Dawson's Creek, S4 E11 & E12: Fireworks and the Witter way

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Chapters

• 0:00 Costumes, Wigs, And Setup
• 2:50 Titles, Tao Talk, And Episode Summaries
• 3:40 Dawson Likes Gretchen; Pacey Bristles
• 6:50 Drew And Joey Locked In The Cellar
• 10:50 Hot Tub Scene And ’90s References
• 15:30 Grams, Mr. Brooks, And Joy Vs. Sorrow
• 20:30 Gretchen’s Ex And Questionable Lessons
• 25:10 Decoupage, Editing Software, And Nostalgia

Transcript

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Hello, listeners, and welcome to our nostalgic or problematic series, where we are re-watching Dawson's Creek season four. And today we are watching episodes 10 and 11. Right? Yes, 10 and 11 of season four. Sorry. Yeah, awesome. We are dressed in costume. If you did not listen to our other episode and you're just seeing this on the interwebs, yeah. We are in costume because it's almost Halloween. It's almost Halloween, and we dress up for every recording session in Halloween. In Halloween? In Halloween? In Halloween. I know. In Halloween season. I have a funny story for you that I meant to share on the other episode, but we're gonna do it now. So we both have on wigs today. I'm always in a wig and a costume. That's just the way it goes. My friend Justin was like, Danny is always here for a wig moment. And I'm like, absolutely. Yeah. One day when my hair finally does all fall out, which will happen because it is thinning and by the decade, I will wear wig, a different wig every day. So the wig I'm wearing today is my Scarlet Witch wig, but I used the last time I wore this was when I went to the Renaissance fair. Okay. Yes. And I guess I did not properly groom it. Usually I groom the wigs before I put them in storage. Wig girlies know what you're supposed to be doing. And I guess I did not accurately do it because I had a little too much mead at the Renaissance fair. And this thing, this is why I was a few minutes late this morning, was a mess. Oh my god. I was it was sticky. Oh because it's really long. Yeah. And uh I was like getting knots out. I had to cut some. Like, you guys, this wig was rough. So that's your PSA to groom the wigs before after you wear them. Don't put a wig in storage. And I told Katie that I got onto her about that when she handed me her wig. She sure did. For uh when we went to Gaga, they were in her storage for her um studio. I was like, girl, no, this is not how you store wigs. Uh-uh. It was a whole thing. It was a tutorial, and I was I was happy for it. But your that one looks good. Yeah, this one looks good. Yeah, this one looks good. But you know what? That's a good quality wig. Mine is not. But right. This one's pretty good quality. As long as I store it, right? It should always look like this. As long as it's a good quality wig, you still have to take care of wigs. Of course. And listen, if y'all are performers out there and you don't be taking care of wigs, and then you're a wig person, they're gonna be mad at you. Yeah. Don't be all willy-nilly throwing your wig around. I agree. Okay, so you said you have your Scarlet Witch wig if you're just listening. Oh yeah, and Katie. I am a I am in a wig a la Taylor Swift reputation era. Yeah, it's good. So it's good. Yeah, it's good. All right. So Dawsons, here we go. Episode 10 is called Is this Tao of Tawson? Tao of Tao Tao of Dawson. What does that mean? Because the next one is Tay of Pacy. It's what does that mean? Good question, but it's like an Eastern, it's definitely an Eastern belief system that has to do with like different ways of living your life and putting kindness out in the world and that sort of thing. But why did they name the episode this? I don't know. Okay. Cultural appropriation for an episode title. Whatever. For two episode titles. Two. Yeah. All right. Want me to read the summary? Yeah. Wow, we're getting a slow start on this. We had coffee too in between. What is happening? Okay. I'm gonna drink this while you read the summary. All right. Pacey tries to disrupt Dawson's efforts to woo his sister. Drew's mischief ends with him and Joey locked inside a storage closet. Okay, so first of all, our regular episode we recorded today was Blair Witch Project, and we talked about how scary it is that like human nature to be like lost or trapped. Oh, for real. And then I watched this Dawson's where they're trapped in a freaking cellar, and he's like, it's like Friday night, and he's like, I don't know, the cleaning people come Monday. And I'm like, oh my God, I am like getting freaked out by all this. And also my wig is doing something weird, but continue like uh yeah, okay, so I realized, remember how I said on one of these episodes, like this was the season I kind of dipped in and out when it was on in real time. Yeah. I don't, I kind of must have dipped out for a while because I don't remember these episodes at all. Okay. And I'm wondering if it's because I did not like Gretchen. Yeah. And Drew, I don't like Drew either, right? And I was just like, You're like, I'm not stopping what I'm doing to go watch this at this exact time every Sunday night. I do think this, I mean, I was in college, and this was probably when I started stopping watching it, like mostly as a whole. But uh yeah, so this felt like a brand new. I didn't know what to have. I didn't remember anything in this episode. Oh, you didn't? Okay. Okay, so I don't have tons of notes for these two episodes. I don't either, but one of the first things I had is when that opening scene, right away, Dawson's telling Pacey how he feels, excuse me, how Dawson likes Gretchen, and Pacey goes, but do you like like her? Which I thought was funny. And he said this isn't the Wonder Years. Yeah, so there was a Wonder Years reference, and then there was a Say Anything reference when he talks about the boom box, like all within like 45 seconds. I know. I thought that was really cute. I loved The Wonder Years. We all know that because of my Fred Savage obsession. Uh I loved that. She's not Winnie Cooper. Um I wanted to be her. What did you think? I I thought it was good that Dawson was being up front. And Dawson's reason. He's like, well, you know, you and Joey kept it for me, knowing I'd be upset. Here's my thing: this is what I don't get. Wouldn't you want your sibling to date someone you trust and care about? Yeah. Like, I never get that whole like stay away from my sister. Um, wouldn't you rather your sister date? Well, I know that they're like friendship is weird right now, but like date your best friend than date some rando around the corner. I guess it depends how well you know the person and if you like the person. But that's what I'm saying. But in Dawson's case, he he seems like he would be a model. Would you rather her be in Dawson's hands than some that fucking guy that they go see? That made me so mad when Pacey was like trying to like not knowing the story and trying to get her to like hook up with the city. Also, that's very Victorian. That's so gross. Like I was like, Pacey, she said she wants to get away from him as quickly as she can. Why are you shoving her his direction? And that guy, I was like, wasn't he already a guest star? He looks so familiar. He really does, but I don't know. Did you watch this on Amazon? I was hoping you'd have X-ray fax. Yes, but I I didn't look for that. I'm sorry. Because I was watching it on Hulu because of free again. So Okay. But I already bought the whole season on Amazon. So it doesn't matter if it's free on Hulu. I already paid for all of it. We'll have to look. But he did look well. Next time you watch it, you'll forget. But he doesn't come back. But I was like, I swear he was already a guest star. Just a cheerleader girl. Yeah. That was Henry Henry. Shelley. Was that her name? Yeah. You remember that because you used to be called Michelle? Because that's my nickname. It all comes out. Um, yes, I do. Um, oh, and then in that same scene, Pacey says, No, Dawson, sisters are like mothers, but pretty. What? I thought that was funny. Yeah, I mean, of course you don't want your mom dating your friend, but your sister, like, I think it's like around the same age. Like, I just think that's weird. Like, I think you if it's somebody you like, if it's your best friend, I wouldn't you rather that? I don't know, whatever. I know. It's it's weird. Okay, I don't get it. Let's talk about that party and they're just randomly sitting in a hot tub. Nobody else is in it. Like, why was that scene there? So funny. Like, why didn't you? And it's really cold out. I know, and the writers were like, let's put a hot tub. Why? Couldn't they just sit in chairs? And it's just the two of them in the hot tub. It's so weird. It was really strange. I thought that was weird too. Oh, I did say that Dawson in his baseball cap, super cute. Okay, the last two episodes, he's in a cap a lot. Yeah. What's going on there? I don't know because when he's not wearing the cap, his hair looks normal and fine. Like I was like, he's not growing anything out. They just were like, really cute. We're gonna throw him in a baseball cap. Yeah. You like a man in a hat? I do. Okay. I think too, because my husband has so much hair, I like when he wears a cap because I can just see his face. Oh. So maybe it's similar with Dawson. It's like because his hair is like so much a part of like the look and the vibe that when you don't see it, then you just see the face. I don't know. He's a good looking kid. He's a good-looking kid. Well, you know, Troy has like the the people, Troy's whole family, like it is a combs family trait. They have ginormous heads. Oh, but they're also very smart. So I don't know if that is it's gotta be related. It's gotta be. No, I'm serious. They all have giant slings, which even my kids, as small as they are, like Caden is is tall, but he's thin. Cooper is is still short. He hasn't his growth yet. They have the ginormousest set heads ever. So like they don't wear a lot of hats, or they do, but it's hard to find ones that fit their giant heads. And like Troy in the past couple weeks, he's tried to order hats online. No, like it just doesn't have to try, they're just too small for Halloween. He needs a top hat. Well, we cannot find one that fits his head, so I have to make one out of poster boards. I'm not kidding. God bless. I know, and they don't look like they have giant heads, like they're not walking around like Funko Pops. It's not noticeable, no, but I think the difference between like a normal size head and like one that's like bigger than normal can be slight. Oh yeah. And and it matters because you don't fit all the normal things, yeah. But like you said, you're not like a bobblehead walking around, but it's like it does play into like what you did say Funko Bob. And then I said bobblehead. So I guess that was me. It's the same thing, but anyway, same thing. Well, I liked his baseball cap. It's cute. I already said I didn't love how Pacey was not on Gretchen's side. And then yeah, see, look, I said that hot tub. That hot tub. What is that about? Just a smiley face, because I was like, what's going on? What is going on? And then um being locked in the cellar with Drew. But then I said, good job hitting Drew when he tried to kiss her. Seriously. And then he's like, I tried to save your life to Joey because she fell or whatever. And he caught her. Oh, and I don't know if you caught it, but they showed part of a computer screen where Dawson's editing some of his footage. Did you see like the software he was editing in? I don't know why. I just wrote that down. I was like, okay. Because it just reminds you what when that was. Yeah, exactly. Uh, and then when uh Drew tells Joey that the bus boys that she's mean and the busboys call her El Toro.

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That was really good. I mean, she is kind of mean. I wouldn't be offended if they called me that. But girls kind of have to have that guard up because you have stupidest idiots that try and kiss them, like right, and then she punched them in the face. I was like, Yeah, you should you should think of her like that. That'd be better. Right. That's like a scary bowl. I put I put more painting this time indoors. This time indoors. Like they are forever painting. What are they doing? The baby's room. Are you talking about the baby? Oh, the baby's room. Yeah, yeah, him and Jack. I I thought you were talking about um Grams and Jen and their decoupage. Oh, okay. Let's talk about decoupage. I went through a whole phase where I did so much decoupage. Yeah, I don't think I've ever done it. Oh my god. I don't know how I avoided that during that era, but I did. You know the era until I do. Well, also, I love making things, and I'm pretty good at certain things making. And I went through a phase where I was making all I even sold some stuff. I used to make wreaths, and like I would also this is so stupid. I when there was a phase when Etsy first got popular. I had friends that made custom tutos. Do you remember when little girls would wear the fabric and tool custom tutus? And I would um do like onesies for them that had like little tie, or not what it was a tie, it was like an initial, or before people had like the big fancy cricket machines. Right. So I would like with my sewing machine hand sew on like all these little things for them. Anyway, that that era of my life was when I did decopage. Awesome. And I had all kinds of like picture frames of like and that's what they were doing. I think they were doing picture frames. Yeah, I know that was really cute. I know, and the whole thing about Mr. Brooks is like, I guess we're supposed to believe term he's terminally ill. Yes, and Dawson goes to tell Grams, and Grams is like, I already know. Yeah, and I really liked what she said about that. Yeah, she had a line, I didn't write it down, I wish I would have, that was like, a moment of joy is worth a lifetime of sorrow. Yeah, it's like a line, one of my favorite lines from Steel Magnolias is along those same lines. Shelby says, I would rather have a moment of wonderful than a lifetime of nothing special. I love that because I don't want her because she's pregnant and she's not supposed to have babies because of her her diabetes. And anyway, yeah, so yeah, and I just thought and I love how everyone's like being so protective of grams, it's kind of fun, and her hair down, her hair's so cute. Well, you know, she was not as old as they made her be when they filmed this, and you kind of noticed that in this episode when it is down, yeah, and her dress when she wears that pretty dress, she's like, I hope it's not too much. It's like a floral print dress. Yeah, she's like, You don't think it's too much, do you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. That was really good. Uh oh, okay. And then when they're at Gretchen's exes, and they had the whole hot tub thing, and then Gretchen and him go upstairs, but like she decides to like stop the whole thing. Oh, yeah, right. And so then she's talking to Pacey later, and there's like this whole little corny part where she's like it was kind of odd. So it was giving season three in the writing. Yeah, I was like, this is horribly written. Like, I get what they're trying to say, but not good writing. She's basically like, girls look to their brothers to show them how to be treated. And I'm thinking, no, they don't. No, they don't. Like, please, I had only brothers, and no, I mean, maybe like subconsciously, but like my like traditionally, brothers don't treat their sisters that great. Right. So, like, what? And then, and and vice versa, you know, simply just like just don't. Yeah. So I thought that was weird, but the whole point of it was like, thanks, Pacey, you helped me learn a life lesson. But then I wrote down, so Pacey gets credit again. I know. Like, she has a moment where she realizes this is not for me, but somehow we still give the credit to Pace. She made the right choice in a moment, just own that. Right. Why does it have to be? But I get it, she was trying to kind of say to Pacey, like, thanks. You know, we're we're seeing their camaraderie growing, but I just the writing was not it for me there. I didn't like it. That's all I had on that one. Well, I put I put ooh, college guy room because oh yeah. How many I it was accurate, it was so accurate, it was so accurate, like gross. You like can like feel the like the gross and the smell of the incense and oh incense mixed with fast food, like oh no, no, and cigarettes because they were having a party. Um, okay, you know the whole love letter situation, yes, and you know he wrote it when he was a kid and never gave it to her. I'm like, and then she eventually got it. Yeah, I'm like, see, that was what I was envisioning when I was a kid, writing all those love letters. Writing all those letters to your crushes that one day when you actually got together in the future, you could be like I knew. Yeah, I think that's really cute. Um we're on episode 12. Episode 12 was his day of Pacey. Yeah, and it's his birthday. Yep, here's a summary Joey's surprise, birthday party for Pacey amplifies long-simmering emotional tensions in the Witter family. How come we take in all the way midway through season four before we show some uh Jane Lynch is his mom? Come on. I already know. What? Why would we be hiding Jane Lynch till now? I love her, I do too. She is so I just the Christopher, um, what's his name? The one that does best in the show, Christopher Guest. Is that his name? Christopher Guest. God, she's so funny in those. I just yeah, she's so good. And in fact, before we see her, because I was watching on Amazon, I saw her come up on the little column, and I was like, oh my god, Jane Lynch is in this. And then you hear Joey say, Yeah, your dad will be there, your mom will be there. I'm like, Pacey's mom's gonna be at something, and so then it clicked. I was like, oh, his mom's gotta be Jane Lynch. Yeah, but then there's like all these children everywhere, and it was a little confusing. That was his other sister and her clients, his wife. So it's just like nieces and nephews, I guess. But it was just like all of a sudden Pacey's gigantic family is here, and we're in his house. Like, we've been in Joey's house, we've been in Jen's, we've been in Dawson's, we've been in Andy and Jack's, yeah, and we've been in Doug's apartment. Right. Literally never been in Pacey's house. I guess that's part of it though, because I want you to see why he's never there. Okay. I'll give him what I mean. I'll give him back. And then and then I was thinking about it too, because like I remember as a teenager, like I remember as a kid and a teenager, like I stayed out of my house as much as I could. I mean, I didn't have that kind of situation, but it was it was tense. Uh, and I was like, that's probably why they show it like that. Although it was weird, it's like the middle of season four, but then but then I was like, yeah, I mean, I was never home. Like, weekends come, I would I would spend a whole weekend at a friend's house. Like, I was just I I didn't, I did not, I did not enjoy that. Like my house was not a a place of refuge. Got it, got it. So I think that's what they want. Yeah, and they I guess they've done it, but like we couldn't have had a glimpse before now. Yeah, like Jane Lynch couldn't have shown up to the school or something. Come on. Um okay, oh, so actually, I think this was the decoupage I got ahead of myself. But when Jen is having the safe sex talk with Grams, but I just love when Grams pretty much shuts it down. She's like, I already know all this. Like, calm down. Don't talk to her. I'm literally uh an elderly adult. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I got it covered. Also, we're not doing any of that. What are they worried about? She ain't gonna get pregnant. No, not gonna get SCD. Right. Probably. Well, I don't know. I mean, what do they say about the village is true? It's like the highest per capita STDs in the whole nation. True, true, but you don't know what you don't know what Albert Brooks be doing. You're right. You don't know. You gotta be careful, you're right. Um oh I put you, Toby. No, because Toby's in this episode. Who is Toby? Oh, I forget his name every time. Yeah, the one who doesn't want to be friends with him, he's a jerk, and then she's like convincing him to come to stuff. Super weird. Like, and then we're supposed to believe that he's being mean to Jack because he likes him, which maybe he is, but it's also a liar. He like made up a whole fake boyfriend, yeah, who had a um poet, laureate, lesbian mom. Like red flags all over the place. Oh, I didn't like it. Also, I put why is Joey upset about Dawson and Gretchen? That's weird to me. I yeah, I don't like that. It's weird, it's weird, it's weird, but then she does kind of give Dawson good advice about it when she's like, that's just the witter way, because they're like this and they're like this, so don't be upset. And she does make him feel better, yeah. Kind of like learn from me. Oh, yeah, because she's such an expert. You know what I'm saying? I know, I'm just I just but I just like why are you trying to be so upset about it? Like, I'm with you on that. I am with you on that. Um, oh, and this is toward the end, so we can always loop back if I'm skipping too far. When Pacey and his dad, I said another doc heart to heart, but it's a different doc now, and it's at night, and he brings him a coat, which was kind of cute. And I love the line where he says, Oh, I got you the firework. Because when they give him like the fireworks for his 18th birthday and his other gifts, they're all kind of like bleh gifts, like lackluster, especially for turning 18. They weren't personal, they weren't personal, so he thought. So we thought, and then we have the moment where the dad's like, When you were 10, I got you the fireworks and he's like, and you were so happy, and that made me happy. So then you're like, I get why he got him fireworks now. Um, but I just thought that whole scene was really nice, yeah. Well, and I feel you feel like I put poor Pacey, as always, like you just feel so bad for him, right? And Gretchen's trying, I know. In her defense, she's like, Oh, when when he like defended me against that bully, and then someone's like, Oh, remember when he set the house on fire or whatever it was. And it's just like keeps going back to like he's such a doofus, he's so stupid, he's so clumsy, and and it's not like because we've seen his dad do it, we've seen Doug do it a little bit, his brother, but like you're seeing the whole picture of like how he sort of pigeonholed as that person, like you said, it kind of makes you understand why he's not there that much, right? Or why he didn't feel like he could be a good student or whatever, because you know, we all get viewed certain ways in certain spheres, whether it's our family, our work, um, our hobbies, whatever. And so, like to feel that way, like everyone views me like this, even though I'm trying to be like this, especially when you're literally just turning 18, you've been a child till this point. I I think like that was powerful. I think. Yeah, and I think Joey's um Katie Holmes's acting and all of that was really good. Oh, yeah, because you could see just the horror on her face, like what the heck? What the fuck? Yeah, and he was like, I've been telling you. Yeah, that's why I didn't want to do this. I've been telling you. I get her, I also understand like as the girlfriend trying to facilitate the birthday for everyone because it's his 18th birthday. Well, her his mom called her and asked, yeah. So what are you gonna do? It wasn't her idea. Yeah, what are you gonna do? She was like, uh, okay, right. Like, uh the only other thing I I wrote was home fireworks stress me the fuck out. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them. And the way that they had it, uh, the camera set, did you see that like line that was going through? I know it was like bistro lights or something, but that was freaking me out because they look like they were popping right by this power line, and they kept sh like panning back, and I was like, oh my god, get the get the power line out of the shot. I hate home fireworks. So that's mostly because yeah, a nurse as a mom. I heard horrible stories, and then we had a we had an accident happen that we weren't even doing anything. A firework hit Caden because one went crazy that our neighbors were doing, and he was far, far away. That's really scary. And it hit him in the leg as he was like four. Oh and he was by our front door, like he wasn't even like nearly. No, he wasn't even like I mean, literally, so as far away as you could be and still be outside. That's nuts. It was wild. So I hate him. I don't like them. I don't I don't even spray well. So there's that. So even if you're like quote unquote being responsible and being safe and paying attention, you can't control what they do sometimes. Also, I hate like people in my neighborhood be setting them off on holidays, and you know, the cops look the other way because how are you gonna go get everybody in trouble? You can't, you can't enforce it. And I was so irritated whenever the last time there was fireworks, it was July 4th. The next day, because you know, we have a pool and we have like a um cage thing, there was ashes everywhere. That's gross. And I'm like, that's also scary because like you're gonna light my house on fire and I'm not even like you're not even participating, yeah. Well, I I when I would run early in the mornings, I would I stopped going down to the beach on July 5th because I would just get so upset because it would just be trash. Trash. Yeah and that's turtle season, yeah. So like they don't even want you like digging a little hole for your sandwich. Yeah. And we've just got like all this plastic everywhere, and you know, like they they explode into the water, and I just get so upset. I get so upset. Yeah, and people spend so much money, they do, and I just think it's so wasteful. That's my personal opinion. Y'all want to opinion? You can have it. You can't tell me it's not wasteful. There's nothing you can say wrong. Yeah, and if and if you are okay with that, then uh oh it's okay with waste, then go for it. Please don't do it at the beach during turtle season because I will I will say something to you. Please don't. That was very calm. I was I was thinking I will say something. I will say something to you. What that something will be. TB is very calm. I have I have no more notes. I don't either. What do I have here? Another doc heart to heart. I already said that. So that's it. Yeah, sometimes we'd be talking a lot on these, and sometimes we'd be like, done. Nah, it's fine. They were okay episodes. They were okay. Like I said, I I think they advanced the story pretty well, but nothing really too crazy or in depth to talk about. All right. That's it. That's what I was saying, guys. This is short one. But uh hopefully you enjoyed it. Blair Witch was long, so it was maybe you're listening to them back to back, and it's uh over two hours of content if you do that. You were over an hour and a half for the other one. Look at you. That's a lot of us talking. I'd just be sitting here mathing all day. I'm serious. The math never stops. I hate having to math. Ugh. I'll tell you what, Cooper is in algebra right now and he's struggling a bit, and I cannot help that child. And I'm like, he was like struggling. I was like, you just have to wait till dad gets home. Like, I can't I can't help you. And he's like, Do you remember how to do? And I'm like, no, like I have not used algebra once in my adult life. Well, and the way they do it has changed so much. That's it. That like even if you show them the way you know how, they will get marked off for it because it's not the way they do it right now. Well, and the problem is, and both my kids are this, they are smart and they do math in their heads. Well, with algebra, you have to put it down because even if you get to the right answer, you're not gonna, you don't know how you got there. And you have to have proof. And so if you mess one little thing up, you can't go back if it's all up here. Right. And so then we keep telling him you have to like he'll sit there and do homework because their homework's on computer, which I hate, which with math is really tricky. I know, and I'm like, I don't care that it's not a computer, get a piece of paper out. We want to see what you're doing because on the test, you do have to do that, which he hasn't been doing good on tests because he has to show his work, right? And I'm like, I don't care if you just get to the right answer by chance, you need to understand why. Yes, but also I can't help you do that. So wait all seconds. Good luck. And Troy's like, I'm gonna start making him do a little bit of algebra every night. He's like, and maybe you should too. I'm like, no, what the hell do I need to do algebra for? I don't need to understand. Do you know how? Great. One of us needs to know, but I don't. But what but what if he's not there when you need it? You call me. What are you talking about? Well, you said one of us knows how to do it. Yeah, he can wait till he gets home. That's what happens. He was trying to work on it. I said, You gotta wait till Dad gets home from work. He'll be home at six o'clock. I can't do this. That's funny. My kids, like, I I can help them with most of their homework, but every now and then, if it's something like really advanced with math, I'll be like, Oh, I can help you. They'll be like, it's okay. I'm just gonna wait for dad. Because as decent as I I would say I'm decent at math, my husband is like, forget it, like walking textress Texas instrument calculator, like equations doing like and even if Troy doesn't remember, he can look at it for a second and then remember. Yeah, Brandon too. He can recall how to do it. I'm just like, uh, I can't, yeah, I can't either. I dumped that from my brain. And that's okay. Look, we all have our strengths. Listen, that's right. We really do, and we're gonna embrace them. Mine is not math, ours are wigs and talking at people and my hands. Like when I said, I'm gonna say something to you. I did that too. Why? I think it's because I'm excited about my bracelets. I think so. And I'm just like, here they are again. And I said, I just want everyone to see them in case you miss them. Okay. All right. Um, thanks everybody, and we will see you next time here on Generation in Between. Bye