Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
TGIF Series: Wrap Up Episode
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In the final episode of our TGIF series, we talk about which shows still have staying power -- and which ones fell short (in our opinions, which differ as usual).
If you haven't yet, be sure to listen to all of our episodes in our TGIF series. We covered:
- Perfect Strangers
- Full House
- Family Matters
- Dinosaurs
- Step by Step
- Boy Meets World
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Cold Open, Captions, And Intros
SPEAKER_02Hello everyone and welcome back to Generation Between, a Xennial podcast where we remember, re-listen, re-watch, revisit. We redo so many things that but but never takes of the podcast. Those are always the first takes um that remind us of our childhoods in the 80s and being teens in the 90s.
SPEAKER_00This was a real interesting intro spin that we don't normally do.
SPEAKER_02It it was it's okay, we got it all out. I'm not reading off my teleprompter.
SPEAKER_00That's the problem. Your papers.
SPEAKER_02You know, they have a teleprompter function in here.
SPEAKER_00Nope, that will throw me. I haven't used it yet, but but you know, because I can't do closed captions, stresses me out. That's true. Like subtitles and stuff. I cannot, I know, I know you love them.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I love them.
SPEAKER_00Torah and I sat down, we've been trying to watch all the Academy Award nominees. And we sat down to watch this movie called, Oh my god, what is it? It was like The Suspect or something like that. It's a foreign film, it's three hours long, and it's all subtitles. And I said, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't do it. Like, and he's like, What is the deal? Like, you listen, first of all, I listen to things so loud. He's like, turn the closed captions on, but like because I have like attention problems, I can't read and watch at the same time. I like, it's just I it it's overwhelming and I cannot do it.
SPEAKER_02So I don't know how to I can't hear people then you just blast it like I do and make everybody miserable. It's just blasting they hate watching stuff with me because it's so loud. I mean, I listen to podcasts, obviously, and I'm not looking at words when I listen to those. It's just like me and stuff, yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I just like obviously because when you listen to a podcast, it's probably in your ear on your card.
Subtitles Debate And Loud Watching
SPEAKER_02They do have like ours have transcripts on Spotify. So if people wanted to, they could look at the screen and read it, and and I think on Apple Podcasts too, and on YouTube, I add the captions to our videos.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I mean, that's good. I I just have such a hard time. So when I finally I will get to the point where I have to use captions, and then I don't know what's gonna, I'll never watch it.
SPEAKER_02So you're just gonna hang hang on till that day.
SPEAKER_00I'm just gonna blast the volume.
SPEAKER_02I love it. I love it.
SPEAKER_01By the way, I'm Katie. Hello, and I am Danny. And uh welcome to opposing uh views on closed captioning, if nothing else, if know that.
SPEAKER_00Well, that is appropriate with our Xennial age because we're all creeping towards the closed captions if you're not there already.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you'll be there soon. You'll be there soon. Um, so today, speaking of watching TV, we are wrapping up and just sort of summarizing our series that we just did on TGIF.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Before we before we jump into that, our last episode was a James Vanderbeek tribute. And one of our friends who is a listener, I'm gonna say no names, guys. No names again gave us some insider info because she has a friend who went to college with James Vanderbeek, everyone, and told us the name of his a cappella singing group. It was 36 Madison Avenue. Okay, just so 90s. I just love that so much.
SPEAKER_02I love it so much.
SPEAKER_00Um, she did not know the relevance, by the way. Also, this friend of hers apparently had a nice little intimate trist with him before he left for Dawson's Creek. I will not give any more details than that.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00Uh, and I was like, holy crap. So we're like six degrees of separation from a James Vanderby cookup.
SPEAKER_02I love it. In the 90s. I feel like it's one, two, two degrees only. Because someone who knows someone. Oh, yeah, okay. Only two degrees. Well, that's pretty good. Pretty close.
SPEAKER_00That just made my day. I know. You cannot, you do not know the the look on my face when she told me this last night. And I was about to teach a class because she comes to it, and then uh I had to text Katie immediately. I was like, oh my god, guess what?
SPEAKER_02When I got home, I think in all caps I just sent what with a bunch of T's. She said, What is happening right now? What is happening right now? Or not right now, but you know, 25 years ago. 25, 29. I don't know, a long time ago.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, that was crazy. Also, we are wearing our windsuits.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And every time we wear these fucking things, we forget how uncomfortable they are.
SPEAKER_02We're like, good idea.
Listener Tea: James Van Der Beek Lore
SPEAKER_00And then we're like, no. Does this give me like a like a weird penis on our stomach area? Also, I know y'all know what I mean. When you're when you sit down and you have a zipper thing and it pokes out and makes you look like your belly button has a wiener, that's what it looks like. Also, every time we wear these, we're like, did we just gain 10 pounds? Because the waistband sucks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's like it, it's like you can't put it underneath your mom tummy and you can't pull it up over your mom's tummy. Like we've all grown used to with the amazing leggings that are the frickin' high waist. We uh moms out there love those because except can y'all please make some that don't roll down.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because they all do that eventually. You have to like mess with them. Yeah, it's so annoying. You know what I think we need to bring back is maternity pants. Remember how they all had those panels?
SPEAKER_02I mean, they still exist.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, like, but make them for regular people who are not pregnant that just have the remnants of pregnancy. I like it. I'd wear them. I would too. That little extra a little extra, because it that you know, you pull them up to your like boobs. Yeah, and it holds everything in and it's amazing. But anyway, so like we're in our windsuit, we're in these things, and we're very uncomfortable, and they're hot, they're warm, and I'm here for like nine more hours after this. But she brought clothes, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have clothes to change into.
SPEAKER_00I mean, your students probably would think this was really funny.
SPEAKER_02I may leave it on.
SPEAKER_00Last time we wore these is when I wear into Kohl's because I had to have do an Amazon return. And I swear, I was like, whatever, I just gotta get it done. And somebody saw one of our listeners saw me.
SPEAKER_02Shout out to Sam, she saw you. She's like, I thought I saw Danny going into cold.
SPEAKER_00She's like, I saw this lady. I was like, what in the world? It's like, well, that's what people think.
SPEAKER_02So that'll be today. It well, it's funny you said that because I went in and I was like waking up different kids this morning, and I went in my youngest, and I was like rubbing her back, and she gets out of bed and she tries to tell us she doesn't need her glasses all the time. But she really actually does. So she gets up, she follows me into the kitchen, I make her food, she takes the shower, she gets out of the shower, puts her glasses on, and she goes, What are you wearing? And I'm like, This is like the tenth time you've seen me this morning. But um, and then but then my middle schooler, oh yeah, we're not getting nothing past them. I walk in to wake her, she's already awake, laying there on her phone, and she doesn't even look up from her phone. She goes, What are you wearing? Oh yeah. I walked out and Cooper just laughed at me.
SPEAKER_00He's like, Okay.
SPEAKER_02And then my older ones, um, Amelia was just like rushing around, and she just walked by me and like looked me head to toe and gave me a thumbs up and kept going. Like they all process it differently, but it was funny. But I'll probably leave it on. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00We'll see how it's just uncomfortable. Like it's the waistband is digging into my stomach. It is because it's like right in the middle, it like cuts through the water. It's like the worst, the worst place on your waist.
SPEAKER_02I can't imagine this is what women like obviously we bought these on Amazon what a year and a half ago. Yeah, they're cheaply made. I don't think these are made the same way they were made. Girl, maybe they were. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I listen, I will I will take this off as soon as I get home today. Good. But anyway, we look good right now. We do, we look very restricted.
SPEAKER_02And that's why I wanted to wear them. I was just feeling like not bad or anything, but I was like, I just want to wear something bright and fun.
Windsuits, Waistbands, And Wardrobe Woes
SPEAKER_00But we forget we just forget every time. Maybe, maybe it's just the pants.
SPEAKER_02I think it's just the pants. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Maybe we just need to figure out and just do the weird zippers. Oh, yeah, the waner, the belly button waner.
SPEAKER_02What about like one that was like one piece?
SPEAKER_00Oh, girl. Like like a people my people my height cannot do that well. Oh the crotch would be to my knees. Listen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00In fact, I have two um like jumpsuit situations I am taking to get alterations tomorrow that I've had in my closet forever. Um, because of that reason. I gotta get it fixed. They're like anyway, sure people problems. But also, you're tall, so it could have the opposite problem in you where you get wedgy in the front. I could see that. Oh, that would no see. I know. So you have camel toe, I don't have crotch to knee. It would just okay.
SPEAKER_02Never mind, forget I said anything about the jumpsuits.
SPEAKER_00Our dresses are the best.
SPEAKER_02The dresses are great. We should wear those things again soon. Although with this backdrop, I don't know if we can.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, no, we can't. We can't. But I mean, just for an event.
SPEAKER_02For an event, that'd be fun. All right, I don't know what how we're on to our outfit. T GIF review. I would imagine this wouldn't be the first in our TGIF series that you're listening to, but if it is for some reason, a quick reminder TGIF was a prime time sitcom block of shows that ran um, I believe it was 86 or 87 through 2002. Is that right?
SPEAKER_00That seems really long.
SPEAKER_02I think it was 89, actually. It's just some of those shows started that early. That's what it was. Oh, those weren't on TGIF yet. It was 89 to 2002. All right, we all know how to remember numbers. And it was on ABC. Okay. And then some of the shows jumped shipping for final seasons over to CBS, but that wasn't technically TGIF, it's just what some of the shows did. So we re-watched uh six of them, I think.
SPEAKER_00Why don't you get out your little notes?
SPEAKER_02We're gonna notes.
SPEAKER_00Because we did have some other notes you had come up with.
SPEAKER_02I did, because I was trying to get all my thoughts in one place. Oh, how'd that work out? Um, well, we're gonna find out right now. New kids on the block.
SPEAKER_00That's my new research.
SPEAKER_02That was a little bit. We're gonna do boy band series.
SPEAKER_00Boy band series is next.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna read exactly what I wrote. TJF was a primetime sitcom block of shows that aired on Friday nights on ABC from 1989 to 2000, right in the middle of our tween and teen years, and we've just spent the past five or six five or six, I don't know, weeks delving back in, researching, rewatching some of the most iconic shows in the lineup. Okay, so here's the shows we re-watched some of. We okay tried to pick out you know, favorite episodes, pilots, series, finales, those things. We watched and researched Perfect Strangers, Full House, Family Matters, Dinosaurs, Step by Step, and Boy Meets World.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so should we rank them? I know we said we're gonna talk about our favorite and our least favorite. Sure. Should we rank them?
SPEAKER_02And are we starting with worst to best or best to worst?
SPEAKER_00I don't care.
SPEAKER_02Okay, you go first here.
SPEAKER_00Well, you want to do worst to best?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00All right, worse. Step by step gonna be bottom for me.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, we're gonna go step-by-step worst. Full house gonna be second worse. I know. Boy meets world gonna be third worst. Um what do I got left? So I said, step by step, full house, boy meets world, working our way up. So then I have three more. So then number three is going to be Family Matters, number two, perfect strangers, number one, dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_02So your three worst were the three that I researched and made us watch.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Um but I bet you, I bet you yours will almost be what mine were. I know what your worst one is gonna be.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna be dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay. So worst to best for me.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Dinosaurs. Probably step by step, though. Okay. I'd put that at five. Um family matters. I really like the early ones, really hated it as it went on.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that's valid.
SPEAKER_02And and I it's not my worst.
SPEAKER_00But I think we have to I think we have to rank them as a whole unit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So still, still, okay, all right. Compared to the other ones.
SPEAKER_00So that's your bottom three.
SPEAKER_02That's my bottom three.
Setting Up The TGIF Retrospective
SPEAKER_00Dinosaurs, step by step, and family matters?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Then Boy Meets Worlds, Full House second favorite, perfect strangers favorite. So we both had perfect strangers at the time. Full House over Family Matters? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I think so. I think Full House for me just stayed consistent. I don't know. So that's your favorite for well, Perfect Strangers was no perfect strangers are your favorite.
SPEAKER_00So why was that?
SPEAKER_02I just forgot how much I really liked that show, and I just felt like yeah, I guess it was sort of the same storyline over and over again, but it just was more outside the box than the other ones we watched, and I just enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_00I think you have a crush on Balkie.
SPEAKER_02I think you have a crush on Balkie. Okay. I do like Balkie. I just don't have a crush on him.
SPEAKER_00I know, it's okay.
SPEAKER_02I know.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I think she has a crush on Larry.
SPEAKER_02Honestly. She probably did. Yeah. Okay, so tell me why dinosaurs was your favorite. Oh, come on.
SPEAKER_00You have to appreciate that puppetry. Come on.
SPEAKER_01I do.
SPEAKER_00I know. That I just thought it was so weird and different. And it's the same formula as all these other shows.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But it was, it was just so funny to me that it was like, I just thought it was very creative. Let me put it that way. The creative and the artistry of the puppets were the best.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I appreciated that. I just didn't enjoy it as a show anyway.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I know. I know. And that's fine. That's fine.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so then um, what about so those were our favorites? What about the bottom? So the bottom for me was dinosaurs, so I guess I'll go first. I just, it was so slow. I didn't think any of the storylines were interesting. I just really had trouble watching it.
SPEAKER_00And then they went extinct. Come on. Well, yeah. Well, that was the other thing. I like how I liked the ending of the show. I like that it didn't just be like all the motherfucking shows where it's like, oh, we're all moving. Just kidding. Not really, bitches. This whole show story was no point. Right. So I like that, but you didn't like that. I didn't like that.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why. It just felt like, yes, I guess I guess it was. Because it was supposed to have a bigger message. Yeah, and I guess there's an argument to be made that the show did that the whole time. So it's not just like all of a sudden the final show they had like some social message, but I don't know. I didn't enjoy it.
SPEAKER_00That's fine. It's I mean, you're you're you're not in a slim group of people. A lot of people hated that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's a huge chatted about thing with 90 shows.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So you're not alone. Okay. And then your um least favorite. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Step by step, I just could not.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
The Rewatch List And Ground Rules
SPEAKER_00It was the kids were annoying. The big like the whole premise of the show. Did you okay? So we had somebody comment on our my favorite favorite thing is when people comment on our um social media clips that have never listened to our show. Because it's funny, because when you hear our little, you know, 20, 30 second sound bites out of context, like you have no idea what we talked about the other hour, hour and a half. And it's really funny because that one person when I posted a clip about how the the premise of this show was creepy, she was like, Well, it's somebody was like, Oh, it's just the Brady Bunch and blah blah blah. And I act I we don't usually respond, but I did. I was like, Well, no, I said it's just the premise of it. And I said, We didn't realize it until we rewatched. She's like, Well, I've rewatched it three times, and it's and I was like, All right, well, like I'm not creepy from there. It was made clear she didn't hear the rest of our explanation, and I was like, that's fine. Like, yeah, we'll just let it be. And it was it's just funny because I don't think I realize how and that like that, I don't know. I just didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02The beginning, like how they met and how that's what I mean. The origin story. Like, we don't think that blended families are creepy. Obviously, we're from them, yes, right. Obviously, we're living them. You're in one, but like it's yeah, it's the the way that they kind of normalize that. Which did you see that Bo Derrick thing I sent you?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Did you girl? I don't think I knew that.
SPEAKER_02It was uh fill that fill in our audience. Okay, so I saw this kind of article, I guess, about Bo Derek, who we love, beautiful, wonderful. How when she was 16 and kind of coming up, her director, who was over 30 years old. He was 40 something. Yeah. Um, he was married to Linda Evans, the actress, and he basically decided Bo Derek. I mean, I I guess she I I'm not even gonna say she decided because she was 16, so she was a child, so you really you cannot consent to someone that much older than you as a child. Um, they started dating air quotes to the point that he divorced his wife, and then they were together till he died in 1998, ended up getting married, having three or four kids, and then he basically controlled her career the whole time. And at the time in America, it was viewed as this like I can't imagine everyone felt this way, but in general, like this like Hollywood glamorous love story, like beautiful ingenue and director, and now they're married, and now they have a family. That's just so gross.
SPEAKER_00Well, and the article said it was grooming.
SPEAKER_02It was, it is.
SPEAKER_00I mean, when he started approaching her, she was 16. He was 40 something years old.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Hello.
Worst-To-Best Rankings Compared
SPEAKER_02And then ended up like being the person controlling her career in life from there. Right. Which is awful. Well, but it was kind of celebrated because they were both famous, I guess.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Fucking patriarchy as always it's gross.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's bothered by it.
SPEAKER_00It's like the thing, when we look at things with new eyes, you realize exactly like step by step, you realize, ooh, that's kind of gross. And what I'm talking about is the the premise of the story was that they went on vacation alone and got married, but he followed her there. Right.
SPEAKER_02He found out where she was going on vacation or to her conference or whatever she was doing and went. And then didn't tell her until like that's creepy. That's I don't know. That part, that part. Yeah, I mean, uh there I didn't I would say I didn't enjoy that. That that show and dinosaurs are probably equal for me. I what? Yeah, dislike like in the not wanting to watch it again.
SPEAKER_00Wow. Well, I just thought too, like the kids, they the way they wrote the kids were just obnoxious, like they weren't very nice, they weren't very likable most of the time. I mean sometimes, but like I just yeah, uh no. And full house is just too cheesy for me. I just can't. And I love the cheese. And I liked it back then, up to a point. Remember, I said that I liked it up to a point, and then I couldn't do it anymore. I don't like the I just I don't know. I need if it's gonna be cheesy, I need it to be like animals.
SPEAKER_02Because dinosaurs could definitely have its cheese moments. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00But they're puppets and like the it obviously, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02So, okay, I have a couple circle backs to to after it aired people reaching out to us. Oh, yes, okay. So Anthony and then our friend Sarah also told us that remember in the Halloween episode of Boy Meets World where it was like weird, and then Will Friedel and Jennifer Love Hewitt start making out in the hallway. Oh, and you had said are were they dating? And we didn't know. They were, they were, yeah. Confirmed.
SPEAKER_00Add that to the list of facts we could look up on our own and don't.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, don't. I guess I could have after that after that um episode. Uh I guess that was the only one I wrote down. I know Sarah sent us a few more, but I can't remember what they were. She did.
SPEAKER_00Look in our little text is um Do we have our group? Chat and we can say what we love is when our friends this is so funny. People who we are friends with in real life.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I know what it was.
SPEAKER_00That um listen to us. It's funny, like if they listen to episodes like way after they come out or whatever, because we forget y'all what we even talk about. Right. And they'll she has learned though to like tell us because they'll just send us something like, oh, this, this, this, and this. And we're like, what are you talking about? Like, because they had just heard us talk about it. Right. So Sarah will say now, in your episode, she is, she's she encapsulates the whole sentence. She's like, in your episode, you said you didn't know if Will Friedel dated Jennifer Love Hewitt. The answer is yes. So then we're like, she does say that. Okay, because she used to just text us, and she wasn't the only one. We have multiple other friends who would do that too, and we'd be like, We do not know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02They'd be like, it's green. We're like the color you're looking for is green, and we're like, huh?
SPEAKER_00Especially when they're like way older episodes. My sister will do that because she listened to all our Christmas episodes just recently because I told her not to listen to them during Christmas because it was very hard time for us. Yeah. And um she'll do that and be like, Oh, I remember this and this and this. And I'm like, Okay, but what?
SPEAKER_02I recorded that in October.
SPEAKER_01Girl, I don't know. That's so funny.
SPEAKER_02All right, what'd she say? Here we go. Boy Meets World stuff. Rider Strong, that jacket was actually stolen when his car got broken into in New York City. And he doesn't has never seen it again. Okay, Ben Savage, who was once a senator's helper, according to Danny, um, ran for office in California, and that's around the time that he kind of ghosted everyone. So maybe, I mean, still not cool, dude, but maybe he's just trying to like keep his political Well, he's a Republican and they're not. I'm sure. Okay. And probably just trying to like separate himself from his Hollywood self, I would imagine. So he can be a senator or whatever he's trying to do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, but that was it. Those were the only ones I had. Uh, other than people just saying they really liked um the different shows. Um, what do you think? So we didn't. Watch Mr. Belvedere, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Those are two big ones we didn't watch. And then there were tons of short-lived ones.
Why Dinosaurs Divides Us
SPEAKER_00I know. That were like that Migo one kept coming up.
SPEAKER_02The Migo one, whatever that is. I know. We didn't even look up what that was about.
SPEAKER_00We did, I think, once look up what it was about.
SPEAKER_02But um we didn't watch those because they didn't have as much, and then the short-lived ones. We ain't got we ain't got all the time, guys. No, we don't. Do you think there well, I already know the answer to this because I said something to you the other day and you're like, there's no such thing as prime-time TV anymore. But do you think there will ever be like a block of shows that has this kind of dominance again?
SPEAKER_00I think in order for that to happen, streaming would have to go away completely. Because that's the thing. That's the that is the most interesting thing to me about our generation. I guess technically millennials the or like the older millennials probably fall into this category too. We were like the last generation to have that monolithic cultural pop culture experience where people were watching prime time TV, going to the movies, and honestly, I think what made the big shift was COVID, is when we were all quarantined and the streaming went up, and then people realized I don't want to leave my house. And and I mean, and obviously the internet too.
SPEAKER_02Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_00But now it's just there's so many choices. Like every now and then something will pop into the cultural zeitgeist or whatever, but it's still not like it was.
SPEAKER_02I feel like every time I've tried a normal network show in the past couple years, like I'm like, oh, well, with the exception of Tracker, I really like Tracker, the show, and that's I think on CBS. Oh, that's with the guy from Yeah, This Is Us. It's off season right now, so they don't have any new ones. I do like that one. But like we tried The Good Doctor, is that what it's called? Um, it's Josh Charles. He was on The Good Wife, and he was in Dead Poets Society. You probably know his face if you saw him. He's actually one of my favorite actors. And my husband and I tried three or four episodes of it, and Annie Potts is in it, who I love. Yeah. Uh she's his like older aunt. And we just we were like, this is not good. And I think it's that primes most primetime shows, quote unquote, right? Which you could we were still watching it, not during prime time, but those types of shows are trying to follow the same model, but everything's changed with what's available, with like the stranger things of the world and all of that, like everything has changed, so they don't really hold up the way they used to.
Step By Step’s Premise And Rewatch Ick
SPEAKER_00Well, that's the thing. Now everybody is used to watching whatever they want to, whenever they want to. And you know, streaming platforms have their own shows, like Netflix Stranger Things was a Netflix show. And people don't want just one episode, they want a whole season they can sit there and fucking watch and win. And I think that takes away some of the fun of it too. Is because part of the fun was waiting. Like, even when we're re-watching all these Dawsons, it's it's funny because when we're watching, we usually rock watch two episodes, and it's every time I'm like, okay, I have to remember when this aired, we had to wait a whole week or longer sometimes, if it was a holiday or something, to see what was gonna happen next. So it makes it a little different, like because it does sometimes we're like, well, why? blah, blah, blah. But it's because there was no waiting period, right? So I don't, I don't, I think there were we would have to get rid of streaming completely, right?
SPEAKER_02Which is is is never gonna happen there. Which, you know, speaking of that, you and I had a discussion about this this week too, about how streaming changed pricing for actors. So Dawson's Creek's a great example. Well, first of all, they didn't have very good contracts anyway, because they were signing with the freaking WB, which was fledged things and they were young. But the idea was if you had a hit TV show, you'd be set for life because it would get syndicated, there would be reruns, and you make money every time it airs. But in the case of shows like Dawson's Creek and others of that time, the Netflix was already happening then. Like you could get discs and stuff like that, and then of course, streaming, none of that was accounted for in any of their contracts. So none of them make that residual money that maybe you would have made if you were on a hit show in the 80s or even the early 90s, like a full house or a family matters by the early 2000s. Anyone in those really until the contracts caught up with things like streaming. So there's like a gap of time there where those actors really make nothing off the shows they were in, right? Other than what they got paid to do it. But if you are sort of expecting that because that's an industry standard, that's that sucks. Yeah, it does suck. And then you kind of get pigeonholed into those characters and it's a whole thing. Oh, but anyway, anyway, well, I think that this was a really fun series. I'm glad we did it. And as you mentioned, um, we're gonna be doing boy bands next. And I may have slipped on one of the names, but that's okay. No, we can do that.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I think too with TGIF, it was so fun because it was K it was the audience was intended for like that audience of kids and their parents too that they could watch together that couldn't be out on their own yet, like middle school time. So now there's not, I mean, it's on Netflix. Like, you know, how often do you sit down with your entire family? And you you're a good one because you have multiple age groups in your house. It's very rare to all sit down and watch my husband and I barely even sit down and watch stuff at the same time because we have very different like schedules and interests and all the things. Like it takes effort, I'm sure it's like that for y'all too. Like, and it's just so funny when everyone sits down. Now there's too many things to pick from. There is then it's like, well, all right, we want to watch this, but like, does our 13-year-old want to sit here and watch something that has a sex scene in it with us? Probably not, probably not, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we'll have to save this, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know, but then it feels so silly, like a lot of the stuff that we watched at their age, they watch now and they're like, what? Like it's by it's not what they're used to, right? Entertainment-wise. Totally, which it could be a good or bad thing. We got into this whole conversation the other day about attention spans because I feel like the younger generation, they don't they even have a hard time watching movies because all they watch are are like YouTube shorts, quick little videos on Instagram or Snapchat or wherever, and it's just dopamine hit after dopamine hit. They cannot pay attention. I feel for them teachers out there.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, and you're a teacher of kids too with music.
90s Culture, Grooming, And Looking Back
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. And um, I help out with our improv class once a week, too. And that's that's it's tough. Yeah. And a class like that where it's kind of based on lots of variety of things, even a game that maybe is gonna take five minutes of the class, three minutes in, their kids are like not focusing anymore. Um, I even noticed it from my older kids to my younger kids. So my three older ones who are all in their late teens now, I could turn on an episode of Dora the Explorer or one of the pets or um Phineas and Ferb, and they would watch it. If they'd be like playing with toys or whatever, but they could do it. By my other two, who are now 13 and 11, they never watch TV shows. Yeah. Like my youngest loved Paw Patrol, but couldn't like watch a whole episode. She she liked the characters into play with them and stuff. But they and like they don't really watch movies, they don't watch movies at all. And that's weird. And I noticed it even just from like that three or four year gap between my older ones and my younger ones.
SPEAKER_00It's wild. I mean, my youngest likes to watch movies, but he it's like he's always doing something else at the same time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm I have to f let not let myself do that because I tend to that as well.
SPEAKER_00I'm not just blaming the younger kids, like adults are just as bad. We also have are getting to the like to the point where we can't pay attention to stuff, and and that's sad. Like, yeah, to to be like now there are times when I am just not interested in what I'm watching. Sure.
SPEAKER_02And or you know, we all have you have it on in the background, and maybe you your first priority is looking at your emails or answering something, and you just have something on, right?
SPEAKER_00That's different, but like sitting to watch a movie, like it dri it drives me crazy. And my oldest, he's not really a big movie watcher anyway, but like if he's over Christmas, like if we sat down to watch like Christmas, he could not not check his phone every, you know, and it's like okay, like just put it away. And I also told my youngest last night, like we were going to bed early, and because like it was like 9:30, and we were like, we're going to go to bed. Like, and when I say go to bed, we're going to like read and like decompress, get off screens, go read a book. And we're like, you don't have to go to bed, like sleep, but just go in your room without screens. Because he's not allowed to have his phone in his room. His video games are supposed to be are like off. And he's like, What? And I'm like, Yeah, you have a radio in there, you can listen to CDs, you can read a book, you have a notebook. Do something that does not involve a screen. Y'all, I was like, you gotta learn how to be bored. Like, kids, like, not just kids, adults too, everybody these days, myself included. Like, like, watch people, it's it's like I do this social experiment to myself every time I go somewhere and I have to stand in line.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, do not get on your phone and watch and see how many other people everybody, every time, unless there's like a much older human being, they will not be on their phone. But it's usually me because I'm consciously saying, Don't get on your phone, even if it dings, don't get on your phone until you leave. I'm gonna be in line for what five minutes and it's it's such an interesting social experiment because nobody knows how to do it anymore. And like Troy even said at work, like he'll, you know, he like works in an office, like no windows or anything. So he's like in the middle of the day, sometimes he's like, I'll just go and walk around. And he's like, or I'll just go outside and sit on a bench just to be outside. And he's like, but I'll just sit there. And he's like, but if if there's other people sitting, like everybody's on their phone and they think I'm weird because I'm just like sitting there.
Boy Meets World Facts From Friends
SPEAKER_02What's this man? It's funny because I did that the other day. I went by our building that we're renting right now, and I was waiting for someone to come pick something up. Uh-huh. And so there's a bench outside, yeah, and it's nice out. So I'm like, I'll just go sit and wait. Left my phone inside, like, came out, sat down, and it's a heavy foot traffic area. So several people walked by me. One one guy must have been walking somewhere and then back. So when he walked by the first time, he's kind of like, Hi. And I was like, hey. And then he walks back the second time, and this time he doesn't say hi. He just looks at me very suspiciously. I know, right? And I'm like, I'm literally just sitting on a page. And of course, a couple times in saying they're like, Oh, maybe I should grab my phone. Maybe they're not coming. Maybe, oh, maybe I should be like, and I was like, no. Like you said, I'm gonna sit here for five or six minutes, and and then like 15 minutes went by, so I was like, okay, so I went and checked my phone, and they're like, Oh, we can't come today. But that's okay. But I got 15 minutes out there unplugged, just saying hi to people and enjoying making them freaked out.
SPEAKER_00It's just sad because like our brains, like that's I think where creativity happens is in the dead space, right? Quote unquote dead space. And like we don't let ourselves just be there, you know. And I I admit it's hard for me just because I like I have anxiety, and the dead space is the scary space when you have anxiety. Of course, yeah, of course, it's the scary space. So I've always had to be very conscious of that. Like, like I used to have like all these therapy exercises they would make me do to be like to not let myself spiral, or if I started to spiral, how to stop yourself spiraling. But it's just it's just sad to me how that is the norm now to always be on a device or a screen for everything, you know? Yeah, like all the time. And I I just I hate it, it bugs me. And I I I've always tried to be very conscious of of like screens.
SPEAKER_02Uh, but I struggle to, I mean, it's because it's everywhere, and you have to really I think for me too, it's and I do have to draw, I do have to ask myself, and I've been doing this a lot, like maybe the last year or two, how much is productivity? So for me, it's like I'm a constant productivity person. So if I have dead space, I'm like, okay, great, I can write that person back really quick, or I can make sure like no one's canceled yet for today. Let me take a peek. And I'm standing in line at the grocery store, so sure, why not? You know, because then I one less thing I have to do later. Yeah. And I think there is space for that, and it's nice that we can do that stuff, but I have to ask myself, like, well, do I need to email that person now? Or when I'm done with my lessons, can I just take 10 minutes and email everybody back?
SPEAKER_00Have intentional time, right?
SPEAKER_02Like, and and instead of rushing and oh, I might not get it. Oh, no, I gotta send it before I like pay the grocer, you know. So that it's not even any better, and the quality of what you do when you miss things. So trying to like ask myself that as I go, and sometimes it is like, no, it's a crazy day, let me do it right now, and that's a choice rather than just scrolling and like trying to to find whatever.
Could A TGIF-Style Block Happen Again
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think it's hard to because you do have a lot of business things that go on and not normal business hours, right? Right, that too. So, I mean, sometimes that happens to me. Like, I got a text from a previous personal training client last night at like 9 30. But that I mean, I give them my my cell phone number on purpose, right? So you and I mean she has small kids, and like you get pockets of time when you get pockets of time. Sure. Now I didn't respond back until this morning, sure, but that's when she could text me, right? And so I was like, it that's just the way it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, but I had to look something up for her. So I was like, well, I don't want to rush this. I'll wait till the morning when I'm like fully fresh and can look it up for her. So I did at 6 45 this morning. I was like, here you go. Um, but anyway, yeah, I don't know. So all that to say, the days of TGIF are long gone. Long gone. And I don't know if they'll come back.
SPEAKER_02It may have been the last great block of that that is gonna ever happen.
SPEAKER_00But I don't know, maybe not. Because like I was saying on a past episode, sometimes you have a pendulum swing. Now we're in a shitty pendulum swing in our society right now. Of course. With things going backwards in uh not good ways. But, you know, I don't, it's just like uh, you know, I like to read, but um, I will only read physical books or I will listen to them on audio. I'm kind of out of my audio book phase right now, which is weird, because for the longest time I loved them, but I just like to I maybe that's why I just want to hold a book, turn the pages.
SPEAKER_02That's how I am. I don't have an e-reader. Yeah, I just can't read from screen so much anyway. I know it's exhausting for work, for emails, for everything, music, even like like if I'm in a show and there's an option to have like a digital score like on an iPad or a phone, or like a scores score, I will always score because even like playing music, you know, the younger students, even my daughter, she asked for an iPad for her music, you know, because she's like it's easier than carrying around all my music. But how do you do notes and stuff? She annotates right on the music everything. They can, and you can do the same thing with scripts. I've seen people do it, but I'm like, I just want to highlight it with a highlighter and write it down. I have you know hard planners for that same reason too.
SPEAKER_00So I'll never get rid of my hard planners.
SPEAKER_02You know what we should do? We should do a little trivia before we go. Oh, we shall want to let's do it. Okay, all right, which one's on top? 80s. Okay, you do that one.
SPEAKER_00All right, we haven't done trivia in a few episodes. We remember remember back in the day when we said we're gonna do this every episode. We did, but some of our episodes have been long. I know.
SPEAKER_02So look, FYI, we could still do it, but it's yeah, FYI, the new kids on the block is gonna be long, guys. I can't wait. It's gonna be And we're gonna have more boy bands after that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and also, I mean, it's gonna be long because they still out there doing it.
SPEAKER_02I love that.
SPEAKER_00They started in 1986, really, and they are still going now. They had they did break up for a bit. I mean, they not break up, but they did not work together for a long time and then they had their reunion. But ever since they re had their reunions, they've been going. I love that because look, they still making some bank, they are having so much fun and they know who their audience is. They do, and they love it, and they are they have a cruise that they do. They are I I texted Katie and I said, Oh my god, they just are starting a residency at the MGM in Vegas from now until did I say October?
SPEAKER_02You said February next year. Oh, did I? Yeah. Okay. You said February. So I was like, she must mean next February.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So I guess they're doing a full year then.
SPEAKER_02Awesome.
SPEAKER_00Y'all, we need it.
SPEAKER_02We're trying to go. We're trying to go.
SPEAKER_00I love Vegas.
SPEAKER_02Are they at Planet Hollywood?
SPEAKER_00No, I just said MGM.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm sorry. Like I literally Vegas. I just love Planet Hollywood, I was hoping, but I also like MGM. It's fine. That was so funny.
SPEAKER_00Like I literally.
SPEAKER_02All right, let's start with the 80s because we're 80s babies.
SPEAKER_00I'm on the wrong side. Hold on.
SPEAKER_02I'm on the correct side as well.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I'm on the wrong side. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I'll pull out one.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Oh, well, this is a video game question. But it's multiple choice.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Okay, my husband would get this.
SPEAKER_01Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00And actually, my kids probably would. I would not. If you are underground trying to inflate puka's and figars, I'm probably saying that wrong. It's F Y G A R S. Until they explode. What video game are you playing?
SPEAKER_02Girls.
SPEAKER_00You have four choices.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
Streaming Changed Money And Residuals
SPEAKER_00Dig Doug, Yars Revenge, Joust, or Tempest.
SPEAKER_02I would guess Dig Doug. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah, okay. Context clues. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Never heard of it, never played it. Well, good for you.
SPEAKER_00I've seen them play it. I have not played it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Fair enough.
SPEAKER_00I've seen them.
SPEAKER_02All right. Let's see. I feel like we've had that one.
SPEAKER_00I feel like some of these are repeats.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, some or they're just repeated cards. Okay, here we go. Danny. What is the first Danny? Like we're actually. Yeah. What is your wager? Okay. What is the first rule of fight club?
SPEAKER_00There is no fight club. Right?
SPEAKER_02Sort of. Sort of.
SPEAKER_00Never talk about fight clubs. That's it. Okay. You were close. You were close. I'm like, wait, what would they say? The virtual fight club is.
SPEAKER_02You do not talk about fight clubs.
SPEAKER_00I thought he said there is no fight club. I'm getting it wrong. I'll look up the quote later.
SPEAKER_02No, double or nothing.
SPEAKER_00Okay. What is the last rule? Ooh.
SPEAKER_02I would not have known this.
SPEAKER_00I don't, I don't know. I'm not even gonna try.
SPEAKER_02If this is your first time, you have to fight.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_02I remember that now. Did you see that one in theaters?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Me too.
SPEAKER_00In the end, I was like, what?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. My friend's best friend and I went and we didn't talk the whole ride home.
SPEAKER_00We were like, what did we happen? It's a great movie. The violence is crazy. Like, I'm not, I don't know, but I remember re-watching it because Troy loves that movie. I remember re-watching it after I saw it the first time. It's like when you re-watch The Sixth Sense and you pick up stuff. I won't I mean, guys, these are movies from the 90s, but so like if it's a spoiler, whatever. But like when you realize that he was everything was not real, and then you're like, okay, well, now I want to watch it again. That is so that is smart filmmaking. It is because most of the time people will re-watch it to see what they miss.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's so it was so much different when I watched it on a like a rewatch. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because you do pick up stuff.
SPEAKER_02I mean, the play we just did next to normal is like that. People who haven't seen it and then they realize the big thing. Yeah. And they want to watch the beginning again. Right. Because they're like, oh shit, like I need I didn't wasn't using that frame of mind. Yeah. But yeah, awesome. Okay. Give me another one. Oh, wait. No, I got it wrong.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02Oh, because you did double. I did it.
SPEAKER_00I said it wrong.
SPEAKER_02All right.
SPEAKER_00So whatever.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_00This is an Olympics question.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00Why is that sad?
SPEAKER_02I just feel like I'm not gonna know it, but I will try. I like the Olympics. She said it. They're my favorite, but they are? They're your favorite. I do like the Olympics. Yeah, they make me happy.
SPEAKER_00All right. This is just a number. So it's the number of gold medals the USSR won in the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
SPEAKER_0224?
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, this was kind of a trick question because it's zero because they boycotted that year.
SPEAKER_02Oh. I did know that they didn't come to the Los Angeles ones. But yet she still said 24. Also, where why did I say that number?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. That's a lot of metals.
SPEAKER_02Everyone's so mad at me right now.
SPEAKER_00I know. Okay. It's okay.
SPEAKER_02Let's do another one for you. Oh, you're so wedding. You're gonna know this one.
SPEAKER_00All right.
SPEAKER_02What strapless? Padded push-up brazzier made its what it says. Brazzier. I'm telling you. Made its US debut in 1994 and became one of the most popular products among women. It was strapless. Was it the Wonder Bra? It was strapless. I think it could be strapless. Oh, yeah, it had detachable straps. The Wonder Bra. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Did you have one? Oh, I had one.
SPEAKER_02I think I did.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we all did.
SPEAKER_02Like in late high school or college for sure.
Family Viewing Is Hard Now
SPEAKER_00Ooh. Okay, that made me think of I started watching the Americas. Next top model docuseries. I keep seeing it on Netflix. You gotta watch it. Did you watch that show? I did. I did too. I loved it. Now that was early 2000s. Yes. So that was when we were full grown. But well, you were probably still uh early 2000s.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was in college with the show. Yeah, yeah. And then when I first got out of college, it was still on.
SPEAKER_00I loved that show. I was obsessed with that show, and oh my god, I've only made it through one and I couldn't stop watching it. So I think I may have to watch some more of it today. There's a little I think there's like three parts.
SPEAKER_02Okay, we'll have to watch it.
SPEAKER_00You need to watch it.
SPEAKER_02That was on the WB, right?
SPEAKER_00It was on UPN.
SPEAKER_02Oh, UPN. Okay.
SPEAKER_00There's a very interesting story about that. Okay, all right.
SPEAKER_02I'll have to check it out. Anyway, guys, go watch it. I got that one right. Good job. Good job. All right. What do you think? One more each? Yeah, my turn to answer.
SPEAKER_00Okay, hold on. Let me see.
SPEAKER_0224. Am I?
SPEAKER_00Okay. Oh, this is a fun one. Okay, good. You might be able to guess this one. Yay. What are the three colors in MTV's original logo? PS, go listen to our MTV episode that we did back in the I don't remember when that was, but it happened Sunday.
SPEAKER_02It happened, just search it up.
SPEAKER_00She just tried to look at the card. Oh no, it did not.
SPEAKER_02I looked forward.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do a clip and y'all gonna see her eyes.
SPEAKER_01Okay. She went like this.
SPEAKER_02No, it's just listening.
SPEAKER_00If you're just listening, go to the YouTube because the OG MTV logo.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I I feel like it's way more than three. I just see like neon.
SPEAKER_00Just the original though. White? White is not a color.
SPEAKER_02So that didn't count. I mean, it is, but it's like a is it yellow, red, and gray?
SPEAKER_00You were so close.
SPEAKER_02What is it?
SPEAKER_00Yellow, red, blue.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Okay. I see it now.
SPEAKER_00Because the yellow was the M, the red was the TV, and the blue, I think, was the outline.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. So I was seeing the yellow and the red in my head. I just didn't know what the background was. She said white.
SPEAKER_00Clear. Culture.
SPEAKER_02Transparent. All right. Okay. Um, I don't know if you'll know this. So this would be interesting for me to know. All right.
SPEAKER_00If I know. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Who was the main boy in the animated series Pokemon? What was his name? Oh, Ash. Wow. Uh Double or Nothing. Okay. What was his last name?
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_02It's a funny last name. I don't know. It's a pun. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Catch him. Oh, I should have known that.
SPEAKER_02Ash Ketchum. I think you still get a point for this.
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SPEAKER_00I the only reason I know that is because both my kids were obsessed with Pokemon.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
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SPEAKER_00Pokemon.
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SPEAKER_02Pokemon. Yeah. Alright. Ash Catchem. Catch them all. I should have known that. Catch them all. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you guys for tuning in, and we'll be starting our boy bands series next. Woo! And if in the meantime you want to listen to another great series we have going, it's the Dawson's Freaker Watch. I think I have a career radio ahead of me. Because I'm just so good at these segues. Add to your list of jobs. You know? Radio DJ. I was just thinking I need another one job. Are you serious? Well, no. Okay. Financially, yes. I mean, time-wise, no. Um, and we will see you next time, guys, on the location in between. Bye.
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