concept album of the music with people singing the songs and stuff. Yeah. So he's very talented. He has never been married. He has been linked to some high-profile ladies, including Eva La. And do you remember when he dated Tara Reed? Oh, yeah. It was that whole thing and Carson Daly and all that stuff. Yep, yep. I forgot about that. He has been dating the same girl since 2019, and her name's Jennifer Huyang, and they live together, but they're just not married. Valid choice. There you go. No children or anything like that. Valid choice. No real controversy about him. Well, he's just he's just out here singing. I'd love to say his last name. I know. It helped me when I spelled it out, even though I heard you say it. I guess I'm a visual. I guess I'm a visual person.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

And also, it's right to not believe me and how to pronounce and spell it.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

It's also right to not believe me. Can I tell you? Can I tell you?

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Oh my god, tell me now. This is gonna make me sound like a moron, but it's so funny, I have to say. Alright. So, guys, I can't stop touching the table. You did this, you created this monster. I did. Um, so I'm in rehearsals right now. We're about to go into tech week. Things are crazy. There's a scene in Track the Musical where four of us have to like move these trees all around, and it's very stressful FYI. If you don't know me, I get stressed out moving props. So, especially when they're large and I can't see where I'm going. Well, that is stressful. And there's people dancing around them, and it's a whole thing. Anyway, so we have like this little chart of where we're supposed to move. And our director was telling us, like, okay, well, this is like a square, you're in a line here, and he goes, It's like a parallelogram. So I like write that down really fast. And then I'm like going over my notes later, and I'm like, obviously, I don't know how to spell parallelogram, nor do I know what that is. I said that to my friend Joey, and he was crying. He was laughing so hard. He's like, How did you spell it? I was like, Well, don't worry about it. And I said, Do you know what a parallelogram is? And he's like, Yeah. I said, Go ahead and draw it. And he goes, Hold on. I was like, You can't look it up. Well, he did draw one, and then I felt stupid. Because I was like, oh, I actually do know what a parallelogram is. Do you know what it is? It's just whether the sides opposite each other are equal. Right? Oh, I guess. But I thought it was like a squished rectangle. That's what if you look up parallelogram, that's what it looks like.

SPEAKER_01 44:14

Yeah, I don't know. For some reason in my head, a parallelogram's kind of slanted. Yeah. It's like a squished. Yeah. Well, anyways, everyone. That's really funny. I love that. I love that you were like, well, go ahead and draw one. And he just like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

And I was like, all right, never mind. And I was like, and actually, I do know what that is now. But like, guys, I'd have walk about when do I need to know what a parallelogram is?

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I'm not an engineer. That's one of those moments where like kids say, I'm not gonna need to know this later. That you could have been like, aha. Yes, you do.

SPEAKER_02 44:43

Okay, but like this is the first time in decades I needed to know what a parallelogram was. And by the way, we still messed it up.

Joey Fatone Broadway And Reality TV

SPEAKER_01 44:49

So I'm so excited for the show. I can't wait. I can't wait. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. That's it. That's it. It's gonna be good. Okay, moving on to the middle child of the band. Now we're on the tone.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Okay, you know why I thought he was oldest? It's because he's the tallest, I think.

unknown 45:06

Probably.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

And his hair is gray. His hair is gray now. No, he let his beard become gray forever. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

But he's the tallest of all of them.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Which is dumb because you can be old and short like me.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

You just said your own punchline and thank you for it. Because I was like, uh, you're older than me. Yep. That's definitely. I didn't even think of that. Yeah. You know, Tegan, I took her to urgent care this morning. She's fine. Everything's okay, but we had to stop in for something. She's 5'5. Okay, I'm 5'2. That is crazy. They, I mean, I knew she was like, I I guess I thought she was about 5'2 or 5'3, and then they did her height when she was there, like, oh, 5'5. And I was like, what? She's 11, guys. She's tall. She's 11. Or she's just crowing early. I bet I uh probably tall. At this age, that young? Yeah. She's tall. But anyway, okay, Joey Fatone. He's our first official Xennial. Oh, born January 28th, 1977. He was born in Brooklyn, New York, to Phyllis and Joseph Fatone Sr. And then at the age of 13. Yeah, it still looks good.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

I I'm paranoid. Yeah.

unknown 46:16

No.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

Okay, we're going to go. Looks good. We're still good, guys. She was checking the tech. So he was uh yeah, he was born in Brooklyn, New York, and then he moved to Orlando at age 13. He has two siblings, Steven and Janine. You keep going on the side. I gotta stop. Okay. You're like going around it to look at your notes. I'm like, okay. So before he was famous, so we I said last week he worked at Universal Studios, but this is even more fun. He performed in Beetlejuice's rock and roll graveyard review. Oh my god. Remember that? Well, no, but I've seen video of it. I was not ever at it. Really fun. I feel like because you know, he does do Broadway stuff. He could do Beetlejuice, I bet. Oh, I think he could be a Beetlejuice. He would be so good. For sure. I wonder if that's in the works, because he'd be really good. I hope so. All right, we're putting it out to the universe. And then again, I'm gonna skip over the InSync stuff. Uh, we already kind of talked about, I guess I didn't put it in here again, how he joined InSync, but that's just because he was friends with Chris Kirkpatrick. Right. And Chris knew him from Universal, so that's what brought him into the fold there. And then in 2002, he played Cousin Angelo in My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and he reprised that role in the TV spin-off, My Big Fat Greek Life, and in the 2016 sequel. So three versions of that he was in. That same year, 2002, he made his Broadway debut playing Mark Cohen in Rent. Love. Oh, he was Mark? He was Mark. Yeah. I love that for him. I absolutely love that for him. Uh, and then he was in the movie The Cooler, and then he had smaller roles in an experimental film called Red Riding Hood. And then he returned to I know, I know, I'm telling you. He returned to Broadway in 2004 in a revival of Little Shop of Horrors. And then he was later in the Producers and 42nd Street. And he also did Rock of Ages at Bally's Las Vegas. I love Rock of Ages. So good.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

I gotta get tickets to go see our friends. I'm trying to go on Thursday. I'm going on Thursday. They're Thursday. Next Thursday. Or whatever Thursday. Whatever Thursday it is. Right. You can't go next Thursday. No, it's their third weekend Thursday. Because I can't go any other time.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

No, I think there's like a band banquet or something. There's only day I can go is literally tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Yeah. We were gonna try and go see Spring Awakening, but like we just need a day off. So we're not That's all right. Like so we're gonna go that Thursday.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Okay, perfect. Anyway. Alright, so then he also he's really good at making fun of himself or his fame. Love that. Like he's very just self-depreciating for the sake of a joke. And he played himself in the skit Enter the Fat One in the first season of Robot Chicken, which is really fun. He has an unfortunate last name. He kind of does. I know it's photone, but the way it's spelled.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

I mean, I had a story, two story sisters who were sisters that their last name was Dick.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

That's not fun.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

So unfortunate. Or cox. I mean, yeah. It's not good. Although it'd be worse if it was Wiener.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Well, one of my kids has a teacher whose last name is B-O-N-E-R. Oh my god, that's amazing. Oh. But it's pronounced Bana. What? No, it's not. There's no R. He made that up. He made that up. And I I try I think he is a high school teacher. I was gonna say it's it'd be really bad if he was a middle school teacher. Oh, I know. I think he's a high school teacher.

SPEAKER_02 49:31

Middle school teachers are a special breed of people, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

God bless them. And and with a name like that, if you are a high school and middle school teacher, you just have to kind of roll with it. You don't have to just be laughed at all the time. You're just gonna have to and be okay with it. You have to. And you are who you are. Um, he was on a few other episodes of Robot Chicken, and then he played himself again in the sci-fi film Jersey Shore Shark Attack. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

I used to love watching Jersey Shore back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Yes. T-shirt time. Sorry. That might be one. Well, when did that come out?

SPEAKER_02 50:02

I was like, I was a grown adult. Yeah. Like, I think I had a baby at the time. I don't remember which one it was. Probably Caden. I think. But I think it was still on for Cooper. I don't know. I don't know. Troy and I, that was like one of our guilty pleasures. We would like DVR it or whatever. Yeah. That's a really good show.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

So stupid. He was on the TV series Return of the Mac and the Comedy Central feature Cursed Friends. He's guest starred in the Disney Channel series Hannah Montana. He'd be acting. Imagination Movers and Kim Possible, in addition to various other TV shows and horror films.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

Ooh, Imagination Movers. They're from New Orleans.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Are they? Oh, that's so fun. Yeah, so he was in that Dead Seven movie, the one we're gonna watch. We gotta watch it. And then Incubus from 2011. And then, oh, there was another Big Fat Greek Wedding. Sorry, I have it here. Three. So four times he played his role in Big Fat Greek Wedding in 2023. Angelo. And then he was in Trolls Band together playing the character Ablaze. Cute. And he also voiced a character on Super Kitties. Oh, what is Super Kities? I have no idea. But I think it's animated because he voiced a character. I think it's on Comedy Central. Super kitties, like superhero cats? That is what it sounds like. What if we're totally wrong and it's something totally different?

SPEAKER_00 51:16

It's like some everyone's laughing. They're like, no, that's not what it is.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

I mean, if it's on Comedy Central, it's probably adult in nature, but it's animated.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Well, I'm gonna look it up.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out, guys. Stay tuned. Alright, and then he was on, he got second place on season four of ABC's Dancing with the Stars. So he was one of the earlier seasons. Because, yeah, season four.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

All these boy band people be on be on um Mass Singer and Dancing with Stars.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Yes. Well, here we go. Uh oh. He also was the rabbit in the first season of The Mask.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

Oh, first season.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

The first season. And then he hosted The Singing Bee. He was on Food Networks Rewrapped. And he was on Game Show Network's Common Knowledge. He's the host. I've actually watched that show. It's really fun. It's a trivia show. Oh. And he's the host. And it's usually like three friends who are on it together. That's right. And so you all answer, but then there's like a round where like one person's a spokesperson, you can earn money and fun. Yeah. It's really fun. And he's a he's a good game show host.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

I think I would be a good game show host. I think you would too. You know what? You'd be a good Vanna. I would. Like you'd be like, Do you know what I'm saying? I do. And I just we have their Sinee and again.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

When I was a kid, my parents' proudest moment, by the way, when I was like eight or nine, I told them I wanted to be um a pointer model, like the ones on um The Price is Right. Oh, see? And they just thought that was the funniest thing. I could go be Bob Darker. Still reminds me of that. Remember when he wanted to be a pointer model? Because it was so pretty. And it was like, I could do that. Yeah, I can point. I mean, I'm not sure that it's not hard. I'm not saying they don't work hard. I'm not like invalidating their work. But I was like, I could do that.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Did they work hard? I mean, they work hard to look at.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

They wore beautiful dresses and stood by like cool stuff. Hello? Dream job. Dream job. Somebody does your hair and makeup. Right. Someone makes you look that. I mean, you're probably pretty beautiful to start with. Well, of course. Of course. Someone makes you look your best every time. They're ready to hire us right now. They're like, can we work with this? They're like, no, we can't.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

We don't have the time, guys.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

Um, he also dabbled in the in restaurant industry for a little bit. He had, he called it Fat Ones, Hot Dogs, and Italian Ice. It was at the Florida Mall. Oh, yeah. And never went to it. Really? Yeah. And then it was a food truck, but it hasn't been around since 2017. Oh, bummer. Yeah. I'm sure it's just like so many things he's doing. Like also having a business was a lot. He married Kelly Baldwin in 2004. They had dated in high school. And then they were on and off again during in sync years. And for a while in there in 2000, there was a rumor that Joey and Pink were dating. But they've both said they were never dating, but that they were friends. So they were like seen at restaurants and stuff. Oh, so people always gotta say so. And there was like one time they were seen at like a friendlies. Oh jeez. Yeah, but they've both said no, we were platonic friendship guys. Hello. And I don't know why they would lie about that. So I'm sure they were just friends. And if they were, who cares? Yeah, and they're still friends to this day. And they have two daughters, not nope, not him in pink, Kelly Baldwin and Joey. Have two daughters, Brianna and Chloe. And Lance Bass is their godfather.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

Aw, you know, I saw the nice I'm not gonna tell you because I want you to watch Boy Band Confidential. Him and Lance have a very nice connection from early on, and you'll see why. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

And we'll talk about it. Well, we'll talk about it next episode. So I did find something that said Joey filed for divorce in 2019, but they're not divorced as of today. Okay, well maybe they were happy. So whether they got back together, yeah. They didn't end up getting divorced. I found a sort of controversy about him. When he was touring within sync in 1998, apparently a young woman went to his parents' house, knocked on the door, she had a baby with her, and said it was his kid. So they of course like freak out. She comes in, they call him wherever he is. They let her in. Uh-huh. This is the oldest trick in the book, guys. Yeah. Well, she had a baby, but I mean, but I know. But they were like beside themselves because she was like, Oh, yeah, and it would have she was saying it was like that their first performance, maybe the Pleasure Island one that we already talked about, or something around there. Because the baby was now like a year and a half old or something. Anyway, long story short, he's not the father of this child. She wasn't so she filed for paternity, not because she thought he would be found the father, because she must have known he wasn't. He like swore he didn't know her. She wanted to sell photographs of them like going into the paternity suit or whatever to the paparazzi. Like she knew he wasn't gonna be found the father. Isn't that crazy? And it went on for like a year before they could like get the testing and all the court things done.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

People are wacky sometimes. Wacky. Wacky.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

So was not his child.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

That's the scary side of being famous.

unknown 56:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

This next one, it's not funny. And men out there, I'm so sorry. But he had an incident with his testicles.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

Well on the road. It's a little interesting how it's explained, but essentially Dave Brown was their tour manager, and he got a call from Photone informing him, and this is a quote, there's something wrong with my ball sack. Listen, as a parent of boys, lots can go on down there. And so um actually it says that he talks about it in a boy band competition. Did they get twisted? It didn't say exactly. They said it had something to do with like the dancing and some sort of injury. Yep. And so after like some like ice and rest, and I think even a round of antibiotics, he was fine.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

And sometimes they go doesn't really, but they can like retract, get stuck.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

And there might be more in uh boy band confidential because that's where they talk about it. So we'll probably see it. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot that can go on down there, and apparently they were somewhere very rural at the time. So how uncomfortable. The tour manager said he was thinking to himself, what are you gonna do? Find a veterinarian, like they were worried about me. I love that this came up in your research. I know, and I was like, How is this? I guess maybe because I talk about it in Boy Band Comp, but I'm like, how is this even out there? And I also found like a little bit about how this was an old article. I didn't really put it in here because I'm like, uh, that like he had to like move back in with his parents after in sync and considered filing for bankruptcy. Never did. And like, look, this man has gone on to be successful, like whatever. Who cares? Oh, and he's also publicly revealed that he has had liposuction and uses hair plugs.

unknown 58:00

Work.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

You go, Joey. Do whatever you need to do, sir. Whatever you need to do. If I had money, I'd be having all kinds of stuff. I will say, like, I didn't I never had a crush on Joey, like like I thought he was a good singer and fun, like he was just like the funny one. But now that I'm like a little older, I'm like Joey's really cute. I find him very attractive now. He's alright, and I like the gray and the beard. I don't know. He seems loving he's another one that seems like a nice guy, and maybe that's the attraction now that I'm older because like I prioritize maybe those things. Sure. Not that he's bad, he's good looking too, of course, but I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

Yeah, he seems like like a down-to-earth person. Lance does too.

Lance Bass Space Dreams And Training

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Yeah, he does. He does. Well, let's talk about Lance. Let's talk about Lance. May 4th, 1979. We are birthday twins. That's great.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Off by a couple years. He likes Star Wars, I bet though. Oh, yeah. He does like Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

He makes the best reels. I sent you the one of him. Oh, yeah. Him and his husband do. Yeah. So we'll have to keep an eye on that for Star Wars Day. And his birthday, I bet they'll come out with something good. Okay. He probably has in past years too, but so his full name is actually James Lance Bass. So his name is James. And he was born in Laurel, Mississippi. I know where that is. You do? Yeah. James Irvin, a medical technologist, and Diane, a middle school mathematics, English, and career discovery teacher.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

Bless her.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

God bless. Middle school math. Oh. Maybe that's why he went by Lance, because his dad's also named James.

SPEAKER_02 59:26

It that is a southern thing. Everybody in my dad's family that is a male, except for my Uncle Wayne, I think. But most of the men go by their middle name or a nickname for their middle name, which is That's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

I love that though. It is a Southern thing. I don't know. I love that. He has one older sister, Stacy, and he was raised Southern Baptist. He has described his family as devoutly Christian and conservative, but he has said that his childhood was extremely happy.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Yeah, I feel for him because he talks about that. Well, he's been pretty open about like having to hide his he like he said he knew from a young age, you know, his sexuality, and he had to hide it mostly because of the people he was surrounded by.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

And I'm sure it didn't help being in a boy band being an international star at that time.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

Well, and they told him they he talks about that in the documentary. Like they told us, like, you can't say if you're gay, you can't say if you're dating someone, you have because that's part of your whole That's part of the mass appeal, or at least what they were told.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

Sucks. Sucks. It does suck. So I found a lot of stuff about him being interested in space. This is so fun. This is so interesting to me. So he has always been super interested in space travel. And when he was nine, he traveled to Cape Canaveral. He went to space camp. And he did go to space camp. Well, he what he went with his dad to Cape Canaveral and watched a space shuttle launch, which is super fun. And then he after that went to space camp in Titusville. And then he aspired to attend college and study engineering, and he wanted to work at NASA. This is pre-in-sync, of course. As far as performing, and I'll have a little more on space in in a bit. He began singing in his Baptist Church choir, obviously, around age 11. And then he was encouraged to audition for local performance groups. And he joined the Mississippi Showstoppers. This is fun. A statewide music group sponsored by the Mississippi Agriculture and Forestry Museum. How fun is this? What is that combo? Let's sponsor a show choir.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:32

What are they singing about? Crops? Maybe. Gel pants and corn. You know, actually, I don't think they grow corn in the South.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

No, I don't think they do. That's a Midwest thing. Right. Got it. I don't know what they he also joined the attache show choir. Attache. Isn't that like a suitcase? A boothcase. It is. But they traveled a lot. So maybe that's why. You gotta bring your attache. Chorus show choir group that competed all over. Oh my god. So that's probably why.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:04

My my show choir did not compete. Mine either. Yeah, we just had it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Isn't that funny? Like, because we you know all these TV shows like Glee and then like Pitch Perfect and stuff. There are all these like competition. And apparently Lance Bass, Attache group. We did not do competition.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

We didn't either. I would have. That sounds fun. I know. I would have done it. But he was also a member, this is fun, of a seven-man vocal group named Seven Card Stud. I love that. I love it. Which competed at state fairs. Oh, I love. And performed at several social and political events. Go. I think that's so fun. Seven man, what does I call it? Seven card stud. How do you think they split the seven parts up? I was just wondering that probably just one bass and maybe double on everything else. Because you don't really need more than one that low. That would be my guess. At Clinton High School, he was elected vice president of his junior class, but this was the same year his voice teacher, who also knew Justin Timberlake and JC, recommended Lance for InSync. And they called him and brought him down when Jason left the group, that whole thing. Jan Bowles, president of BMG's German division. I left out the other part of that name. Ariel. You may notice. So he offered InSync a recording contract under the condition that they replace Lance because his dancing was so bad. Aw. But the other guys were like, no. But they fixed it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

They're like, he'll learn, he'll be fine. They do put him in the back a lot, though, guys. They do be putting him in the back. Listen, Lance, I feel your pain. Also, I'm in the back a lot, and I sing low parts.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

The thing is, he's probably an okay dancer. Just next to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Listen, I think I'm an okay dancer, but you put me next to professionals who are 20 years younger than me. I can't hold a candle.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:51

And if he wasn't on the Mickey Mouse Club and all these things or performing at Universal Studios, he was 16 when they called them. Right. So I'm sure over the years his dancing probably got a little closer to like where everybody else was. But they refused to sign with Outlands, so he stayed. Yeah. Which I think is really cute. He actually formed his own music management company in 2000, which was a joint venture with Mercury Nashville, and he vowed to keep the company a strictly family-run operation. And he stuck to his guns. He employed his parents and his sister as talent scouts. He recruited a childhood friend, also inspiring country singer named Meredith Edwards for the company's first release, but her release didn't do so well, and the company went under. But he was also like 2000 in the middle of everything. So I'm sure there were a lot of reasons. It was just like maybe not right now. Maybe now's not the time that I'm doing this as well. But I thought that was really cute that it did it. Okay, so the space connection is back in 2002. So this was when InSync went on hiatus. He underwent training in Star City, Russia. I vaguely remember this. And became a certified cosmonaut.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

I remember them making fun of it on Star Night Live a lot. That's why I remember it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

I'm not kidding. It's not funny. How the satires, the stuff we remember. He was certified by the Russian space program and by NASA for a mission on the Suzu TMA 1 spacecraft to the International Space Station. But financial backing for the mission fell through. He didn't get to go. That's wild. But he retains fluency in Russian, which he learned during his training. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

That's hard. He must be hella smart. He must be so smart. If he has the brains to be a trained astronaut and learn Russian and become a professional dancer within sync.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

Okay, that's so many different things. You gotta have some brain power. So many parts of your brain working on them. My brain hasn't exploded just thinking about it. And he's still a huge space fan. He's a national youth spokesperson for World Space Week. He spends a lot of time speaking with students about space exploration and why science and math are critical keys to our futures.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Boo. No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

They are.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

I just I'm bad at them. I was like, uh I just went 'cause I'm bad at it. Oh. You're not bad at it. No, I am. It's okay. It's okay. Do you know my dad spoke Russian? My dad spoke Russian, Spanish. Um, my sister was trying to say he spoke like multiple languages. I never knew this. You didn't? No. Because he didn't speak them to us. Who did he speak to? Oh, I well, I mean, he worked for NASA. So just didn't people at work? No, I I heard him speak Spanish fluently. We found like video a few years back. And he went on, he learned it because he was going to do a mission trip. So he learned Spanish to and he was fluent. The funny thing is though, he spoke Spanish with a North Carolina accent. That's funny. But he was having this whole conversation on this video. And I was like, I said, Sarah, dad spoke Spanish. She's like, oh yeah, he spoke a few languages. He spoke Spanish, Russian, and I was like, he spoke Russian. That would be hard. That I feel like is that. I want to say German was another match. My dad was hella smart. Like, yeah. I mean, off the charts.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

He was the Lance Bass of his time.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

He was. He was like, had like a mensa level IQ. Like he was that intelligent, which comes with its own challenges.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:07

Yes. It can. And it did. It can. And it did.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

I got none of the math and science. My sister got all of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:14

You got all the creative stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

I did. Well, he was super like extroverted, like high energy. There we go. I got that and I looked just like him. My sister looks like my mom, but got all his. I swear to God, got like they probably, my mom was really good at math and science too. They were probably like, what is this child? I would cry over math. I hated science projects.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

Yum was in the medical field.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

Yeah. Oh. I and I would cry over math homework. I had a math tutor, science fair experiments. I remember science fair stuff. My dad would get so pumped. And I would be like, oh, I don't want to do this. Because he always wanted me to do something like elaborate. And I'm like, can I just do something easy? Yeah, just put some little pictures of some seeds in a thing and be done. He'd be like, we're gonna get test tubes. And I'd be like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

I've heard the phrase that you get the children that you need. Right? And I think that's true. If you have more than one, eventually that will prove itself true, I feel like. Because you could get the one that's just like you and everything's fine, maybe, but eventually you're gonna get the one that like challenges you, or you're like, why are you like this? No one else in our family is like this. Although my challenge is the child who is like me. Well, that's actually a good point. And in my house right now, I mean, I guess all my girls are a little like me, but the one that's like really like me is my middle schooler right now. And she's also a middle schooler, so that's a challenge. But we're getting there.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

So we'll survive everyone. I mean, my middle schooler is well, I say that in a way, like Troy sometimes has to be like, he's like, Danny, you have to just stop talking because y'all do the same, like y'all are y'all argue the same way, you handle things the same way. Yeah, like and him and Caden do the same thing because they're just like chill, chill, chill, chill, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

Yeah, must be nice, must be born chill. Must be. We don't know anything about that. No. Alright, so where are we at? Bass was also a popular like TV guest. He sure was. He was on the WB drama. I mean, he was so cute. He is so cute. He's got that blonde hair, those blue eyes, and that little bit of like southern accent in there. Good smile. Good smile. So he was on the WB drama series Seventh Heaven for several episodes. He was Rick Palmer, a love interest of Beverly Mitchell's character. I was gonna say he was like a boyfriend or something. Yeah, he was a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:36

Wasn't he in a movie with somebody?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:38

Yes. I'm sure I have that in here. He was in um, let me see. I'll get to it. Let's see. So he rece Yeah, there we go. He received his first starring role in the 2001 motion picture on the line. Do you remember that one? He played Kevin, a man who falls in love with a woman on a Chicago train and begins a search to find her again. There were so many movies like that. Well, apparently he put a ton into this, and this was also the one that Joey Fatone was in. And this is what I referenced last time when Justin was Timberlake was saying, Oh, well, they are breaking away from the band to do this movie. But I guess it didn't do very well, but it is actually a good movie. Like the critics like the movie. Oh, but it didn't do very well. Which is odd, because if you have two people from InSync in it at that time, it's all timing. It's all timing, it's all timing. Uh, and it was produced by his production company, A Happy Place, which was later renamed Bacon and Eggs. Oh my god, stop. Which I love. And the film had other people in it too. Jerry Stiller, Al Green, Bon Jovi guitarist Richie Sambora, former WWE wrestler China, and bandmates Kirkpatrick and Fatone.

unknown 1:10:45

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

And Fatone had like a big role in it, I guess. Okay. It also featured a soundtrack which included previously unreleased songs by InSync and Britney Spears.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:55

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

Have you seen this? I have not seen it, but now I feel like just for the sake of all those people I just mentioned, I want to see it. You know, I feel like we always say we need to watch that, and then we don't write it down and we don't watch it. I want to write this one down, though. I really do want to see this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

Dead Seven, that needs to be on our list.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

That one has to be. We've said that movie how many times in the past couple weeks?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:16

This is when it'd be nice to have a producer because like on the podcast, listen to handsome. Boom, boom, boom. They're always like, Thomas, they're producer like, put it on the list. Like every time they say something, they're like, Oh, we should go do an escape room together. And they're like, Thomas, put it on the list.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

Well, Sarah, if you're listening, text us right now. Text us right now so we are somewhere that we can write it down.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

Also, now that we have a table, we could have a pen and a piece of paper. Well, we do have phones and stuff around here, but we just I I write down stuff sometimes, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

So anyway, he collaborated with Joey Fatone, Mandy Moore, Christian Burns, and True Vibe for the film's theme song on the line. Which I don't remember at all. Well, yeah, girl? No. So this is part of the reason it wasn't successful is it came out one week after the World Trade Center attacks. Oh, so there's that. Oh, yeah. I mean, it may not have done as well anyway, but in his 2007 autobiography, he wrote, That was it. Our film was finished. Once the country went to war, there's no way our film was going to be on anyone's top priority list, which obviously he doesn't like blame anyone for, but yeah. So the timing of that was not great. He appeared in Zoolander and West Craven's Cursed as himself. He played a wedding singer in I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry. Do you remember that? Yes. Oh, that was such a good movie. Stupid movie. He's also been on several animated shows: Robot Chicken, Disney's Kim Possible, Handymanny. Oh my god, Caden loved Handy Manny. Such a good show. I like that one too. Higgly Town Heroes. Oh my god, Caden loved that one too. So he's probably heard Lance's voice. He was in the 2008 film Tropic Thunder. He was a guest star on Gravity Falls. Uh yeah, so all sorts of things here. And he also voiced a video game uh character, Cephathross, in Kingdom Hearts, which is Final Fantasy VIIs. Yeah, Kingdom Hearts is a Kingdom Hearts. Yeah, so he's in that video game. That's fun. Yeah, and then he's also been on Broadway in 2007. He for six months he was played Corney Collins in Broadway's Hairspray.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

I totally see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

As soon as I wrote that down, I was like, yes. He'd be a great Corney Collins. And then he was on season seven of Dancing with the Stars and plays third in 2015. He joined the Meredith Vieira show. He was a full-time contributing panelist. Him and his mom competed in 2017 on Fox's reality cooking series, My Kitchen Rules.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:41

They were the runners up. Never heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

Me either, but that's cute. I was that they did that. He in 2021 became a panelist for the new TV series Unicorn Hunters, which is a business investment show, so kind of like Shark Tank. I was like, we're going to find unicorns. That'd be really fun. Um, but it sounds exactly like Shark Tank. Like they evaluate what people bring in and place bids on it. Um he actually hosted an evening drive time radio show focusing on pop culture and entertainment news that was on Out Q, which is LGBTQ gear station on Sirius XM. Yep, yep. He's also the host of the weekly Pop 2K countdown on Pop 2K. And I've listened to that one. That one's fun. And then his own podcast, Frosted Tips, debuted in 2023. I love the name of it. It's so good. I love it. It's such a moment in time. I know. I know. Like it really is. And his first guest was JC Shovin. Aww, love that. But he hasn't had anything new, as I mentioned, since December of 2024. But that just means he's not recording new ones, but the old ones are there. I need to look at them. They're probably really good. He also, back to his space obsession, released an eight-episode podcast in 2023 called The Last Soviet, which was sort of a mini-series, an audio mini-series, describing the story of Sergey Kirilev's time on the Mir space station during the collapse of the Soviet Union, as well as his own experience training at Star City. I like the name of that, The Last Soviet, because like you're in space and it falls apart. That's crazy. That would be so unsettling.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

I, you know, I I don't I have like feelings about space explorers exploration, just like deep sea exploration. I feel like maybe we're just not supposed to do that. Yeah. And then it's like people are always like, yeah, but what if you know we can find life on other planets or find other places to live? And it's like, but maybe we're not supposed to do that. Maybe we should tend to the planet we got, first of all, everyone. Yeah. And then also, if there's life out there, maybe we should leave them alone. Yeah, and they should leave us alone, maybe. Just thinking.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

Yeah, just saying. Yeah. I have mixed feelings about it all. I get the fascination. I mean, I'm fascinated with it. I get it, but I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:58

I yeah, I I have no desire to go into space or deep sea. I will not make you. I just and I don't I like don't get excited about rocket launches and all that. It's so much money and so much resources. And I'm like, but why are we doing this? I anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:14

When we don't have unpopular opinion. To your point, we don't have enough money for the things here that supposedly like we're burning up the environment.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

We're not taking care of each other, we have shitty health care. I mean, it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:25

I know. When you when you look at it in perspective, it's kind of like maybe like they say, like, take care of your own home first.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:31

So saying, like, we want to go take pictures of the backside of the mood. Why?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Science.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:37

But but why we need that? I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:39

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

I'm sorry, y'all. Everybody out there, especially on the Space Coast, is like hating me now, and they're like, I hate this. But don't worry, Katie's on your side.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

I would say, and I don't think your one opinion is going to um undermine their whole way of living. The space industry as a whole. Don't worry. Don't worry, guys. Just because Danny said that you're not all going to suddenly, the industry is not going to collapse. You versus you versus Elon.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

I think Elon wins. Always. Always. I mean, I listen, and what kind of car do I have, everybody? A Tesla. Thank you very much. She does. I am a walking hip hi hypocrite. Also, I can't get rid of it because when we bought it. Also. And now it's like, whatever. You're stuck with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

It's a cute car though. America. It's fun to drive.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:22

I've saved a lot of money. Electric. Cars are really good for the environment.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:26

There you go. All right. So I didn't know this. Lance is a type one diabetic.

unknown 1:17:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:31

And so he donates a lot of his time and money to awareness and research and that sort of thing. So a little bit more than on his like coming out as gay, right? Because it's kind of integral to who he is as a public figure. Um not that like we personally care too much about any of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:51

Yeah, but he's helped a lot of younger performers in their journey.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:56

So he had dated some kind of high-profile women when he was in InSync. One was Danielle Fischel from Boy Meets World. They have that prom picture together. They just recreated it not too long ago. It's just so cute. So cute. And she said like she was so in love with him.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:10

Oh like head over heels.

Lance Comes Out And Builds A Family

SPEAKER_01 1:18:12

I know. And I mean, obviously they're still friends today. Bygones are bygones and all those things. But he did come out as gay officially in a cover story. Do you remember this for People Magazine on July 26, 20, 2006? And there had this was following a lot of ramping up media speculation. Um, pictures of him at gay nightclubs, pictures of him with like this one specific guy doing, like, you know, running errands, eating breakfast together, whatever the paparazzi was doing. And then celebrity gossip blogger Perez Hilton had been posting items about it since 2005, so about a year before. And then page six, remember that? It's a publication. It's a publication. They ran a blurb about two weeks before that people story came out of a sighting of Bass at a gay bar with this guy that they were saying was his boyfriend. It was his boyfriend. And then um Ken Sunshine, who's his public, which is a fun name. I can't I wonder if that's his real name, was his um publicist, went to People magazine and said, Look, like he wants to tell his story. And actually, Johnny Depp was supposed to be on the cover and they bumped him. Well, valid. Which, you know, is good. Don't worry, Johnny Depp's just fine. Yeah, I think he survived. I think he made bumped once. He probably just got bumped to the next one. Right. He was fine. Uh so in that interview, Bass said, the thing is, I'm not ashamed. That's the one thing I want to say. I don't think it's wrong. I'm not devastated going through this. I'm more liberated and happy than I've been my whole life. I'm just happy. Here's the thing, and we've talked about this multiple times.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:50

I I hate that people even have to quote unquote come out.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:54

Like, just let people live. And especially for a lot of people, there is no one or the other. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. Like, we have the we for the longest, it was like, okay, you're either. Well, first of all, it was expected that everybody was supposed to be straight. Okay. And then it was this whole like, what do you call it, with just you're either straight or gay. That's it. Binary. But that's the word. Why did it leave me? Binary. And it's just, you know, like it's just unfortunate. My sister and I talk about this very frequently about how why can't why do you just let people live their life? Because you don't see celebr other celebrities on cover saying, hey, guess what, guys? I'm straight. Right. Like he's not, if he wasn't gay and he was like, guess what, I like women, that would not be a cover story. Like, why does it have to be Johnny Dupp isn't getting bumped for that? No. Like, why does it have to be such a sensational thing? It should just be a normal, like, let people live. And although on the other hand, I understand because we live in the society we live in, right? Why celebrities feel like and something like that does give a voice to other people. That's what I'm saying. Like, I do understand why celebrities are like, especially in that time that he was coming of age and was told, don't say who you are, be quiet about it, like and the environment he was brought up in. So I mean, I just I wish I understand why it's like that, but I wish that it wasn't. I wish people could just be, and you know, I I feel for like people from our generation and before, because I feel like now kids have I mean they're they still go through plenty of hard things, but they have language now that we did not have. Like it existed, everything has existed since we were beginning of humankind, but we didn't have the language to say, I am, I I am queer, I am bisexual, I am pansexual, I am trans. Like we didn't know those words, so it was a lot lonier time, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

Definitely, you know what I'm saying? Definitely, so yeah, like well, it's interesting you say that. Oh, because he actually got some backlash from the LGBTQI plus community from this interview, specifically about a quote that he he made. Um, in in it, he said he referred to himself and his friends as straight acting. And in the interview, he said, I call them the SAGs, the straight acting gays. We're just normal, typical guys. I love to watch football and drink beer.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Got it. So that's like a whole gender thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

That's like a whole giving into stereotypes and implying if you're not like that, you're not normal. Like just it's very loaded. Although I'm sure his obviously his intention wasn't that. Of course. Um, but it angered some people. And in a 2007 interview with the advocate, he did call his comment a mistake and said, Every community is hard to please. This is funny. Our community is very fickle, it's a touchy community because it's the last civil rights movement we have left here in America. So when someone new, like myself, comes along and says off the mark things, yeah, I can see how people would get pissed. So essentially, he's like, I get why what I said upset people, and I was still learning.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:22

Well, and I mean, I think it's important to understand that even if I mean you're a product of society and the the yucky parts of society and even unconsciously like absorb into you, and it's an undoing that you have to constantly be undoing, and then like I know I've said current things that I have to go back and be like, oh man, that was yikes.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

We have on podcasting. We said a whole apology about something, I don't even remember what it was. We sure did. Oh, I think we just said in general, as we've listened back, sometimes we notice the way we talk about things are not correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:01

Oh yeah. And I mean, there's probably stuff we didn't even pick up on. That's a problem. Oh, I'm sure. And we're always open to hear feedback too from that. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:10

So there was that. Um so then additionally, later in 2006, he got awarded the 2006 Human Rights Campaign Visibility Award. But like a bunch of people were like, but why? He hasn't even like done anything other than like being like, I'm gay. So the human rights campaign, and so then people said that the human rights campaign was just trying to get like publicity or whatever for naming him. But they defended their choice and they said, quote, Bass is the biggest music star since Melissa Etheridge to come out, and maybe some people think HRC should just ignore these moments of cultural significance, but his declaration did initiate a positive national conversation that continues today. So there you go. I mean, yeah. I mean, I get it. If you're out there fighting for rights for like years and years and years, and then this, you know, boy band guy is on the cover of people and suddenly he wins like this award. I get it. It's also not his fault that he won the award, you know what I mean? So it's and it does bring more attention to the fact that he did that, which is helpful. So I but I get it. Um he then he released his autobiography in 20 or 2007 entitled Out of Sync. I guess I didn't realize that's what it was called, but that is what it's called. And it describes what he called the first chapter of his life, which was growing up, the space stuff, yeah, in sync, all the way up to basically coming out publicly.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:37

Yeah, I do believe oh, that's the first chapter. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I I call my life eras. I like that because there have been so many.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:48

Yeah. I would I think it'd be fun. Not right now, we don't have time. To maybe for my birthday, that'll be the journaline I do. Write out my different eras. Love that. I'm gonna do it. And it his book was a bestseller for like several weeks.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

I swear I think I read it. I'm sure you do back in the day, but it's been a long time.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

Yeah, and a lot's happened in his life since almost 20 years have passed. So he is married now. He's married to actor Michael Turkin. They got married, um oh, they got engaged in 2013, got married in 2014 at the Park Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles. All of the InSync bandmates were there except for Justin Timberlake, and that's only because he was on his 2020 world tour, uh, 2020 experience world tour, is what it was called. It was filmed and televised in an e presentation, Lance Loves Michael. Oh my god, funny. That's so cute. And it aired in 2015. They were the first same-sex couple to exchange vows on cable television. Aww. I know, that's fun. They decided to extend their family, and in March 2020, they announced that they had lost a baby via surrogate who had a miscarriage at eight weeks. It was the couple's ninth surrogacy attempt. Aww. I know. For everyone involved, that's yeah, awful. But by June 2021, they announced they were expecting twins, and their son and daughter were born in mid-October. So they had they have twins. Yeah, they have twins. And that's it. And they, like I said, they do it's just on Lance's public-facing social media, just with his name on it. They do a lot of like fun reels.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:22

I know, I've seen those.

Justin Timberlake Solo Rise And SNL

SPEAKER_01 1:27:24

Yeah, they're really cute. And sometimes they involve they they involve the kids but don't show the kids, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Like they'll be like, when when your husband takes the twins out for a while and then he's like dancing around to you know, backstreet boys in his cleaning house or something. They're really cute. So we'll see if he has a good one for his birthday. I know. That is it for him, and who that brings us to J Tim, the baby of the group, 90 minutes in. 90 minutes in. We got this. Oh, there's so much on him, guys. I cannot talk about everything about him. No, I cannot, I can't even like get in depth about his solo albums, nothing. No, we won't. But we're I tried to pick out the stuff. That's e that's either super integral to who he is and who he is now, or like things I had not heard before. Okay. That's kind of what I tried to highlight. So he was born on January 31st, 1981. Justin Randall Timberlake. He was born in Memphis. He's a son of Janet Lynn Harless. That's weird because she goes by her middle name. She goes by Lynn. And Charles Randall Timberlake, who was a Baptist church choir director. He has two half-brothers, Jonathan and Stephen, from his dad's second marriage. So his parents got divorced. And then his half-sister Laura Catherine died shortly after birth in 1997. And she is mentioned in his acknowledgments on the album In Sync as my angel in heaven. I know. That's so sad. So I didn't know that. There you go. Included that. Okay. He says his grandfather influenced a lot of his music learning and taste. So his grandfather was big into country music, loved Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, and Timberlake sang country and gospel music starting around the age of 11. He appeared on the television show Star Search. Right. And he performed country songs, and his stage name was Justin Randall. That's hilarious. Which is really cute. That's actually a good country name. Oh no. And then he had also started just on his own listening to RB music from the 60s and 70s. And he really liked Al Green, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye. And then him and his dad, he said, would sit and have listening sessions listening to albums by the Eagles and Bob Seeger. So when you think about who he is as an artist and how he kind of pushes the boundaries of music and all the different genres he's worked in and produced, it makes sense that he had like a pretty good array of music in his foundational years. And then from 93 to 95, he was a mousketeer in the all new Mickey Mouse Club, where he was castmates again. I mentioned some of these people before. Future girlfriend, Britney Spears, future tour mate, Christina Aguilera, future bandmate, JC Chazet. So many. Future actors, Ryan Gosling, and Carrie Russell. I mean, they were actors on the show, but superstar actors. How about that? And then in 95, he was asked to join InSync once he was on a Mickey Mouse Club work. All right, so InSync happened. Let's pretend InSync has happened. It's 2002. When the group went on Indefinite Hiatus, uh, members started individual projects. He partnered with Pharrell Williams of the producing team, The Neptunes, and Timbaland to start working on new music. So this was something I didn't know either. Tell me if you knew this. I did. Okay. So he was encouraged to really go for a solo career after a conversation with Michael Jackson. Yeah, I don't know why I knew that. Yeah. So he had written that song that I tried to sing, Gone. I just did, baby girl, you're gone. Yeah. Yeah. So he wrote that for Michael Jackson, apparently. But then Michael Jackson passed on it. So InSync recorded it. Well, then Michael Jackson came back and was like, actually, I want to record it with you. And he was like, Well, we're like, we already recorded that MJ. But he like offered to like do like a remix of it with InSync and him. And I guess Michael Jackson was like, no, I just want to sing with you. Yeah. And so that was kind of like, and they had like a long conversation. And by the end of that conversation, Justin Timberlake said it was the first time he ever felt like, I can do this. I can like go on my own. I'm good enough to like do it by myself. I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And gosh darn it, people like me. Gosh darn it, people sure do like him. Um, and he the everything I just described was in this quote here, but I just basically said all of it. So I'm not gonna read the quote. He's like, we have so much. We have so much. We're not gonna repeat what I have already said. So in August 2002, he performed at the 2002 MTV Video Music Awards, and that's where he premiered kind of his solo career. Right. And he sang, like, I love you. Remember that song? Ain't nobody love you that could love you. You're a good girl, and that's what they're doing suggests. Yeah, that one. Do you know that only peaked at number 11?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:02

I mean, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:03

I don't know why. I thought that was it was number two in the UK, but only 11 here. But then his debut solo album, Justified, released in November, and that had two on the Billboard 200 in the first week. Um, Cry Me a River and Rock Your Body. Cry Me a River.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:23

What the fuck was that? You guys know what I'm talking about, right? That's how it goes. There's a sound effect.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:39

I guess of all the things for me to sing from that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:45

You know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:47

You're gonna you're never gonna unhear it. I know. You're never gonna unhear it.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:51

I literally don't know what you're talking about. Do it again. Do it in the singing sing.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:00

It's not a singer, it's a bird. Oh god. There's not a bird in that song. I promise you. It might not be a bird, but it sounds like a bird.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:09

We're gonna look it up at the end of that button. Don't worry, guys. We're not gonna do it right now because we're we have a lot of.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:13

We gotta keep going. But yeah, Crime Your River and Rock Your Body did actually better than like I love you. Now, they were saying in the first week he only sold 439,000 copies. That's it. So they're saying few, much fewer than in sync, but like that's still pretty good. And in the end, the album at least went gold. Oh, 10 million copies, yeah. So it went gold. Um, that wasn't the one with sexy back. That was the next album. That one's the next one. That one's the next one, yeah. So then near the end of 2002, like Timberlake's kind of known as a jokester in a lot of different circles, so he was actually the first person ever punked on Ash JPT's show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he actually cried, started to cry when he was being punked, and then later admitted that he was high. Oh shit. Yeah. So it like made him even more feel the feeling. Oh embarrassing. But then he agreed to help with the show, so he later went on to punk other celebrities. One of them was Kelly Osborne. I love that he cried. I would do that. I would. And then he later spoofed Ashton Kucher and punked in a 2003 episode of Saturday Night Live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's been on Saturday Night Live six times, maybe five or six times. He's so funny. Soup.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:29

There it is. Soup.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:31

Get the little outfit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:33

But it's soup for the soup kitchen. Have you bring it on down to homeless view?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:38

Well, you know, we're gonna get to the most famous one, so don't say if you think of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:41

Oh God. I told Troy I wanted to dress up like that for a Halloween party. That would be really cool. I think we're doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:47

Are you really? It'd be so fun. For Ben's Halloween party. You have to. Um, but then him and Jimmy Fallon also became really good friends during that time frame because Jimmy Fallon was on in the cast of Vestal, and that's where they met. And they dressed up as the Bee Gees. Have you ever seen any of those? Oh my God. He's really good. He's really good. And they've like been good friends like ever since. They continue. Like if he goes on his show now, they always do a skid or something silly. Um, okay, so yes, so he did that. And we'll get well, we'll just talk about the most famous one. I have it somewhere else in here. The dick in a box. Is that what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:20

That Katie just said that so matter of fact. Dick in a box. It's my dick in a box. Oh my god. And they're dressed like Color Me Bad. So funny. It's the funniest. And Maya Rudolf's in the video too. She's like one of the girls. Yeah. I remember that that came out. I think I had just had Caden. I think because I remember like Tori and I watching that, and we were crying laughing, and my parents were visiting, and Caden, yeah, was like a newborn. And my they did not think it was funny. Like, and they're not, not because they're approvers. They're like, that just looks stupid. We were crying laughing. It's so crying.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:55

So funny. If y'all don't know what that is, go look it up. If you're crying, there might be people who are too young to know that one. So dick in a box, seven a box.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:03

It's exactly what you think. Sort of.

Nipplegate Fallout And Double Standards

SPEAKER_01 1:36:06

They said like it's the most shared or viral of all seasonal skits ever, because not just from the time, it continues to be shared. And I feel like there's something to that seasonal stuff too. Yeah, I know. Like David S. Pumpkins with Tom Hanks, which have you ever you said you didn't know? I did. Okay. That gets reshared every Halloween because, and people are like, what is this? This is really funny. So anyway, that was a good one. So in the summer of 2003, him and Christina Aguilera co-headlined the Justified and Stripped tour. Right. And then he released the single I'm lovin' it, used by McDonald's as the theme to its I'm loving it campaign. Ba da ba ba ba. I'm loving it. Is that what the song is? That's part of it, I guess. No. I don't think so. I think it's a different. We just made that up. But he did write that jingle. Oh, he did. We covered that in our jingle song. Oh, we did write your job. Yeah, that it was actually written by him. Um, but he teamed with McDonald's on this tour and earned an estimated six million more. Yeah, and they sponsored his tour. And then he was also featured on Nellie's song Work It, which was remixed and included on Nelly's 2003 remix album. So that's all Work It. I don't think I know that one. I am I'm thinking of Missy Elliot's Elliott's, and that's not it. I don't know. All right, well, so now we gotta get to February 2004. This was a mess. We have arrived at Nipplegate. This was a mess. So, very brief summary in case you forgot or you're young or you you've heard of it, but don't exactly know what happened. During the Super Bowl halftime show uh in February 2020, uh nope, 2004, it was broadcast live on CBS from Houston, Timberlake perform with Janet Jackson uh in front of a TV audience of over 140 million people. And at the end of the performance, he tore off part of Jackson's black leather costume in a costume reveal that was meant to accompany like part of the lyrics, it made sense. It was supposed to pull away part of her boustier to reveal a red lace bra, but part of the costume detached and her breast was briefly exposed. That's not what I remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:14

I remember it being like she had on like a like a sparkly uh pasty. I think she did, and it looked intentional, yeah, but it wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:23

I guess I never found out the real story. I don't know that anyone knows for sure. So of course they all said, oh my god, it was an accident at first, but then one of the stylists allegedly said that the original plan was for Timberlake to step on the back of her dress to reveal her butt in a G string, but he they changed the plan and decided they were going to reveal her breast because they wanted to do a one-up on Britney Spears and Madonna's Kiss from the MTV Video Music Awards. This is from Did you rewatch?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:00

Did you rewatch this one? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:02

Yeah. It does have a little pasty. It does. And Janet looks surprised. Yeah. Unless the plan she wasn't included in the plan.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:11

But she put on a sparkly pasty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:16

I don't know. The whole thing's weird. I don't know about it. If you were alive during this time enough to cognizant remember this, this was a way bigger deal than it needed to be. It was.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:26

Well, here's the thing. It it should be a big deal if he did that on purpose and Janet was like, what the fuck? Right. That should be a big deal. You know what I'm saying? Right. If you're exposing her body and she didn't know it was gonna be exposed, that was one of the issues. It was. The other issue was uh that it was planned, but the TV station didn't know that they were gonna be doing it. Right. And then like they didn't talk about it directly.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:58

No, they didn't. I felt like there was way a lot of narratives, if I remember during this time, and hypotheticals, and like she didn't know, or it was just a mistake, or the station did know about it, but now they're saying they didn't because people are mad, and and and like you said, she looks surprised. She really does, she really does, but that could be acting. I know, like you're acting, like, and I don't even mean like I mean like as part of the show, like oh, this part where he pulls this, you're gonna look surprised and then you're gonna keep going. So was she actually surprised or was she acting surprised as part of the act? That's what we don't know. So you couldn't find any confirmation? No, he has since um apologized way later. Um, at the time, he apologized by saying, sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe oh the wardrobe malfunction became and he he started that word because it's in his quote. Yeah, that phrase rather. Um is it like a whole thing now? It wasn't people use it. I'm just confused because it didn't look like a malfunction, it looked intentional. Right. Yeah. He said that sorry anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl. Um, they were threatened him and um Jana Jackson with exclusion from the 2004 Grammy Awards unless they agreed to apologize on screen at the event.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:15

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:16

He attended and issued a scripted apology when accepting the first of two Grammy Awards he received Best Pop Vocal album for Justified, Best Male Pop Vocal Performance for Crimea River. So I just put a pause here. Like, talk about the cur career trajectory, though. And this is what sucks about patriarchy. He continued to rise, rise, rise, rise, rise from there, and it's almost like Janet Jackson was never really forgiven for that. Yeah, it's really fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:46

And also, we have to pull in the the race dynamic here. It's a white man and a black female, right? And I mean, I think that history can speak for itself, and that black females have been the ones mistreated the most in this country, being dehumanized and objectified by white males. Yeah. And I I mean, that that's a deep-rooted thing, right? So that you have like that totally matters in this power dynamic and exactly what happened. Like he was just fine. In fact, the notoriety helped him, I would say. I think so. And it just tarnished her.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:29

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:31

Not fair. It's not fair, it's not fair. Whether it was intentional or not intentional. And he talked about it.

Acting Roles Voice Surgery And Albums

SPEAKER_01 1:42:36

I have another quote from him a little bit later that we'll get to because it has to do with um Britney Spears, too. Oh. But um, we'll get to that. So around this time, then after Justified's out, he starts doing a little bit more in film. Okay. And starts looking into acting a little more. He was in the movie Edison Force, uh, that was filmed in 2004, but it was released direct to video. I feel like I've heard of that one, but I guess they never did it in theaters. He also appeared in the film Alpha Dog. I remember that. That one was good with Bruce Willis, Black Stake Moan. He played like a drug dealer with Samuel L. Jackson, and then Richard Kelly's Southland Tales in 2006. And then he also voiced Prince Artie Pendragon in Shrek the Third. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he was actually considered to play the role of Roger Davis in the film version of Rent. But Chris Columbus, I don't know, you've seen it. Yeah, he used as many of the original performers as he could. Good choice. Which is a good choice. Dustin would have been fine if you were recasting the whole thing. But yeah. I think one of the only ones they replaced in that movie was Mimi because she wasn't able to or didn't like I forget why, but she wasn't able to do the film. I think she was still in it. Like she did a cameo, she just didn't play Mimi. But everybody else was pretty much the original cast. Yeah. So then he also continued to record with other artists. He recorded Goodfoot with Timbaland for Shark Tale, Black Eyed Peas, 2005, My Style. Uh but when he was recording the 2005 single signs with Snoop Dog, he discovered a throat condition and had to have surgery on nodules. Yep. He was advised not to speak or sing for at least a few months. Yep. Because they gotta heal. They do. So thankfully, his voice, I mean it did.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:26

Julie Andrews had the same surgery and her voice came back. No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:31

Oh, it never did. Remember? Oh yeah. Like she can still sing some, but not the same range.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:36

But man, her voice. I love her voice. And that's the thing, that's the thing about vocal surgery is like you should never rush into it because you don't know. Like, I remember even so young when I had mine, which they never should have done, but that's whatever. Them saying, like, you don't know, like, there's no way to know what's gonna happen after your cords heal. Yeah. So, like, and I mean, there's no way to know, even when you have nodules and they heal on their own without surgery, it can still leave scar tissue, especially if you're not doing what they're telling you to do. Like, so I mean, I'm sure he was terrified.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:11

Yeah. Terrified. Probably so. But once he pretty much healed from that, he started production on the second album, Future Sex Slash Love Sounds. Love that album. With Timbaland. I love this album. It's so good. It's so good. And he wanted to be more experimental with this one. He wanted to mess with more sounds, more like um artificial kind of sounds, that sort of thing. They have a synthesizer at some point. They definitely do. And then he was even like interested in more like rock direction, that sort of thing. He said he took inspiration from David, David, Bowie, and Prince. So that was pretty cool. So the lead single from that album, Sexy Back. I bring in it goes. I'm bringing sexy back. Two octaves apart, but we did it. We did it. Um, yeah, and so that was number one for seven consecutive weeks. And then the other songs on that one. Why do I not see sex love sounds? I remember that one. That one was really good. And it and it became, this is a fun moment in time. In 2006, it became the biggest album for pre-orders on iTunes. Beating out Coldplay. Oh, big deal. Yeah, yeah. And during that time when that came out, he hosted a bunch of music events, the 2006 European MTV Music Awards, the 2007 Kids' Choice Awards. Uh, he hosted Saturday Night Live again. And that 2006 one was the dick in a box episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:46

Towards the end of the year, December 16th. It's my dick in a box.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:49

I don't remember any other words. Me either. I want to, and I have to, and that's with Andy Sandberg, right? She said, no, I don't. Yeah. Andy Sandberg. He's so funny too. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:59

Um, oh, I remember, because they have steps. One. Put your dick in a box. Two. No. Cut. It's not one. Cut a hole in the box. That's right. Two. Place your junk in a box.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:18

Oh my God. The best one of my favorite parts of that video, and I can see it so vividly, is where they zoom in on my room off stage mouthing thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:29

Like she's not saying anything. Oh my God. Can you imagine? If the funniest thing to me is that if anybody ever presented their dick in a box, I would walk out of the room.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:39

I would be like, No. Where's my chocolate instead?

SPEAKER_01 1:47:42

Yeah. Jewelry, coffee mug, anything other than this, please. Thank you. That's so funny. Okay. And then he went on tour for that one in 2007. And at that same time was producing other albums, collaborating with other people. I said, would be here forever if I listed them all. When did he do the with the black eyed peas? Um that was earlier um 2005.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:10

Okay. I loved them. I loved them too. I also love them. You know, Caden told me they're like um like that one album they came out with. Um I'm trying to remember the name of it. But he said it's like popular again in the college world. Like they play the music at the clubs and stuff. I'm like, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:48:28

I wonder what it is. It's the one with the um running, running and run in, run in.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:33

I think it's the one after that, but it's the one with the the the neon green guy on the cover. Yes. I don't know the name of it. But yes. I used to listen to them all the time. Ella Funk was my favorite album.

Britney Spears Breakup And Apology

SPEAKER_01 1:48:44

So, so good, so good. Okay, go ahead. So he was collaborating with Timbalyn for all BI, all sorts of people. Uh and then in 2010, he started acting more. He played Sean Parker, the founder of Napster in the social network. And then he voiced Boo Boo Bear in the comedy film Yogi Bear. And then he starred alongside Cameron Diaz in Bad Teacher in 2011. I love that movie. And alongside Mila Kunis in Friends with Benefits. And I just put this in here because I thought it was cute. In July 2011, United States Marine Kelsey DeSantis uploaded a YouTube video asking Timberlake to be her date to the United States Marine Corps birthday ball. And he went. Love that. Yeah. In Richmond, Virginia. Love that. Then he started working on his third album, the 2020 experience, in June 2012. And he said he had no rules or end goal in mind. Great. Whatever. Wouldn't you love that? To be like, this is gonna cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I really just don't know. Let's just see what I feel. Let's just throw something on the wall. But look, it worked. That album had suit and tie on it, mirrors, tunnel vision, all of those. And then that was also the year he voiced the lead character in. Controls opposite Anna Kendrick. And then his wife's name? Uh is he branch? Branch. Branch, yeah, he's branch. His fifth album, Man of the Woods, was released in 2018. And that was two days before he headlined the Super Bowl in Minneapolis, Minnesota. So he got asked back 16 years later or whatever. Well, yeah. And then he has one more album from 2023, Everything I Thought It Was. And I didn't list tons of stuff about those because again, we'd be here forever. I will say Man of the Woods. I went to his Man of the Woods tour in Orlando in 2018 or 2019 with my friend Tanya. And he sang stuff from everything, including the trolls Can't Stop the Feeling. Love that song. I love that song too. And it was a really good concert. I'm sure was. I mean, he was like dancing the whole time. He's a great dancer. And he had great backup dancers. And it was a really good show. It was really good. So I enjoyed that. Alright. So personal life. Y'all know he dated Britney Spears. Of course. 1999 to 2002. And she's talked more about the breakup than he has. She said that she got pregnant when they were together.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:10

They mutually decided to terminate, which is completely within their rights in the relationship to do. But she says she didn't really want to, but he didn't want to be a father. But at the time, probably good that neither of them. But whatever. Neither here nor there. That's what they did. She also alleged that he was unfaithful during their relationship. And then she says he actually broke up with her via text message. Ew. She was on the set of a like music video when she got the text. He has never commented on any of these things. Well, Crown Year River is supposed to be about her. So he has implied, and friends of his have said she was unfaithful to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:51

They were young, they're probably doing it back and forth. I am sure. I've been in relationships like that when I was young. Yeah, me too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:57

And being like famous and not together and traveling all over. I'm sure it was both ways. He's also been connected to these other famous women, Alyssa Milano, and he dated for a little bit. That's right. Tatiana Ali. And then from 2003 to 2006, he dated Cameron Diaz. Right. He likes older women, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:16

Yeah, yeah. Alyssa Milano. Yeah.

DWI Arrest And Tour Trouble

SPEAKER_01 1:52:18

Cameron Diaz. Tatiana was probably his age. Yeah. Um, but then he started dating Jessica Beale, who's our age. Well, she, I guess she's a little older than us, but in 2007, they got married in 2012 in Italy, and they do have two children together, born in two 2015 and 2020. So after the release of Framing Brittany Spears, which was around 2020 time that that came out, there was some public attention brought to old comments Timberlake made in 2002 to describe his relationship with her following their breakup. And people were really pointing out the misogynist nature. Again, young, emotional, yada yada. I know. But I mean, I remember I don't remember exactly it, but I remember like hearing about it, you know, 20 years later or whatever when all this happened and being like, geez, like it just was it was bad. And it also, because of all that, stirred up more conversation about the Super Bowl thing and the wardrobe malfunction and just like basically lots of negative attention on him retroactively paid to him. Uh, but you know, that stuff did happen and does exist. So he actually issued a public apology then, writing that he quote, benefited from a system that condones misogyny and racism, and I do not ever want to benefit from others being pulled down again. He finished by saying, I care deeply about the well-being of the people I love and have loved. I can do better and I will do better. Okay, well, good. Hope you mean it. And I remember at that time, because obviously, like I follow a lot of like people who love Britney, and a lot of people were like, Okay, yeah, I'm not sure. Too little too late, sir. Like, who wrote you who wrote that for you? But look, he said something, and what he said is true. Yeah, he's not wrong. Whether he means it or not. Right. All right, so moving forward to a more recent controversy.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:11

June 18th, 2024, he was pulled over in Sag Harbor, New York. That's the Hamptons area, if you're familiar or you've heard of the Hamptons, around 12:30 a.m. The police said he ran a stop sign, he swerved out of his lane, and then they've reported that during the traffic stop, he had bloodshot, glassy eyes, slurred no. Oh, he sure did. We've now been able to see some of the footage, but that's recent. Up until now, this has just kind of been what Dave said versus what he said. Poor performance on field sobriety tests, and then he refused a breathalyzer. So they arrested him for DWI, and supposedly during the arrest, he said this is going to ruin the tour. Now, that is not actually on any of the footage they've released. Right. He does say, like, do you know who I am or something like that? He does do stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:01

He does try to pull his like privileged. Listen, I would too. I would too.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:05

Like, do you know who I am? Generation between co-hosts. No, I mean, I wouldn't. No, I know what you mean. If you were him.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:11

If I was Justin Temperament. Or someone famous. Well, I wouldn't be driving. No. But I, if I would be like, Don't you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:55:18

Yeah. So he filed a lawsuit against Sag Harbor to block the release of the body cam footage, but it was overruled. I mean, you don't get a special privilege though. I mean, unfortunately. And he said it, he argued it would cause irreparable harm to his reputation. I don't know. I guess I thought it would be a lot worse than it was. I mean, he's drunk and you're being like, I'm a star. Pretty sure he was high too. But like, remember when Mel Gibson and that got released. Oh, and he said some awful things. Nasty. So I was like thinking, maybe something like that. He's just very drunk. And no, you shouldn't be driving when you're drunk and you were breaking the lawsuit. But like, that was it. You know?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:03

I mean, the only thing he was doing was kind of he was kind of being a dick, but not like he was kind of like, don't you know who I am? And then he said something else. I I only watched bits of it because I was like, I feel weird about people like about police videos. I I don't I just feel like people's well, I mean people's worst moments. Should I yeah, I mean, what whoever you are, like nobody wants that. This everybody wear. And our our police system is broken too. So like I just yeah.

Final Takeaways And Next Watchalong

SPEAKER_01 1:56:34

That's a lot. So legally, he was charged with a excuse me, with a misdemeanor DWI, and then he reached a plea deal. Lesser offense, driving while impaired. Because he never did do the breathalyzer. So they came in the time. I know. So legal loophole. Which he knew. Yeah. He got a$500 fine, 25 hours of community service, 90-day license suspension. He is required to do a public safety message about drunk driving. So stay tuned for that. Should be coming. Guys, that is it. That is it. And there is so much more about these men than I went over today. But wow. I know. What lives they have led. What we can't wait to be done with this crazy research for a little while. I'm excited. I'm glad. I'm actually glad we're watching Boy Band Confidential at the end. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm really glad that we liked and said, let's kick off with that or whatever. Because us delving into this, to me, we got a lot more information than we would have gotten had we just kind of relied on that or hand. We had to like sort of like look for deeper things, which was a lot of work. And sometimes our audio. I think that's the worst part about an audio problem. I know. Because I was listening to our episode from last week, which again, where you said like, like I sounded pretty much normal, but I was like, this is one of our, like in recent memory, one of our best like banter ones. No. And the sound isn't what I want it to be. And I was really sad about that. But our longtime listeners, I I also feel like when something's a little bit off with sound, you sort of get used to it as it goes. And that's what was happening to me when I re-listened to us. I was like, at first I was like, ugh, and then I was like, meh, it's fine. I can hear what they're what we're saying and what we're talking about. But anyway, I've enjoyed this. I thought this has been a long time coming. I know. We've been talking about the boy band series, our listeners have been asking us for it. And I think um, especially when you go like over so many decades, like we are, because we're coming up to current time, it also reminds you of so many pop culture things, technology, so many like ward of malfunction, whatever it is, like all these different things along the way that you're also talking about. Yep. Which is just really cool. It is. And um, okay, so I'm still probably team in sync. Although I did say last week I was, I don't know. I'm still in Backstreet. Yeah, I think I am still in sync. Okay. But I do really have such newfound appreciation for all these groups. Oh, I do too. They work so hard, whether they're doing it as a group or separately.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:11

And you know, you got haters out there. Katie's husband was one because he came in to help us make sure our sound was okay. And we were like, okay, let's do part two. And he's like, imagine having an what did he say?

SPEAKER_01 1:59:22

He said, imagine having m enough material about a boy band to do two parts. We were like, you have no idea, sir. Sir. We're talking, okay, so we're over two hours now. And it was so bad. Three and a half hours. We've talked about in sync. I know. And probably at least that for about two years. And we still missed stuff. Of course we did. Okay. I have to pee. Okay, so we're gonna go now. We're gonna go. Um, one more episode of the series, uh, Boy Band Confidential coming to you next. And then pay attention to social for some fun summer Xennio Girl summer stuff. Yeah, it's coming being announced soon. So be ready. I gotta do it now, too. Ready? Yay! Promo longer new table. Okay, see y'all next week.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:00

Bye. Bye.