Boy Bands Series: Boyz II Men, Part 2

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Welcome Back To The Series

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hello everyone and welcome back to Generation in Between a Zennial podcast where we remember, revisit, relearn. Sometimes rewatch, sometimes re-realisten. I said it that time. You did? Yeah. Oh. I know I did because I knew you were gonna say that. It was the third one. I said it. But um we do all those things and you are here and part of our boy band series.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Except this is not a boy band because I don't like to be called a boy band.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Which we realized after we already decided to include them in our boy band series. I know. Whoops. Our bad. No word on if they're mad at us yet, but we'll let you guys know. Stress. This is part two of Boys to Men. Part one, if you haven't listened yet, you should really go back and listen to that first because we'll probably just breeze over a few things that we covered there more in depth. Because this episode, we're gonna talk more specifically about the four main members of the group, who they are as people, what they've done since their big heyday in the 90s, and what they're up to now. Um, let me do my correction from just our other episode.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

They were not on the Snoop Dogg halftime show in 2022. They were not, it was other people. Yeah. Dr. Trey, Fetty Scent, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, some other people, but they weren't there.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

It wasn't them.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Whoops. Whoops.

Nathan Morris And A Private Life

SPEAKER_02 1:20

Well, maybe you are just manifesting a future state. Maybe. But they had their own halftime show in '98, which we already said. Yes, they did. So we're gonna get into it about them, the four main members of the group. As we mentioned in the last episode, they're all from Philadelphia. They all went to high school together. That's kind of where the group formed. They had a few other members at the beginning that dropped off before they became really, really famous. Um, so let me just start right away with Nathan Morris. He's the baritone, still in the group. Uh, he was born June 18th, 1971. Of all four of these guys, I had the most trouble finding anything on him. I did find a few things. Okay. He's sort of, I wouldn't say he's not in the public eye because they're still performing and he's part of the trio that's still performing, but he's just very private. Okay. There's not a lot out there about him in general. But I did find that his family struggled financially when he was growing up. His father left them when he was around 10. And so he found a lot of solace in the church choir. Aww. And he played trumpet. Super fun. And when he was in fourth grade, a vocal teacher noticed his ability and level and started giving him free private lessons. Wow. And her and his mom nudged him into auditioning for the Philadelphia High School for the Creative and Performing Arts. Love that. Which is where he met the rest of Boys Boys to Men. And when he auditioned for the school, he belted out classical songs in Italian and German. What? German is hard. He doesn't speak either language, but he learned the music for his audition. Wow. Yeah. And he was accepted to the school. That's it. Probably immediately on the spot. He's also a composer and an actor. He was actually in the movie White Men Can't Jump. Oh yeah. In 92. And then he was in Tag in 2018. I've never seen that movie. He composed the music for that movie too. And then he was in Long Shot in 2019 and also composed the music for that. Love that. So he's doing some of that behind-the-scenes stuff, which makes sense if he has sort of classical training and plays trumpet and all the things. He understands music. In 2018, he hosted the show Hit Properties on the DIY network, where he bought and renovated multi-million dollar homes. Another renovator. Yeah, just like New York. Just like John. Just like John. And John's the more private one of that group. Yeah, yeah. But apparently having their own television. Love that. But it's outside what they do as a performer. And I think that's kind of. And then I found that he's married to Rachel Morris. And I don't know if they have children. I couldn't find anything on that. I don't know anything else except that he is married to her. And that was really all I could find. I searched up his parents' names, siblings. I was digging deep.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Watch, watch what's gonna happen is one of our listeners is gonna send us like a whole thing on him they find in two seconds. Because that happens to us. If you do all the time, I will be so happy. That happens to us all the time. It's like when you like you knew about the fire thing, and I was like, What? And then it was right there, right in front of us.

Wanya Morris On TV And Stage

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Yeah. I tried several different ways, short of going to Chat GPT, which I did not do. Good for you. Now a listener might find it on there, but from normal internet research, I did not find it. Or on the Boys to Men official website. It's okay. The official website barely says anything about any of them. It's just like here's all the awards they won. They're an amazing quartet slash trio. Yeah. Which is understandable. That's all I got on Nathan Morris. So we're gonna move on to Juan Yeah Morris, which I mentioned in the last related. They are not related. And he was born July 29th, 1973. He's a tenor. So they're all Gen X. Yes. Okay. Yeah, they're all born between 71 and 73. Yeah. Um, he which makes sense because they were in high school around the same time as each other. That's how they met. He's a tenor. His mom is Carla Morris, and his father's Dallas Thornton. They never married and they actually broke up when he was young. Uh, but he still has good relationships with both of them. He has one brother, Carrie, and two sisters, Serene and Dorothy. Cute. I love those names. Those are all good. He I found one elementary school he went to see. I found I went in the Wayback Machine. William Levering Elementary School in Roxboro, Philadelphia. It's a neighborhood in Philadelphia. And then the high school, the same one, the Philadelphia Creative and Performing Arts. He competed in season 22 of Dancing with the Stars. I mentioned in the last episode, he placed fourth. And he was partnered with professional dancer Lindsay Arnold. They did make it to the semifinals of the show, as I mentioned. And um, he had the highest accumulative average at the time of their elimination. So was that me? I think Dancing with the Stars stands, you can let us know. Part of their score is the judge's score, and part is votes. Oh, okay. And so whatever algorithm they use to put that together. So he had the highest judge scores. Love that. But he must not have had as many votes as like other people. And by the time you get to the final four, it's like there's usually like a clear favorite that everyone's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

He was in the final four and they were the first to leave. Yeah. Bummer. That's a big bummer.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Um, he's been in all sorts of TV and film appearances. He was on the music documentary film Happy on the Ground, The Odd Couple. Whose line is it anyway? Oh my gosh, that's so cool. Hollywood Darlings, To Tell the Truth, Long Shot, and Celebrity Wheel of Fortune. Wait, you were just very surprised by reading that. I I read through it, but I I forgot that Whose Line It is isn't anyway is an improv show. It just like hit me that like, oh, he was on an improv.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

But they do a lot of singing, they do, yeah. They do a lot of singing, which is hard as hell.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

And I always kind of thought that Wanye was a little bit of like the kind of goofy one. Did you know?

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Is he the one who sings back in school? We used to dream about it. That's him. That's okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

That's him.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Um that's what I think a lot of people think he's a lead singer, right? Or no? No, I think most people think Sean is. Okay. But Wanier maybe. Between the two of them, they're the ones like that come to most people's minds, I think. Okay. And even though they all we talked about this on the last episode, they're all lead singers, they all have different parts. I do think those are the two that sing the most, or maybe the most memorable parts of songs that we think about, which makes sense because they're tenors. Yeah. And they get the like, yeah, they get the higher stuff, which is what which is what is melody. Yeah. Makes sense. Um, he appeared in the Christmas special, A Very Boy Band Holiday, in December 2021. I have never seen that, but that sounds amazing. Um, I would like that on my TV. Me too. He also performed during I Can See Your Voice in March 2022. Do you remember this show? No, it was kind of I don't think I ever watched a full episode, but I've definitely seen clips of it on social. It's similar to the voice where you can't see the person singing. It's like a blind judging. You're judging. But it's called I Can See Your Voice. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. It isn't the voice, but it's like that kind of judged without being looked at. And it wasn't on for very long. Because I think it was kind of like a direct ripoff, but they tried to do it different and it just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. Um, this was really cool when I read this fact. In September 2024, Wanye appeared on an episode of Pawn Stars. So when I first saw that, I was like, oh no, like, what is he pawning? No, no. He was asked to authenticate a vinyl copy of Cooley High Harmony that was signed by the band, as well as a sheepskin jacket that was worn by Michael McCary on the album's cover. Oh, so was it real? Yeah. He said they were the real thing that a fan had or whatever. That's amazing. Pawn stars. I used to watch that. It's fun. The Dad in the Sun, right? Uh-huh. Yeah. They get all kinds of stuff. I mean, obviously, now people seek them out first of all.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

But their first few seasons was fun because it was when they were just normal people coming. Argue all the time. Yeah. Oh my God.

Wanya’s Marriage Timeline And Kids

SPEAKER_02 9:18

So, so funny. Um, okay, so I have a little more on his personal life because there's at least one tumultuous thing in here. So he married Tracy Nash in May 2002. They have six children. Four sons, two girls. Okay. His four sons form have formed an RB group called One More. And um that's it.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

I've I've looked up some stuff. That's not it on his first side. I'm like, and that's all about that fact. Don't worry. More facts coming at you.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

That's it. So after 17 years of marriage and six children, they separated in 2019 because there was kind of a public affair he was having with Amber Reyes. Do you know who she is? That name looked familiar to me. I looked her up. She's basically like a skincare influencer. Okay, I would never mind. And she's pretty famous. She is best known for founding LA Laser. I don't know, which is like a skincare laser company. Um, and they got they had a marriage ceremony while he was still legally married to Tracy Morris. What? Yeah. Um, and then he didn't officially divorce from her till like the next year. Yes. But celebrities like Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Boys to Men member Sean Stockman did attend the second wedding. So I started on this little rabbit hole on her. Her age, again, listeners, you're gonna find it in five years. This is like a Amber girl. I cannot find how old she is anywhere. Not on her side. I looked on Wikipedia, I looked just like everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

She's in the skin industry, she don't want people to know how they've had two more kids.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

So, and he's in his 50s. So he's had two kids with her. Okay. So he's eight kids total. Okay. Wow. And so I'm like, she's gotta be at least in her four early 40s. Well, maybe younger. Maybe older, too. Yeah, maybe older. Yeah, maybe. Some people stay fertile for a long time. Yeah, maybe then. My guess is the reason we can't see her age is because she's older than she wants people to know. Well, that would be my guess. We know we know people who hide their age. Yeah. But I was like, I thought it'd be easy. I'd just like look it up and go to the nope, it's nowhere.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

That's craziness.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

I did find that she grew up in Hawaii and I don't know. She's got this huge online following. I know. I that's how I recognized her name.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

I am not uh down with influencer culture. I have no idea who people are.

Shawn Stockman And Autism Advocacy

SPEAKER_02 11:46

And I don't know, I couldn't find how they met either. I don't know if he like went to one of her like laser places or they met at a concert. They met on his social media. I don't know. Who knows? So that's all for him. Wow, lots of children and um something going on there. Okay. Sean Stockman is Sean Patrick Stockman. He was born September 26, 1972. He's a tenor. He doesn't talk much about his family. I couldn't find his parents' name, but he did say that he just grew up with his mom. Okay, not his dad around, and that unlike the other guys in the group who kind of grew up in like gospel culture and church culture, he really didn't. And he said that his mom was exploring different faiths as he was growing up, and that that was okay by him, and that he learned a lot about music just from lots of different genres of pop music, rock, rap, all the things, but that he didn't really learn his like vocal technique in church. Okay, like the other guys. I don't think it really heard him though, so um he was also a member of the group Black Men United. Never heard of that until I was doing this research, and then he was a judge on the show The Sing Off for five seasons. Don't know that either. The Sing Off. I think that was the one where it was a cappella groups, yes, it was. Oh fun. And so Pentatonics was on there. They were on one of the first seasons. Yeah, and it was it was a cappella groups. Ooh, that's yeah, yeah. I remember watching, I don't think it's on anymore, but I remember watching the first and second season and being like, well, this show won't last that long because how many of these groups are there out there? But I think it was on for forever.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

I think there's a bajillion.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Yeah, I don't know. They were all just so good. I'm like, how are they ever going to find more groups like this? But people are just talented, what can I say? Um, so anyway, he did record a solo album during the late 1990s, but it was never released. Aww, I don't know why maybe that's somewhere. Um let's see, I already said that.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

I'm surprised that none of them have done solo stuff like more.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

I know, right? Because even with New Cause on the Block, they kinda all went off into different stuff. Um, so he appeared in this group, Black Men United, while he was recording the two album. And there they had a they had a hit, I guess, called You Will Know. Oh, so he was in it at the same time, Boys to Men was big? I guess so. Interesting. He also writes music and composes, and he wrote and sang the song Visions of a Sunset for Mr. Holland's Opus soundtrack. Oh, that movie is so. I love that movie. I don't know if I remember that song though. I probably as soon as I heard it, I would know it. But um he also wrote the songs Forever, Hot Thing, and Let It Go. Um Let It Go. No, not Let It Go. That's gotta be for, let's see, which played during the Showtime film. Okay, no, it was in a it was in a Showtime film called 17 Again. I was like, Not frozen. That was what's her name. Um Chris, not Christabel. Oh, well, she's no, she didn't sing it. I didn't even Zell sang it. Robert and Something Lopez. Well, you know, I'm not gonna couple. You could say whoever you want to do. Robert and I can't remember. Remember his wife's name. But they write all the Disney hits these days. Um, he also has a cover out there, and I looked it up and listened to it, it was pretty good of Beyonce's hit single, If I were a boy. And he's contributed vocals on the Foo Fighters album Concrete and Gold. That's an interesting song for him to have a cover of.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

I know. Because the whole point of the song is her being a woman. I know.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

It sounded good. I don't know why he did it. Maybe he just is a Beyonce fan. Okay. But of all her songs. No, that's an interesting choice. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:29

All right.

Michael McCary And Life With MS

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Whatever. Interesting. He is married to Sharon Jones, and he's the cousin of another soul singer named Anthony David, who I guess is really popular in the Atlanta area. Okay. This is interesting. He has four children with Sharonda, and two of them are twins. Ah, yeah. And one of the twins uh is a child, well, an adult now with alt autism. And so he and his wife founded the organization Micah's Voice, which helps support other families with children with autism, and it essentially helps you find care because it's so overwhelming, and also tries to help with the expenses associated with um raising a child with autism. So him and his wife are really involved in that cause, which is great. Yeah. All right, Michael McCary, as we mentioned in the last episode, he d stopped performing with the group in 2002, 2003, and has popped back in here and there, and he does have multiple sclerosis, which is a progressive chronic illness. So with time, it gets mobility gets harder, functioning gets harder, that sort of thing. He was born December 16th, 1971. He's the base of the group. Yes, known as bass or Mike Bass. Some people call him. Mike Bass. I love that. And his parents were Ornetta Thomas and Robert McCary, and he grew up with a brother named Robert McCarey Jr. And in 2003, so specifically he left Boys to Men because he was having back spasms specifically, which later was part of the symptoms of his MS. Yeah, he actually kept his condition from the other band members. He didn't make it public until 2016. I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Like if you're having a hard time coming to grips with it, and like some people don't want their shit out there. Like, you know, and it's a very private thing, and I don't blame him.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Yeah, you don't have to share anything if you don't want to. No. Um, he did have an interview with Oprah. Oh no, I'm sorry. Wan Ye and some of the other band members had an interview with Oprah before like this all came out, and they were asked about Michael leaving the group, and Wanye made a comment about how he had a lack of motivation. Oh, that's what we talked about with like the chronic illness stuff. Um, he accused McCary of not showing up to work, and that the group eventually had to carry on without him.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

You know, I I have several friends who have various, you know, chronic illnesses of various kinds, like fibromyalgia or you know, arthritis or whatever. And it's hard because I think you know, you don't walk around. It's hard with those illnesses that, especially the early stages of MS, that people can't see. And I have I know that I've had several friends be like, people just think I'm like lazy or being dramatic when I like can't get out of bed. Like I am so tired, I have no energy, can't move, like it hurts to move. And some days are like that, and some I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

So they were like, you know, I've I've talked to several friends who are like, people just don't understand, like you know, those invisible illnesses that you can't you don't know people are going through. And so that must have been really hard for him because he's dealing with this, he don't want to talk about it, and then they think that he's just unmotivated, right? And then there's the mental toll of all of that, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Like the huge mental toll of chronic illness, um, invisible diseases, like mental health is one of those, but on top of the physical, you know, that yeah. I read something recently about Christina Applegate that she at this point has to force herself to get up and to take her daughter to school, and then she just comes back and some days, some days, not every day, gets in bed or whatever, and then it's just like you know, it's uh it's awful. So yeah, he carried that around for for a long time. Um he was supposed to be okay, he was in the pilot for a talk show with Paula Poundstone. Oh my god. Called A Pound of Paula, but it never was picked up by anywhere. So it never happened. I know. I think that's a weird pairing, like you're out of the public eye, but you're gonna be on her pilot talk show. I don't know. I don't know if you're gonna be able to do that. Is he gonna be doing music? I guess so.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

I mean some talk shows have like the music, like like the people playing music on the side.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Oh, maybe. You know what I mean? Maybe it was something like that. I don't it I didn't find that he plays anything else though. Oh well, I don't know, other than singing. But he probably does. These people be musical geniuses. Um, he did appear on the TV series. Have you ever watched House Appealing on Oprah's own network?

SPEAKER_03 20:17

I have never seen anything on her network now.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

It's it's kind of like um was it Intervention that was on MTV or VH1, where they have like a professional and often they do they have regular people, but sometimes they have celebrity versions of it. It's kind of like that with a psychiatrist. Um, and so he was on there and he was talking about his struggles with depression and like strain on his relationships with his kids and stuff. Yeah, I know, poor guy. But as we mentioned in the last episode, just this year, 2026, he sang with Boys to Men um at one of their concerts in Vegas. And I mean, at least on a personal level, it seems like they all know now and are on board and um aren't mad or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

They probably feel kind of bad. Yeah. I mean, because you I mean, you know, you can only address what you know, right?

R&B Fame, Privacy, And Racism

SPEAKER_02 21:16

So that is like all I have on personal talking about them. I believe I revisited this like three days in a row asking different questions. Just I at one point I typed into Google, show me anything on Boys to Men. Because I'm like, if I just literally just go down the row and read all these articles, but it was just repetitive stuff that I already had, and I was like, who is the who are the parents of da-da-da-da-da, you know? And then it's just it was it was a whole rabbit hole. But I think that's interesting, and you and I talked about this before we started recording the why of this. Yes. Okay. First and foremost, Boys to Men isn't your typical boy band. Right. weren't manufactured. Right. They came to this organically. And I think there's an element of the manufacturing where you really are trying to sell the person and all the personalities in the group. So like Donnie Wahlberg comes from this big family, and that's part of his story. And we're gonna that's part of how we sell him. And vice versa. Whereas like for boys to men, I'm not saying they didn't have publicists that didn't want to do that, but it's a little bit less that way.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Well they were kind of seen as a unit more than like individuals that made it.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Totally. Which makes sense because even as a trio, it's not really the same. And you notice they've never replaced him. Right. They've never had members at least since they started recording and releasing things and were really widely known. They've never switched out members. Like, you know, they are like you said the unit that they are. So there's that. Uh we also, you know, we mentioned the racial component to this, especially from when they're coming up that even Maurice Starr said Maurice Starr, who is a black man, said, I want to form a white boy group knowing basically that's where the money is saying that's where the money was. So was is that part of it too I mean it's got people just weren't whoever the the people were who would like be selling this just weren't well let's be real we live in America the people in power are white men they always have been it's just part of our history.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

You can't deny that no matter where you stand on anything um and the music industry is no different and what is fed to us in pop culture is what the people in charge decide. Right. And you know I I I feel like we're making minuscule steps forward to have more voices and more you know representation for all people but now I feel like we're having the we're in this huge backswing. Huge. Definitely but I feel like the arts is where the I feel like any kind of arts dramatic musical that's where I feel like the most pushback comes from and I feel like it's always been like that. Yeah. And so hopefully we'll continue fighting the good fight causing good trouble. So but unfortunately I think that's I think that like you not being able to find as much stuff on them individually is a glaring spotlight on the reality of racism and all factors of our country.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

I really do.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

I agree and I think the other side of it is if you're looking up I mentioned this on the last episode there wasn't a lot of controversy around them. They kind of like showed up did their work all the things you know maybe a little later with Juanye's second marriage and all that but that has nothing to do with the group yeah um they but if if they were oh yeah quote unquote bad boys or getting into trouble or whatever I would have found all of that and then some. Right. There just wasn't anything really to find which is great.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

Well and so they probably as black men in America were trying and and in the public eye they were probably like hey we gotta like everybody's like we have to be extra you know whatever and keep our stuff together because people are watching us waiting for us to you know mess up or be bad boys or whatever. And that's unfortunate too because well that's just racism period. It is period so I think that that is a good point to recognize especially looking back on groups from the 80s and 90s and where the money went where the money was made where the money went into growing and it's almost like and the fact that we are white ladies who loved this group while they were popular because at the time it was in the mainstream pop world.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Of course but then as soon as they fell out like a lot of the stuff I talked about on the last episode was stuff I didn't know until I looked into it and I'm like oh they're literally going to be in Orlando oh they had 15 albums I own maybe three maybe four you know like um it's just it's it's the case of it I will say uh they seem very happy to still be performing and they seem happy with like their level of fame whatever that was at the time and even now you know the new kids we talked about how they like are so excited about their fan base and all of that. I don't really necessarily get that from Boys to men but that they are certainly respectful of that and they appreciate that people still want to hear their music and I like that they're like we mentioned on the last episode they're always doing um different variations of music and trying different stuff and singing new things. It's not just like we're gonna sing our songs from 1992 only. And there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

Look I think there's an audience for it and they're I'm sure they are singing and there's a lot of groups out there who are like I'm just gonna sing what was I'm just gonna sing what you want me there's a lot of groups out there that do that. But good for them. I mean they're they're very talented they're very entertaining and I mean good job Katie on your research. Do you think that they're a boy band after everything we've talked about I don't want to say because well I guess it depends on how you define boy band. True they're a band that is full of boys. Yes and they were young but they were boys when they started the definition that that he I don't remember which member it was that explained uh it was um it was Nathan okay that Nathan said where he said you know a boy band was manufactured which was even true for new edition I mean Marie Starr created them correct same and new kids in sync and backstreet boys who are gonna be next which is very interesting because did you know they were managed by the same label which everybody like they were cre InSync was created to pit against Backstreet Boy. It's crazy y'all I was watching the um dirty pop documentary girl this man Lou Pearlman oh god girl I'm dreading that girl girl anyway um if you're if you're saying it by that definition of like you know all the ones and like Lou Pearlman created all kinds of boy there were so many it was backstreet it was it was in sync it was O Town it was um with 98 degrees in there was that a different I think they were a different label but LFO they had um I'm trying to remember do you remember natural no okay I didn't remember them either until I saw them on this documentary and I looked them up and then and then you'd wrong about but it there were so many like no boys to men is not that version of a boy band. Right.

Who We’d Be In Spice Girls

Next Up In The Boy Band Run

SPEAKER_02 28:54

So and I think like we both said who our favorite like you know who the one we had a crush on or whatever last time but I feel like oh I had a crush on the bass don't get me wrong yeah let's go yeah I and maybe because also they presented as such a unit and they didn't have like everyone loved Justin Timberlake but he's also like the lead vocalist and everyone loved Jordan. He was not my favorite and sinker. Okay. But a lot of people get there. Yeah a lot of people did so it's it this unit you don't necessarily look at it and say oh Sean's the lead singer or or if you do think you know like it's more of a unit whereas boy bands kind of have the different tropes of people I feel like and girl bands really girl groups too girl oh yeah girl groups too even K-pop like they thrive on that like this is the cutesy one this is the you know sporty one this is the yeah if we were in a if we were in a girl group who who would we would be right now in our lives not like this instant this would be hot mess and hot mess yeah this would be bad um where do you think you would land I I think I have I think I know me I think I'd be I have no idea okay let's talk spice girls who would you be in the spice girls let's do it that way um I I think I honestly don't know who would you be I think you would be baby I was gonna say baby because she's so innocent and he sings high and all that yeah I could see that I think you'd be maybe sporty or scary I was gonna say scary I think scary I think scary I had to think about it she didn't want to say that out I'm gonna say sporty first and follow I'm not sporty though that's the thing I don't play but I think of like sporty as like she was cute and fun and like but she was sporty I don't play no sports sporty like I play zero here's the thing that's funny and we talked about this before I'm I am fit but I am not athletic I don't know that she played sports though no they always show her with like a soccer ball or like a basket like guys I wouldn't even know how to hold one fair enough so you're scary spice I would be yeah when I was in high school I used to always dress like ginger spice but I'm 45 now so that's not I'm too I'm more scary spice but yeah but that's not us. Yeah I'm baby and you're scary that's the one that's the one and I think those would be our tropes probably it would be yeah it would be like wow loud and out there and up front and I just be singing high and sweet and sweet and very vanilla.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

I wouldn't say she's vanilla you don't I think she's just like sweet and innocent and go with that. Yeah and go with that.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Well I don't know that we're ever gonna need to know that for anything but you never know maybe Halloween costume. We gotta start thinking ahead no all right all right well don't leave us before the I don't know don't leave us ever don't leave us before the portion when I hypnotize you know um I was gonna say don't leave us before the end of our boy band series because we've got some good ones coming in sync and there's a lot of controversy uh arising coming out I know oh no there's a lot a lot I haven't even started the research I was just watching that documentary and my stomach's starting to hurt think about it thinking about it it's also I'm also really hungry okay so we're gonna go we will um see you next time here on Generation in between woo bye guys bye