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Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial Girl Summer: Fast Times at Ridgemont High Rewatch
In the final installment of our Xennial Girl Summer Series, we talk about our thoughts on the 1980's teen classic, Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
From Cameron Crowe's writing to Amy Heckerling's directing -- plus ALL of the stars in the making on screen -- there's a lot to discuss.
The film served as a launching pad for so much talent – Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Judge Reinhold, Phoebe Cates, Forest Whitaker, Nicolas Cage, and Anthony Edwards all appear in early career-defining roles. Which character is your favorite?
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Hello everyone and welcome to Generation Inbetween, a Zennial podcast where we revisit, remember and sometimes relearn and rewatch all things from being 80s kids and 90s teens. We talk about all of those fun things and we're on the last episode of our Zennial Girl Summer Series Last one the summer has gone too fast. No, I'm so glad it's over. We're on the last episode of our Zennial Girl Summer Series Last one the summer has gone too fast. No, I'm so glad it's over. Almost it's been a lot. This summer has not been a breezy summer for me, so I'm glad. But this was our last thing.
Speaker 1:We did four movie rewatches and four book rereads of 80s and 90s. Most of our stuff was 80s, I think. Yeah, I think so. I mean, obviously, american Pie was 90s. I think all our books were 80s or 70s. Yeah, because Judy Blume's were in the 70s. Yeah, and then movie wise, I think, three 80s and one 90s. Yeah, I think so, yeah, so the interesting thing about our generation for those of y'all, if you're new here, being a Zinial means you are a sandwich generation and you were kind of stuck between, like, gen X and Millennial. So, like, things from both generations are relevant to your human development, right, right, and your cultural zeitgeist, like when you were coming of age. So this one, we, this movie, is part of more Gen X? I would say I think so. Yes, yeah. But I think it's still relevant, because I remember watching this on cable TV all the time. I never saw it in its entirety, like with the bathing suit scene and everything, until I was, like in college, and I haven't rewatched it in a really long time. And when we sat down to rewatch it, I was like jarred, because I was like I think the foundational memories of this movie are what I saw on cable TV, right? So I didn't see all the nipples and it's probably not the like things that the movie is known for as much, right, which are those things that you wouldn't see on cable, right? So we'll get into all of those exciting things.
Speaker 1:So today we're going to talk about Fast Times at Ridgemont High. I've got some background info, some random trivia. The last few times I did this, I was super organized and, like I would, I collected trivia and then I organized it and then I put our show show notes, not show notes, um, what do you call it? Like your outline, yeah, script. Like my notes that I took while we were I was watching. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, okay, I didn't do that this time, so it's just a hodgepodge craziness. So that's okay, we just gonna talk about the background.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is the one I watched too early. So it's been about a month since I watched it and this morning I'm like, oh yeah, I watched it, like I'm good to go, and I'm like, hey, siri, can you give me a summary of Fast Times at Rib Schmott High? And I had her read it to me because I couldn't quite remember. I remembered it but I was like, but what was like the core plot? I wasn't sure that's hilarious. Yeah, so before we get into it, have, did you watch this back in the day or is this first time you saw it? I've definitely seen pieces of it. My husband likes this movie and he that's part of the reason I watched it early because he was like, oh, you guys are doing that one, I'll watch it with you. And I was like, yay, let's watch it today. And it was like way before we were going to talk about it. So I've seen it. When he's Guys, siri thought I was talking to her.
Speaker 1:I never use Siri because it doesn't understand me and my Look at that. Oh, because you said, hey, Siri, but your phone, see, your phone shouldn't respond to my voice, right Weird, that is crazy. Well, part of it listen, part of that is because it never it doesn't know what your voice sounds like. I don't ever use that. I hate that stuff. Y'all know I don't use AI, I don't use voice stuff. We don't have an Alexa, and that's why because you never know that. Shit's always listening. It's always listening.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I've seen parts of it, but never the whole thing till recently. Yeah, okay, this'll be fun to talk about then. Yeah, I can't wait. All right, so let's do a oh wait, we have to tell them what almost happened today. I need to start wearing a dash Like. What are those called the cameras? A dash cam, a GoPro, a GoPro? You just start wearing a dash cam. Are you a semi truck? Are you okay? Are you a police car? What's happening? I need to wear a GoPro so y'all can see head on the looks that Katie gets me Like when I say something that I just think she's going to know what I mean and it's the best. Okay, y'all saw half of it. What almost happened today. I listeners. I also would like to know Someone tell me, okay, okay, okay, about the research for this.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I remember. So now I will tell you. So now I will tell you. So yesterday I had like basically up until we were meeting today, like just back to back to back to back stuff, because y'all know why, not even joking, like seriously, no time for anything. And so I was like, oh my gosh, I think I'm supposed to be doing the research for Fast Times at Ridgemont High and I had some already started, I guess from when I first watched it. So I texted her and I was just more like reiterating to myself like in my brain okay, you have to get this done. I was like, hey, I'm going to keep working on this, I'm going to finish it. And she was like, oh, I've like done hours of research on it already. I thought I was supposed to research it. So long story short. Good news I didn't have to find the time to do that. Bad news we both did some research. Oh, it's so funny because we like this.
Speaker 1:The funny part to me is that we plan this out like detail wise in person and then we do it over text because we forget. We write it down, we put it on social media. Well, not who's researching, but like the order, we write down who's researching and everything, and we still one of us manages to be like am I doing this or who was it? And then so, but I mean, I remembered this one because you did, because you did American Pie, right, so OK, but I think you got thrown off because I did forever. Last week you did that's exactly, and it just happened to be back to back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because what we said was that I, I did more of the research for these because a lot of them you didn't know Well, so I was like that'd be weird for you to research. I mean, yes, I guess I would get, I guess to know it. But right, like I'm saying yeah, yeah, anyway. So so we almost had, these hours of research are here. My five minutes ish might come into play if I saw something that she has in her research, which she probably did. But the funny thing is, like when I say hours, I don't mean like nonstop, right, because you have to start in it, because it does take a while, even though, like you, we present this information in like 20, 30 minutes and then we chitchat. It takes forever to dig through internet to figure out what. And then, of course, I get distracted and I'm like, oh well, let me read up on this guy that has nothing to do because it like is linked up in IMDB or like, or you spend like 20 minutes trying to find Somebody's name that you know, like, whatever. Anyway, I actually did that For Dawson's Creek today I don't know what book, oh, but every time I was like I'm excited to hear about it, oh, what's this?
Speaker 1:You'll see, okay. But I like went on many research rabbit holes and I even realized it until I'd done it like six times. And then I was like, what am I doing? Wow, I really wanted to know the background on several things. Okay, well, we'll save it, we'll get to that, save it. If y'all want to know it, you gotta turn it in turn in. You gotta tune in season three, episodes 16 and 17, 17 and 18. I don't know 17 and 18 something, but for now let's get to fast times at ridgemont high. So for and 18. I don't know 17, 18, something, but for now let's get to fast times at Ridgemont, okay. So for those of you that don't know, I'm going to give you a quick summary A group of Southern California high school students would rather ignore their studies and instead indulge their teenage distractions. Yep, I love that.
Speaker 1:So this movie came out in 1982, which is why I said it's more of a Gen X, but plenty of us in the Zennial slash, millennial, have seen it, because it has become a cult classic. Um, and there are so many famous people in it, like so many, so many. Um, I found out some really fun things. So, again, no particular order, but it was written by Cameron Crowe, who also also wrote other Xenial classics like Say Anything, singles, jerry Maguire and Almost Famous Yep, so that's my husband's favorite movie, almost Famous. I could see that so good. So it makes sense that he also enjoys this movie. Yeah, he's the same writer. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And then it was directed by Amy Heckerling, who we already talked about because she was clueless. And look, he's talking movies. So just to remind y'all there, what I did not know is this movie is based on a nonfiction book. Did you know this? I think that was like one of the first things I saw. So I did not know this.
Speaker 1:Um, so while Cameron Crowe was employed as a freelance writer for Rolling Stone magazine. He actually went I don't want to say undercover, but that's kind of what he did. He spent a year, a whole year, embedded at Claremont High School in San Diego. He actually had school administration approval to do this. This is weird to me, right? It would never happen nowadays. Yeah, never, never, never, never. So he could gather stories for a book. Um it's it's entitled fast times at ridgemont high and um, it came out in 1981, is when it was published, and then this movie was made in 1982. Okay, so it's not exactly the same and we'll talk about some of the things they changed, but it is based on a real life school and real life characters and people.
Speaker 1:And was the book like a journalistic book, like we're taking a look at the teenage culture of the day? I don't think so. I don't know. I didn't. I don't know. I know it's nonfiction, so maybe that makes me think. Yeah, like, that was probably the whole point. Yeah, it's to kind of like give a image of, like, what that life was like, whether it had to do specifically with southern california. Yeah, you know teenagers or teenagers in general, or drugs, or drinking or sex or whatever. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Real life account. What is it? Yeah, what is first hand account? First hand account, first hand accounts of high school back in the day, uh, but I just thought that was cool because I don't know how. I never knew that after. But whatever, I don't know a lot of things. That's why we're here. That's why we're here and Katie's staring at my screen because I don't know what's happening. I don't know. This is what happens when Danny resources, resources, we stopped. We stopped.
Speaker 1:We used to print out. This was before we were on video, so you wouldn't have seen it, listeners. Oh God, it was so ridiculous. But we used to print out our notes, but sometimes it would be seven or eight pieces of paper each Because of the print size. And then we would Because the print size, the font was so big and we were just like why are we doing this? And then we couldn't like in the moment, like change stuff, and you would print it. And so we were finally like look, and everybody's like why did it take y'all so long to figure that out? Yeah, we were like let's just use our devices. That's why sometimes I'm like on my phone.
Speaker 1:It's probably pretty clear in the video that I am looking at my script and not, you know, making doctor's appointments. But I don't think it's a script. Yeah, it's just a my notes, my outline. We're like, um, you know, uh, what news people that have their little, yeah, yeah, but they use teleprompters, oh, so they use scripts, true, okay, well, anyway, so we're not like that, we're not like that, anyway, like them, obviously. Y'all can probably figure that out, okay, so this was first time director amy heckerling.
Speaker 1:It was her first big shindig, um, and she said she was seeking to make a comedy that was less structured than conventional ones, um, which she said she was seeking to make a comedy that was less structured than conventional ones, um, which is why she was kind of attracted to being part of that. She wanted to make it more like american graffiti, okay, which came out in 73, so this is prior to gen x. Yeah, okay, um, and she said so, she wanted to make it less structured so that if quote you woke up and found yourself living in the movie, you'd be happy. I wanted that kind of felt, the kind of feel, ok, I don't know, I'd be happy. It depends which character you are Exactly. It took only five weeks to film, so that was interesting. After the initial review of the movie.
Speaker 1:The MPAA, which is who gives the ratings, gave the film an X rating. Okay, because what you don't see is there's a. There was a full frontal nudity scene of Damone where he's in the pool house with Stacy. Oh wow, remember when he was like get naked and get at it. Yeah, my husband and I were dying, laughing hard Like we were just like, uh, hello, okay, um. And then the other one was there was a scene when Stacy goes to get the abortion. You see her with the nurse. And then the next scene you see her just walking out and her brother's waiting of the clinic. Yes, there was a scene in between there of her actually getting the procedure. Oh, they took. So those two things they took out and then they got the r rating. Okay, so it's an r rating, even with the amount of female frontal boobies that we see.
Speaker 1:We talked about this before. I know these and wieners have different, yeah, patriarchal standards. So the that those parts were okay for the r rating, but not the full frontal pool house slash abortion procedure. Yeah, I mean, I guess is it like above the waist and below the waist? Maybe, maybe, yeah, but wasn't it porkies where we could see all of the women. Yeah, True, and that was our. Oh, you're right, see again, only wieners. Well, yeah, maybe things below the waist that dangle, I guess. So, for some reason, I don't know. So, okay, something I was very concerned with when we were watching this was how old everybody was. I was like, so stressed about that because Jennifer Jason Lee looks so young. She does. I will.
Speaker 1:I am here to tell you that the people who made the movie were intentional to only hire people 18 and up. Okay, awesome. Now, the girls are still quite a bit younger than the guys and I'm going to tell you their ages in a second. The only person who lied about their age to get cast was Nicolas Cage. Okay, and he was 17, going to be 18. But they didn't find out he was 17,. So after they filmed it, and for his character, it doesn't matter that much. Well, right, but I mean the material in the movie. Well, he actually auditioned to be Brad, right, but I mean the material in the movie. Well, he actually auditioned to be Brad. Oh, okay, so it would have mattered. It would have mattered. Now, I don't know if maybe that's, maybe they found out and then they were like right.
Speaker 1:So let's talk a little bit about the cast. I'll tell you how old they were and I'm just going to tell you some little tidbits about them, mostly Xenial movies that you would know them from if you don't remember. So, first and foremost, sean Penn, who I think is the best character. He's so funny In the whole, he is hilarious and I was like, as we're watching and I'm sure this, I can look this up and I forgot, was his Spicoli voice the inspiration for Crush the Turtle and Nemo? Oh, maybe, because they do sound really alike, like if you close your eyes you could see a sea turtle smoking a joint. Yeah, I got fallen out of VW van Go with the flow. Yes, there is.
Speaker 1:So this was actually his second movie. His first was Taps in 1981, where he played a military cadet, and then he was in a lot of movies in the 80s. He even was in I forgot about this a movie in 1986 opposite Madonna, who he was married to at the time, called Shanghai Surprise. It got horrible reviews, I remember, do you remember? I don't think I've ever seen it, but I just I've never seen it and I don't think I really want to. But I, number one forgot he was married to her and number two forgot they did a movie together. But the 90s is really where he kind of hit his like big movie star groove and he was in Carlito's Way, dead man Walking the Game, thin Red Line, and then in the early 2000s he was in I Am Sam and Mystic River.
Speaker 1:Interesting thing about Sean Penn he's been nominated for Hella Academy Awards because he's also a director and a writer and producer and all the things. He has been nominated five times for best actor Wow, but he's never won. No, has been nominated five times for best actor Wow, but he's never won. No, he's won twice. Oh, he won for um, mystic river and milk, okay, okay, I love mystic river, I know that's one of my favorite, so good. And then the other three he was nominated for that he didn't win was dead man walking, sweet and low down. And then I am Sam Okay, but he was so funny and I have a lot of tidbits about him later because he's I'm just going to go ahead and say some of them.
Speaker 1:He is like a known method actor, like that is what he is known for, and even even for this movie he would only let people address him as Spicoli. He changed his dressing room door to say Spicoli. I read that he did a lot of improv with Mr Hand and, like would intentionally do things to annoy the actor playing him, just so he would keep him, like, irritated, even when they were off camera. Wow, that's dedication. That is dedication, yeah. And I also read Amy Heckerling said in an interview once that you know the scene I know you haven't watched it in a few weeks where where him and his friends fall out the car at prom and there's like, oh yeah, she said they were really smoking marijuana.
Speaker 1:Oh, look at me, I sound like old lady. They're really smoking marijuana. It was really enjoying. Oh my gosh, I'm an old lady. Um, but they were, they were really high in that scene. That's awesome, which I think is hilarious. Again, probably could never happen nowadays with laws and all the things. Yeah, I mean probably not, but maybe I mean they're all adults. I mean you know they can do what they want, all right.
Speaker 1:So, moving on to Judge Reinhold, who played Brad, he was, um, he was, oh, I forgot to tell you sean penn was 21 when they filmed. Uh, judge reinhold was 25. Okay, um, a few of the guys were 25 and they kind of looked 25. Yeah, I would say he looked 25. Yeah, he's actually been in over 75 movie and tv roles. Dang, wow, right, that's so many. Um, here's some of the zennial classics. You would know his face from Stripes Gremlins, who he was also in with Phoebe Cates, yep, ruthless People, beverly Hills, cop 1, 2, and 3, as well as Santa Claus 1, 2, and 3. Okay, so he just kind of hops on those franchises and just keeps coming back. Smart man, super smart, smart man.
Speaker 1:He's appeared actually in two films that have been selected for the National Film Registry by Library of Congress as being culturally, historically or aesthetically significant. I don't really know how you decide if something's aesthetically significant, but whatever. Maybe it's the cinematography, like the camera style maybe. But the two of those two films are Fast Times at Ridgemont High and then Beverly Hills Cop. Wow, look at that. That's really cool. I mean, that'd be really cool as an actor to be like I was in two movies that have been like recognized as like kind of being like a slice of life at the time. Yeah, they're talking about. Yeah, also, I read a really funny quote of his that said this movie he had his first sex scene, but it was with himself. Yes, true, I mean, that's awesome. Can you imagine like being like, oh, okay, you're going to go in the bathroom and he's like, great, cool, it's like, whoa, okay, so much fun. I mean, jason Biggs, yeah, same, same. I'm sure that was his first sex scene. Same, same, same, same, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:And then we have Jennifer Jason Lee, first of the two girls, who plays Stacy. She was 19. Okay, and I thought she was younger than Phoebe Cates, but they were about the same age. Okay, she was in a lot of TV movie roles and TV series, but this was her first lead role, okay. And then in the 90s she kind of hit her leg flow. She was in Backdraft, which I forgot about. I forgot about that movie. Single white female is what I remember her from. Dang yes Ugh Gave everybody roommate anxiety forever and ever. She was in Dolores Claiborne. And then she was in the Hudsucker Proxy, which is a great movie I recommend everybody to watch.
Speaker 1:Um, she is the daughter of Vic Morrow and this is actually really sad. He was in the twilight zone movie and he died while they were filming in a helicopter. Um accident while they were filming it for the movie. So the helicopter scene was in the twilight zone movie and so he died on set. Yes, yes, Wow, that's terrible, that's awful. Yeah, super terrible. We need to rewatch that movie during the Halloween season because they have a lot of lore that surrounds the filming. It's kind of like you know how they say, like the crow was cursed. Yeah, kind of the same thing for this one. And Poltergeist. I would say Poltergeist. I was going to say Poltergeist is another one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she gave birth to her first child at the age of 48. I just threw that in because y'all Stop, can you imagine? Well, there's still time for us, not your first child. No, I'm not doing that. Not time for me. I was just wondering what you were going to say. She's like I was setting you up, yeah, 2010,. She had her first kid at 48. All right, you go girl, I'm all here for it. If that is, you know, if your body can do it, I'm here to support you, but never in my life would you do it. Nah, my body does not do birth well, anyway. And like the older I get, my body doesn't do regular life well, right, cannot. And like the older I get, my body doesn't do regular life well, right. So so to put so much stress on your body? Yeah, from a non-regular life perspective, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, anyway, I just threw that in there. I was like this is not relevant to anything, but I'm throwing it in because maybe I wonder if she just I mean, who knows, maybe she didn't want to be a mother and then just decided late and late she did, which is great, or maybe she tried and couldn't, or you know any of the reasons like, ok, good for her, yeah, so anyway, props to you, girl.
Speaker 1:And then we have Phoebe Cates, who played Linda, and she was 18 or 19. I've seen it two different places. Ok, whatever, I think maybe she was 18 when they filmed, 19 when it released. Who seen it? Two different places, but whatever, I think maybe she was 18 when they filmed, 19 when it released, who knows? But whatever, she was over 18, thank god, because both of these girls take their clothes off with men who are in their 20s. So, yes, anyway.
Speaker 1:Uh, this was her second movie. She was in paradise in the same year as fast times. She also had extensive sex scenes in that movie, which made me question was she 18 then? Yeah, because if it came out around the same time you said, yeah, I mean. It says she was Okay, yeah, probably. But I mean I can't imagine starting your career off at 18, because she used to model, okay, obviously. And then here you go. First big movie, big old sex scene. I've never seen it, so I don't. I haven't seen that one either for it, but anyway, uh, also, she was in zennial zennial movies. She was in private school. She was in gremlins one and two. She was in shag.
Speaker 1:Do you remember that movie? I don't think I've seen it. It's so good. I forgot about it until I saw it. And then I remember there was one summer they used to play it on like USA or something, all the time and I would watch it. It's so good. And then she was in Drop Dead Fred in the 90s. Have you seen that? Yes, I have. That's a rewatch we need to do. That's a good one. I remember going theater to see that silly movie. It's so good, it's so silly, it's good though. Yeah, it's really good. So she actually started taking classes at Juilliard at age 10. Okay, at age 10, 10, she was dancing and then she had a knee injury and that forced her to stop, and then that's when she started modeling. Okay, well, that's not a bad backup plan.
Speaker 1:Something interesting I found out about her is her and Kevin Kline got married in 1989. Oh, and they're still married. What I didn't even know they were married in the first place. I didn't even know they were still married, right? Huh, I bet they're a good looking couple and I bet now, yeah, but she seems older than her, even though I don't know how much older. Why did I not look that up? Maybe you're just thinking of like him now. Well, and her from the movie we just watched? Yeah, probably Because people imprint in your brains in the time frame. I mean, I don't know, maybe he is a lot older than her, but I don't think so. But anyway, yeah, I was like, wow, they're still married. That's pretty cool. You go guys. Yeah, it's like Goldie Hawn, leon and kurt russell still together, yeah, for all these years, but they never did get married. They never. They said that's why they're still together.
Speaker 1:I read something that they aren't together anymore. Oh, they're not. Oh well, I retract my statement. But like they still are, like really good, like get along and like grandparents. I, I look, I will someone fact check me. Do we love how we just always say stuff.
Speaker 1:And they were like wait, is that right? That's true, I'll look that one up while you keep going, alright, so also, we had our friend and listener, anthony, tell me that the scene where she takes her top off out of the pool is the most paused scene. Oh god, oh no, like VHS tape wise, in like the real time frame. Oh my god, how would you know that you could gauge that on like YouTube? Oh no, like VHS tape wise in like the real time frame. Oh my God, now, how you gauge that? How would you know that, like you could gauge that on like YouTube? Right, and I don't know.
Speaker 1:But honestly, I asked my husband. My husband was like, as soon as that music starts, that Cars song, mm, hmm. And I looked at him and I said is this where you hit pause, like right, oh, that's hilarious. As soon as her top comes off. The funny thing is I didn't remember her top actually coming off, because I told you I watched it so much Right On TV and I was like, oh, like you actually see full on boobies. I forgot that same with jennifer jason lee and the dugout which we'll talk about. Oh yeah, yeah, that okay. What do you find? Um, it looks like they are still together, oh, just never married. Okay, my bad, they've been in a relationship for well, I'm the one that said they broke up. Oh, yeah, you, yeah, you're bad, my bad. Relationship for over 40 years, but they've never been married. So I thought I had read something that said they broke up, but I must not have. Doesn't say Okay, well, there you go. Fact check on recording. Yeah, on block. All right, so moving on.
Speaker 1:We're moving on to Brian Backer, who played Mark Ratner. Okay, he was 25 as well when they filmed. This was his second movie. He was in the horror movie the Burning in 1981. He had some random stuff in his filmography. Notably he was in Police Academy 4. Okay, in 1987. And then he was in the movie Loser in in 2000, which I don't think I ever saw. But anyway, the most interesting thing I found out about this guy was he won a tony award in 1981 for um best actor in a featured role in a play, for woody allen's play, the floating light bulb. Huh, never heard of it, so I think. And he did go back to the theater and do some things, but that's about all I got about Mr Brian backer here. All right, brian.
Speaker 1:Um, then we move on to Robert Romanis, who played um Mike Damone, who I had a huge crush on when I used to watch this. I don't know why, cause I watch it now. I'm like he is skeezy. Why did I know he's not cute, he's evil? I mean, his behavior is terrible. That sounded mean, but like, like, exactly Like. He's not a character that I'm attracted to. No, it's not even looks based. You're allowed to think he's not attractive. I know that's okay, but let's say it statement.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, uh, he was also 25, also looked it. Yeah, I think that he looked older than everybody else. Yeah, I feel like the guy playing mark didn't really look 25, he looked older than high school, but like judge reinhold, and this guy looked 25, oh, definitely 100, um, so he was kind of like um, he had way more success in the tv realm, okay. Okay, he was on Days of Our Lives for 51 episodes in 1983. Jeez, that's a lot, yeah. So, after this movie. And then he was in the TV show Fame in 1984 for 10 episodes, okay. And then he was in Facts of Life in 1984 for four episodes. He played Natalie's boyfriend Snake. Oh, my God, I love it, which you could just envision. I could totally see it.
Speaker 1:Um, he moved to LA, originally though to be a singer, and he worked as a singing um bus boy and a restaurant for a while before he started acting. Yeah, I thought you were going to say bus driver, also fun, which you could do out there. Uh, eventually, years later, he did form a band called Papa's kitchen Cute. Don't know if they're still together, but he's still acting today. He's still in some things here and there. So he's still, and he still looks the same. He looks older, but I feel like he's very identifiable, agree. Um.
Speaker 1:And then there's also lots of notable actors and supporting roles. There was ray walston, who played mr hand, vincent um schiavelli, who played mr vargas, oh yeah. Then there was forrest whitaker, of course, who played charles jefferson. Eric stoltz played one of the stoner friends, as well as anthony edwards I saw him. That so funny. And then we already mentioned Nicholas Cage. But also, interesting thing he did not go by Nicholas Cage at the time. If you look in the credits, it's Nicholas Coppola, because, less we forget, he is Francis Ford Coppola's nephew, right, and he changed his name because he didn't want that to be his. He wanted to stand on his own, yeah, which we get. We understand, totally get that, so okay.
Speaker 1:So now we're just going to move on to some random trivia. Let's do it. Random facts I found fun little things Easter eggs, et cetera, et cetera, some, some things we were talking about. So I did, or I say about the 18. Okay, this is actually really nice. According to Brian Backer, who played Mark Ratner, jennifer Jason Leigh and her family let him stay at their house for no charge until filming wrapped, because he flew down from Brooklyn and was totally broke, like he was a broke actor, so they let him live free of charge with them the whole time of filming. That's really sweet. I know, I was like that's so nice. Okay, so did you notice this?
Speaker 1:Near the beginning of the movie, troy and I talked about this, mr Hand is like passing out handouts or whatever and they all pick the paper up and smell it. Yes, do you remember this? Yes, vaguely. And Troy was like, oh my God, do you remember that? And I didn't at first. And then we started talking. I was like, oh, yeah at first, and then we started talking. I was like, oh yeah, papers used to smell different because before they had copy machines. They were too expensive to have them. In public schools they had what was called ditto machines. Yes, and it was like purpley. Now don't ask me the mechanics of how a ditto machine worked, I don't know, but it had this the ink left like a smell on the paper. Do you remember that? And as soon as we started talking about it, I was like I don't. And then I was like, oh right, so that was something I found about.
Speaker 1:Like younger people who see the movie are like what the hell are they doing? Cause they've never seen or known what that ditto, that smell, and that kind of like, yeah, I want, okay, this is totally crazy. This probably is wrong. Did it have a hand crank? Oh, I have no idea. Okay, but I think that's wrong. Why do I feel like how else would it work? You just like close something and open it, like how would it? Even I don't know. Okay, we, okay, we'll, we'll, we'll revisit that. We need to figure out the mechanics of the ditto machine, but not right now. Everyone, okay. So let's take a second and let's talk about Ray Walston, okay, okay, um, at this time.
Speaker 1:He will not at this time, but he was best known for playing uncle Martin on the TV show. Sorry, I was like, wait, my Favorite Martian, and that was in the early 60s. So for a long time because of that role he was typecast and he said he couldn't get any serious roles because everybody just thought of him as this character. So it took like decades for that to stop. So when he got the role of Mr Hand in this movie, he said when the movie released he would be walking down the street and teenagers would see him and shout Mr Hand. And he said he loved it because that means, after all, that time he finally broke free of that character. He was typecast, as that's awesome. But now he's Mr Hand, but now he's Mr Hand. But. But that's okay, because I feel like he got to do both. Yeah, that's true, he's golden. He was really funny. He was so funny. Oh my gosh, I liked him.
Speaker 1:And did I say this already? Or did I tell you this before we filmed about how Sean Penn would improv with him? You said in the episode okay, you said he would like deliberately annoy the actor. Yes, so that there was like a genuine annoyance relationship dynamics. All right, I did say that. Well that you heard it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I can't remember, like if we talked about that before we hit record. It's true, and we really should just start hitting record, even if it doesn't all go on the air. Like we had a good talk about haircuts before we turned on the mics today, and then we're like man, that we should have recorded that. Well, I guess you guys will never know what. We had a good talk about haircuts before we turned on the mics today, and then we were like man, we should have recorded that. Well, I guess you guys will never know what we had to say about haircuts. Well, sometimes we do hit record and then we have some. Sometimes we do Because I get good social clips from that pre-show. You sure do Pre-show, the pre-show must be recorded, okay, so moving on.
Speaker 1:So they filmed a lot of this in a mall, right, which, oh my God, that opening scene, love, that was really good. It just brings you back. Man Tori and I both were like God, we miss that, like the mall culture, like the whole mall scene of the 80s and early 90s, I would even say. But the mall scenes Lord get it together, mouth, uh were shot during the night when the mall closed at nine 30, obviously because they can't film it during, cause it was a real life working mall, um, and they would film overnight from nine 30 to when it opened in the morning at nine. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they would go the whole time, but can you imagine the pain in the ass of, like setting up to film and then taking that all down, and then up goes the business, and then you do it again? Yeah, oh, you can't imagine that. I kind of can Well, not to the same extent, but yeah, but yeah, on a bigger scale for sure.
Speaker 1:Um, the funny thing was that there was a scene in the beginning where Damone is scalping tickets to those two kids. Well, they were under 18. And so, due to labor laws, they couldn't film past a certain hour, so they only had 10 minutes to film the scene with all the younger kids he sells tickets to. Oh my gosh, I love that, because I'm guessing it was probably like they couldn't shoot past 10 o'clock or something like that. Well, you know what's funny.
Speaker 1:One of the notes I did take on this when I was watching is I was like why is the mall so dark? That's why and they did say it's like evening, because they're like going to the movies and stuff. But I was like man, it's like a nightclub up in this mall. Well, because there's no daylight coming in, they probably had skylights and all that stuff. But yeah, there you go, there we go. Um, so while we're talking about the mall, let's talk about a product placement that has become a classic item that has still remained popular to this day because of this movie, I don't remember. It has to do with spic, okay, and he hits his head with one of these, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Vans, oh, the checkerboard vans, yes, they this, they God. What is wrong with me? Today we're filming. We forgot to say we are filming in the middle of the day today. We did forget to say that we don't usually do this. We usually film in the morning or at night or at night, and middle of the day is weird, it's weird, and night gets a little weird too.
Speaker 1:But this is like, yeah, it's very odd in between, and life is happening so much by this time of day, doesn't it always happen? It does so much like by this time of day it does. But I feel like if we start at like 8, 30 or 9, it takes until lunchtime for everything at least a snowball in my life to get so gigantic. But when we started at like 12, 30, yeah, and like we'd already done, my dog groomers calling and people have emails I'm thinking about that. I need to reply to you know. So it's just like the more things have happened in the day by now.
Speaker 1:Right, that's true, but anyway, so this van's place they, they decided to place the shoe in this movie and it is that shoe is still their number one seller today. Wow, because it's still it's, it's still remained relevant through every decade. Yeah, it's a cute shoe and it's supposed to be for skaters. Yeah, for, like, skateboarders. Is that the point? I think so it's part of skateboard culture. I think surfers as well. Okay, yeah, I think it's like both. Maybe, I don't know, I'm not a Vans expert, so don't come at me guys. I've never worn vans. I wore converse. I still wear converse me too, but vans never, not because I don't like them. They just not my never have. Yeah, but anyway, that that's fun. It's capitalism at its finest, but it worked.
Speaker 1:So, uh, another piece of mall trivia is um, the mall they filmed this. Did I say which mall it was? It was the sherman oaks mall. Okay, no, you do okay. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1:Jennifer jason lee actually worked at perry's pizza before they started filming. Stop, yes, so she's from that area. No, she did it for the movie. Oh, I'm sorry, like okay, I thought you meant like in general, she worked there like in her life, but for like a genuine portrayal, got it okay. I was like okay, was like okay, girl, so she's a little bit method too. Yeah, okay, I don't think I would do that. I'd be like I'll figure it out. Thanks, like I can figure it out.
Speaker 1:But I mean, but the mall was for those of y'all who were not around for mall culture or were too tiny to understand, that was the place to work. That was the place to work, that was a place to hang, like you want, and like he even says it, like they reference it, like oh, I'm not on the happening side of the mall, cause he works at the, mark Ratner works at the movies and he's complaining to Damone and he's like everything happens over in the food court. Yeah, it's true, right, and it was hopping, like, in addition to saying oh, it's dark in there there and it feeling like a club, it felt like a club based on the sheer amount of people everywhere and young people and the energy of the mall. Yeah, and all those people are in there. I know it's just it's. It's so fun to relive that. And I mean I have a feeling Like I feel like where is happening with like watching TV and stuff.
Speaker 1:I feel like we're eventually going to have a pendulum swing back to like cable right, because we're already kind of there. When you first we first started streaming Like you couldn't stream from a lot of places. Now you pay for 80, a hundred streaming services and people are like, wouldn't it be great if you could just pay one flat fee and watch all the things? And I'm like that's what cable is, could just pay one flat fee and watch all the things, and I'm like that's what cable is. Yeah, right, that's hello. I think we'll eventually take a little swing back, just like malls have been dead for a while. But I feel like, because everybody is into this nostalgia, we're going to take a swing back.
Speaker 1:My, I took my four girls to the mall yesterday. They love going to the mall. Girl, that Melbourne mall is popping all the time, all the time, any time of day. It's not even a great mall? It's really not. It's really nice, it's fine. It's just because there's not as many experiences like that now, maybe, but like, okay, so here comes the old lady. They don't open till 11 in the morning. It's so dumb, the old lady. They don't open till 11 in the morning. It's so dumb, that is nuts to me. And they close at like six or seven.
Speaker 1:Well, do you remember when we showed up for our JCPenney photo shoot? We got there and we were like, we were like in our outfits, waiting by the door to be let in. It was giving, like us waiting to buy tickets or something. We were just sitting there and it was Halloween and all these people we were with the old people and they were like, do you remember? They were like trying to look, not look at us. But then, but it didn't matter, cause it was Halloween, and I just thought, yeah, I think, I think everyone gave us a pass Cause it was Halloween. We would have worn it anyway Any day. It just worked out. But I did and spotted it was a whole thing. But, yeah, like I, I'm always just like yesterday, like I'm like, all right, well, I need to take you guys, let's leave it like nine. I'm like I guess we'll go through what y'all do.
Speaker 1:We thrifted first, which was good, we got a few things, and then we went to ross because they opened at like 9, 30 or 10 and you went with all four of your girls at the same time. Now my older teens, then they'll branch off oh, okay, mostly, and then my three oldest. They would take the the 13 year old with them sometimes too, if they were nearby so I could be with the younger one, like trying stuff on her, and then we meet back up. And you know where we met back up again the food court. We all got us some some lunch and had it out.
Speaker 1:I gotta say the food court there disappoints me. It's not great. Uh, I I'll take that back. Some of the places are great, um, but yeah, I wish they had more. I know variety. Do you know what?
Speaker 1:Remember we went for a photo sheet and we ate that greek place and it was so good, so good. So I went back, cooper, we did like a mall birthday thing. They did a mall selfie scavenger hunt, which was it? It was cute, but, um, I go and get the Greek stuff and it was terrible. What it was not good. The same place that we were Same place when it was so good. Same exact food. It was horrible, but I ate it anyway because I was starving and everything's so expensive. And so I was like well, and so I texted Troy and I was like ugh, because that's one of our pet peeves is when we spend so much money on food and it's not what we were expecting. Yeah, and it happened. It happened to us this weekend.
Speaker 1:We went out to a restaurant and we were starving and we ordered like we both ordered something that had like lobster in it, like a sandwich, and then something else and his was not good. Well, it was fine, but it was like he was like expensive. He couldn't stop thinking about it for like two days. He's like I spent $26 on that and it was mediocre. Yeah, and I'm like that's the worst Because we don't eat out a whole lot. So when we do, even if it's like something stupid like McDonald's, if it's like not fresh and it's not what you want, it's so annoying, oh, totally Totally. And it's not what you want. It's so annoying, oh, totally Totally. So I was so sad, I was like, well, shit, I could have just gone and got like crappy sandwich french fries situation and enjoyed it more. Yes, yeah, anyway, that's too bad. All right, moving on from that Talking, let's swing back. So I told you my notes are all over the place. We're just flopping all over the back. Here we go.
Speaker 1:Um, phoebe Cates, notorious, uh, bikini scene where she whips her bra off, no bathing suit, my bad, uh, it was actually filmed at a private home, okay, and um, and the West hills of California. So even though, like I said, she had scared neighbors were going to see her Because she wasn't inside like a studio, right, she was outside. I mean, at first I was like, well, hello, 80 bajillion people are going to see you. But I guess it's different when it's been edited than just some rando Mr Neighbor guy like peeking over his window, yeah, so anyway, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:And there was something else I was going to say about Phoebe Cates. Oh, I think a lot of straight males of our generation and some non-straight females, phoebe Cates was probably their first crush. It was my husband's, it was our friend Anthony's. Like she is adorable, so cute, and like I feel like she's not traditionally pretty in the way that, like you would expect, especially from that time she's got the darker hair and her facial features are a little different, yeah, and like her skin tone is a little darker and like so, yeah, I think, but she's beautiful features are a little different. Yeah, like her skin tone's a little darker and like so, yeah, I think, but she's beautiful and adorable, like you said, adorable, okay, I love her voice too. I know, I like her voice.
Speaker 1:Something that bothered me about jennifer jason lee that they should have fixed was her hair. The whole time I was like why are they doing this to this poor child? She has great hair, she has naturally wavy hair and they would brush out, and it was just like a poof and it was bad. Yeah, it was bad. That was the style. No, it wasn't. But compared to like Phoebe Cates, which was like and they have different hair types, but like it was like nice and smooth, yes, and like just very shiny. They had a couple scenes where her hair was like curled. It looked so much better, but it was just like, oh God, I was like please help that poor girl out. Like why are you doing that to her? Anyway, that bothered me. That was a random thing.
Speaker 1:Um, so another famous actor that got asked to play a part in this movie that turned it down was Fred Gwynn, who played Herman Munster. Oh, okay, and he turned it down because he said the teenage sex and drug use was just too much for him. Okay, he said no, and that is fine. Absolutely, you're not comfortable with the content or being part of it. But then I was picturing him as Mr Hand also would have been funny, so funny, would have been funny. Oh my God, I mean, yeah, okay, so funny. Oh my God, I mean, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So here's a little bit about remember. I told you this was a book. Now it said it was a nonfiction novel. But I thought a novel was fictional. Yeah, it usually is. So I'm confused here on that, but like a fiction novel or a nonfiction book, I don't know. I'm going to order the book and I'm going to let you know. We're going to find out.
Speaker 1:So in the book, whether it's a novel or not, spicoli dreams. He's singing Highway to Hell by ACDC on the Tonight Show. Okay, all right. When Johnny Carson was the host, okay, but when they were filming the movie, johnny Carson refused to do it because he did not agree with the movie content. And other talk show hosts also turned it down, including david letterman at the time, surprising. Uh, letterman actually, apparently, was willing to do it, but his agent wouldn't let him be in a movie where the characters did drugs because I didn't want him associated with that. Okay, so well, that's what your agent's for in this place. Of this scene from the book in the movie is the scene where spicoli is um with the surfboards and the two hot girls being interviewed by the newscaster. Oh, it was a sports announcer. Okay, sports announcer. Yes, yeah, so that's what they replaced it with. But I'm like him singing highway to hell would have been hilarious, so good, but that's what's in the book. Okay, that's like a dream sequence of him in the book.
Speaker 1:So, another real life piece of trivia in the book Mr Vargas the science teacher. The science teacher was based on Claremont High School teacher, george Jones. He actually did keep a lot of animals in class and we saw him in the movie like snakes and beehives and bats and all this weird shit. Again, guys, this was the 70s, 80s, right, and he would actually regularly take students on weird, not normal, field trips. Okay, so they would go to sewage treatment plants. They would watch surgery on pigs at the University of California, san Diego. Wow, so the scene in the movie where they go to a morgue is not too far off. Wow, I mean, there's some forensics classes now that you would do that, which sort of makes a little more sense for a specialized forensics class than just a general public high school science class.
Speaker 1:Did I ever tell you I haven't had a story, this whole show, have I yet? Well, I have one now. Everyone gather around, let's go. So let me tell you a story about when Danny was in high school. I, I've, maybe I've told this, if I have stopped me, and you know you have to dissect a frog, like I think your sophomore year Sounds right.
Speaker 1:Okay, did you do it? Yeah, okay, and I was determined not to do it. Okay, for animal rights purposes, sure, and I did not want to do it. I did not want to do it, and my teacher his name was Mr Trigg I was like I'm not doing it, and I was like I had this whole argument planned out. I was like I should be able to do this, this, and that I even. I was like I should be able to do this, this and that I even. I was like this is what I could do instead and he was like no, he's like. And he I remember him rolling his eyes at me and being like, yeah, you still have to do it. And I was like on my hill, ready to stand my ground and he said no, so I ended up having to do it anyway. So my partner just did most of it. I teamed up with somebody in the class who was not fine with it and I was like cool, I'm here, I'm picking up a scapula, I'm not touching this dang frog. Yeah, yeah, that was just where I wanted to take my stand. That's okay, you have to draw your line somewhere. I still remember how disgusting it was and I still don't think that that's right.
Speaker 1:And when you start to think about the purposes that we we being humans use animals for, it does get bothersome the more you think about it. I know whether it's something like that, and then the argument, of course, is like well then, it helps you learn more about humans and, like you know, whatever I know, there's a lot of technology now where they don't necessarily need the actual animals to get like the same lessons learned, whether it's a virtual lab or like a 3D printed something or other. You know where you don't have to. But I agree with you when you think about, like, okay, my class times, however many classes are in the country, and we're literally just using however many animals for this one assignment, it's, it's bothersome when you think about it. I don't like it. Yeah, and my mom was actually okay. She was like, yeah, stand your ground. She's like just don't get enough, like figure it out, find some other options. But yeah, um, anyway, another piece of the book, um, andy Rathbone.
Speaker 1:Another piece of the book. Andy Rathbone is the name of the real life kid that inspired Mark Ratner. Okay, okay, and this is kind of cool because the real guy became famous in his own right. He wrote he was like a technology guy I don't know if he's still alive, I think so. He wrote a lot of those books for dummies. Oh, really, yeah, like Microsoft Word for dummies, powerpoint for dummies. He wrote a lot of those books for dummies. Oh, really, remember how it was? Like Microsoft Word for dummies, powerpoint for dummies. He wrote a lot of those and got rich and famous. Good, look at that. I love that, isn't that funny? Yeah, yeah, he was originally also kind of irritated because some of the things he did in real life that was talked about in the book they didn't have his character do because he was nerdy but he also did some funny stuff. But they didn't let his character in the movie do it right. They kind of simplified his character, I guess, like he was the one who ordered pizza to class not spicoli, that really happened, but it was him. It was him. I mean, that's a more nuanced fun story. But I also get it, because when you're making a movie like this, a book, you can add the nuance, but when you're condensing it into a movie, the tropes, I know, easier, it's easier and they're funnier. You gotta yeah, you don't have as much time, no, um, something else that was fun was spicoli's dream sequence where he's like surfing and stuff. They actually filmed that after they wrapped. Oh because Because in the editing process Amy Heckerling and the producers or whatever, realized how good Sean Penn was and they wanted to give him a little more, and so they filmed that after, because without that I know, I mean, that's just such an iconic scene of him and for him I know, well, that's really cool. So that was filmed after, and then I'm trying to see Okay, so let's talk about some famous people that are in the movie and that also almost were in the movie. Justine Bateman was offered the role of Linda oh, but she declined it and instead she went on to the show Family Ties. Okay, I was going to gonna say, was that before? That would have been before family ties? And family ties was on for seven years. It was a long time. Another famous, uh cameo. There was a few famous cameos. Um, the girl in the corvette when brad's driving and he has on his pirate hat. Yes, from the the restaurant. Um, that was nancy wilson who was in the band heart. Oh, okay, yeah, okay, she was dating it. She was dating cameron crowe at the time. Okay, so he gave her a little and they and they got married four years later after that. Oh, anyway, it took him four years, but anyway, speaking of the car of cars, do you remember, uh, when mike dimone is giving Ratner his like five point plan for dating, yes, okay, and he tells him the most important one is when it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin's four. Okay, right, yeah, isn't that what he says? Yeah. However, ratner plays the wrong song, the wrong album. He played cashmere instead, oh, which is not correct. Um, the producers could not get the rights to the other one. You said it's led zeppelin, yeah, yeah, they're notoriously difficult to get music from. In fact, like I want to say again just off off the cuff, because brant and I have talked about this, because Almost Famous is one of the only movies Led Zeppelin is in. Like there's Led Zeppelin music in that movie because of Cameron Crowe and the connections, right, but they normally they're notorious for just saying no, so I'm not a Led Zeppelin huge super fan or anything. I'm looking at my notes and I realized something really stupid. It says led zeppelin ivy. Is their album name ivy or is that four? Because I just read it as a roman numeral four, you read it as four and I've only seen it written. I've never heard it said Uh-oh, google it man, google it man. I was just going to ask Brandt because he'll know, okay, we'll come back after we hear back from Brandt, because I read that as four and then I'm like, wait, is it IV or is it four? Right, and all you Led Zeppelin fans out there are like, oh my God, you dumb moron Listen. I'm so moving on to another thing before we hear back from Brant. I hope he answers you. I think he will, but we'll see. Okay, so some of the actors, like I was saying, who had auditioned for this movie that weren't in it Ralph Macchio, matthew Broderick, meg Tilly, michelle Pfeiffer, lori Loughlin, elizabeth Shue, kelly Preston, rosanna Arquette, carrie Fisher oh my gosh. Ali Sheedy and, excuse me, db Sweeney. That's so many, that's so many. Yeah, yeah, wow. So lots of people, lots of Xennials, relevant actors that we were interested in. We're interested in this. He says it's pronounced four. Oh, you got it right. Okay, yay, I'm going to say yay, danny said it right. I said it right, I didn't screw something up. Look at that. Okay, so the Ridgemont High scenes were filmed over eight days at Van Nuys High School. Classes actually remained in session while they were filming, okay, and the school let students interested in filmmaking watch the production. Fun, how fun is that? I mean, it's such a cool thing that you can give your students. But I just feel like this is very much stereotyping school administrators. But I feel like most school administrators would be like it's a distraction, just like do your schoolwork, yeah, but that's totally stereotyping. Maybe every single administrator would be like this is freaking cool. Who knows, you can watch if you want Again, probably would never happen nowadays. What's interesting to me is well, I already know the answer. What is it? Okay, but what I was going to say is what's interesting to me is they couldn't film at the mall when there were people everywhere, but they could film at school when it's in session. But you know what the answer is Capitalism. Oh yeah, the businesses didn't want to be in session. Oh yeah, that's an easy one. You knew that as soon as I said it, because I was thinking well, why is it OK to have, like, the real people operating at the school but not the mall? Because you're messing with their business at the mall. Yeah, that's why. Who cares about learning? This is America. Who cares about education? Who cares about that Film? The movie Make the money, exactly, ok. Oh, another famous cameo Bruce Springsteen's sister, pamela, is the brunette cheerleader during the pep rally. Okay, I know, I just thought it was, I don't know Whatever, but I just thought that was kind of fun. It's like a fun little cameo, that's neat. Okay, this one I threw in just for you, even though I almost didn't, because it's a true crime thing, uh-oh. So the woman, the really attractive lady who plays the science teacher's wife, like in that one scene. Yes, that is Lana Clarkson and she is the woman who Phil Spector is accused of murdering. Yay, yikes. She died of a gunshot wound, age 40, at Spector's house on February 3rd 2003. Aw yeah, I just threw that in for you because of the true crime bit, thank you. I was like I'm not bringing that in. I'm like, ah, just give it to Katie. You're like now I have to. Ugh, I didn't like that. This was kind of weird and I don't know why they did this. But there are several scenes that appear only and not in the regular one. I guess maybe to compensate for all the stuff they had to take out Like timing wise. Yeah, because there's a lot. Brad meets with his guidance counselor, which I remember that, and then they have a scene of Mr Hand signing yearbooks at the prom, and then there's a story that Spicoli tells about him receiving a pick from Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones. Oh, wow, so those are only in the TV broadcast. I bet you can find them on like a DVD, like I'm sure there's like a uncut everything version. I watched it on DVD and I we didn't even look at the extras. I will, I will. I bet they're on there. Troy got it at Goodwill. He found it for like two bucks or something. Um, the the movie actually had a brief tv series in 1986, same name, called fast times, and it was produced by amy hackerling. Okay, and it only lasted seven episodes. That's funny because clueless. Same thing I know now. They did have a few cast members in it ray walston as mr hand, uh, mr vargas was vincent schiavelli, um, and they were the only two to reprise their roles. Oh, okay, so none. I thought they were more, but I was wrong. Only two of them. You're like there were many. It's these two guys. I was like, oops, as I'm reading, I'm like I should not have two, is not? That's okay? Um, that's all like my random okay bits. Let me see what else. Which was a? See, that was ours. You only had a few notes. Yeah, oh, brand said it can also that album. It can also be called Zozo, but that's more hardcore fan stuff. The most common way people refer to that album is for Okay, tidbit Love, that. I don't know what any of that means, but, guys, we've got a few listeners out there who know what that means. Okay, I already said why is them all so dark? We, we covered that. Oh, I wrote, I wrote this too, okay. Okay, we'll get to that. Let's talk. Um, I said smoking section at the movies. Oh my god, I said that too. Smoking's upstairs, smoking's in the balcony, or whatever. How I remember. I remember smoking sections In restaurants, in movies, in malls, on airplanes. Hello, you're recycling All those places, you're recycling air. Okay, so if we want to know why people like of certain ages have like health issues, y'all got to remember everywhere was an ashtray, everywhere, until, like when the early 2000s yeah, I mean when I was in college. I remember smoking in restaurants still. Yeah, I mean, I was a server at like a Denny's and there was a smoking and a non-smoking section. I worked there in college. Oh, yeah, so early 2000s, the world was an ashtray. Yeah, and like this argument that the smoke wouldn't get to you, I guess it's because you're not in the cloud of the smoke, but the thing about smoke is it, it's in a contained space. Yeah, like I mean, and it was so funny in restaurants, it's just like movies. It'd be like smoking sections to the right, not smoking to the left, where you can still smell all the smoke flying over and it wafts over. Oh, yeah, yeah, nasty everywhere, ew, um, I just said forest whitaker. I love him. Oh, I know, that's it. Okay, he still looks exactly the same. I know he has gray hair and that's it nowadays. Yeah, he looks. He looks a lot the same. Okay, the carrot blow job. Okay, here we go. Okay, because you had that too. I, I mean, I could see what was coming when they were eating these giant carrots. Okay, why did they have a giant plate of a fucking garden of carrots? It was so many carrots. Troy was like why, like, who just chops on carrots? Now, to be fair, baby carrots are like not existing at the time. So if you're packing a carrot in your lunch I don't think you pack like a whole carrot why don't you still chop it up and make like carrot sticks and so many of them? I thought it would have been. It would have made way more sense to use bananas. Agree, but maybe that's what they were thinking was like the common, easy way to go, you know, but so is a banana? You don't think of banana? No, that's what I mean. Maybe that's why they didn't use bananas. Oh, they were trying to do something different. I thought you were saying, well, bananas aren't as common as carrots. Yeah, I just thought that was hilarious. But also like I can remember having those similar not with carrots, similar conversations with my girlfriends at a certain age. Yeah, on proper procedures. Oh, I feel like it's. The conversation is realistic. Oh, yeah, 100%, it was just a presentation of it. And in the middle of the cafeteria, okay, like you're going to sit there at lunchtime and just be like, let me show you how to do this. Sit there at lunchtime and just be like, let me show you how to do this. Although, to be fair, it seemed relatively true to Phoebe Cates character, which was very sex, positive and very just like me, I don't care, I'm not shy. Yeah, I mean, she didn't care and that's and that's also okay. But I was like most people probably would not be like right there, like that. But it made it funny. It did, because people saw them, I mean, and the guy's reaction, of course, was on point. Oh, of course, that was exactly that's what they were looking for. You know, I still have weird like I won't eat bananas in like public because I'm so self-conscious that people are watching. Yeah, isn't that stupid? No, it's not stupid. I mean, I don't like bananas. I know it's weird. I like most things, but I don't like cinnamon. I you don't like cinnamon. Like cinnamon and bananas top my list and it's more of like a I don't. I don't like a lot of fruit. I don't dislike fruit, but it's like I would go to a vegetable first. Yeah, always. That is very uncommon. So then if I am going to have a fruit, I'll have like blueberries or strawberries, something. I will never eat. A squishy ass, nasty banana. I will not. Wow, I will not. Who wants to go to vegetables before fruit? Man, I know, they just sound better. Ew, yeah, I mean, I like some vegetables, but I will eat fruit every time. No, that's so weird, but yeah. So I thought that scene was funny, though Hold on, though. I got to go back to this. This is bothering me. So you don't like bananas. Do you like banana flavor things? I do, okay, you just don't like to eat the actual banana, and you know most banana flavor stuff is so fake. Is it texture? It's definitely texture, oh, okay, and I just feel like it doesn't taste like anything. Maybe that's why what you feel like it doesn't taste like anything. Yeah, it's just. Do you think celery tastes like something. Here's the difference. There is a difference. You can dip celery in things. You can dip a banana in what? Hello, chocolate fondue. Okay, well, I'm sorry, most days at my house, what, I would maybe want a little snack, maybe peanut butter. I would have a banana with peanut butter if it was like ripe, firm banana, not squishy, but celery. You can have ranch, you can have caesar, you can have. So you don't, but you don't actually like celery. You like the dip that you put the celery. It's the same with carrots and same with salad. I like the stuff I can put on it. So you don't actually like vegetables, you like condiments. I mean, I'll eat vegetables plain too, and I will not eat a banana ever. She's very, very against bananas. That's like. That's like one of my favorite fruits. Okay, and you know why it's so good? Because it's got the carbs, it's got the um, it's such a good energy boost and I love peanut butter. Like, peanut butter is one of my top foods and I will put peanut butter on a banana and it is the best snack in the history of the land. It's not, it's really not. I do love peanut butter, but not on banana. Okay, nope, I'm not gonna waste my waste. My, I don't know what we're just gonna talk about. Okay, all right, we're gonna keep going. So the carrot blowjob situation funny. I thought it was so funny. And Okay, nope, I'm not going to waste my waste. My, I don't know, we're just going to talk about it. All right, we're done with that. Keep going. So the carrot blow job situation Funny. I thought it was so funny. And, honestly, not that I mean, girl, if you're a male out there or not, because people of all genders give low jobs. Oh, blowjobs, oh, absolutely well, thanks for your confirmation there. If you're a person out there who wondered if people really like talk about that, like, if you're not a person who gives the blowjobs, you're only a receiver of one, let me, let me put it that way um, who knew we were going this way? People really do talk to their friends about how to properly do it. Oh yeah, I mean, that was. That was a realistic conversation. Maybe not in the lunchroom, the presentation of it was a little over the top, but again, it's for a movie to make you laugh, true, and to get the reaction from the boys watching. But you know, when we read Forever, didn't he tell her how to do it. Yeah, he did. Just, don't shove somebody's head down, okay, just that's the number one rule. That's, that's the number one. I don't care who you are, nobody likes their head to be shoved down, unless they tell you to. Well, let me erase, don't assume, let me put that. Oh my God, that just okay, we're just. That's like one of my pet peeves. What's the movie with Ben Stiller? It's something about Mary. Oh yeah, and his friend. That's like the like he ends up being the crazy person. Yes, and there's that scene with his wife and he's watching TV and, you don't know, she's in his lap and she pops her head up and then he shoves her head back. It makes me so mad. You can see, that has lived forever in my brain. I was like I don't even remember that, but as soon as you started to say it, I did remember it. But you just grabbed that out like that. I hate it. Here it is. Here's the thing that bothers me. It's right here, all right. So where are we at? Oh, what'd you think about the whole dugout scene? I don't know, it was gross. Well, because even Troy was bothered. Like Troy was bothered, like Troy was super bothered. He's like, okay, first of all, he's 26. He doesn't know how old she is, I know, but still, but still, she's got to sneak out of her house and like, meet you at a stop sign, like, wouldn't that tell you? He goes, he literally picks her up, he goes in the street, yeah, and says what should we do? Let's drive to the point and go in this dirty ass dugout and just go at it and that's it. I know Gross, it was just gross all around, and I think you were supposed to not like him. Oh, obviously, correct, correct, correct, like you were supposed to be like, oh, this whole thing is not good and sucks, and this is not how, like this should work. But, um, but yeah, and here's the thing too. The reason I wanted to bring that up is because I was thinking about Stacey's storyline and I feel like for poor Stacey, like that was her first time, because she just wanted to get it over with and she thought this guy was going to be one thing, and then it was terrible, yeah. And then the next time she does it, she initiates, and again it's awful, and then she gets pregnant, yeah, like that whole pool scene is so cringy, so bad, yeah, and it's like I just felt so bad for her. She just so desperately wanted like it gave gen vibes, you know like she was so desperately from Dawson's Creek for those of y'all that don't listen, not a, not a person that we know, yeah, just Dawson's Creek people will know what I'm talking about. I just I don't remember feeling that bad for her when I watched this as a younger person. It's interesting because it's very you know how we were talking about with forever, how she wrote it, because her daughter, judy bloom, wrote it, because her daughter was like I want something where there's like an intimate relationship where no one dies and nothing bad happens. But I felt like the stuff with stacy was a little like cautionary tale it was, and a little much like it's like okay, so she had sex two times and then got pregnant, had an abortion, yeah, and then, oh my god, how angry are we. Every time I watch it I get so pissed at damone, oh yeah, showing up, oh yeah, and it just makes me be like course he just gets to keep on his life Meanwhile, like physically she could not. Yeah, I know that I mean. And then the other side of it is it presents her making the decision and the abortion and all of that, yeah, in a very straightforward way. Yeah, which is appreciated. But like I just felt like I don't know. I just felt like OK't know, I just felt like, okay, so now we're supposed to be like, yeah, oh, my God, if I go out and have sex, all this stuff's going to happen to me, right, which is not super helpful or realistic for every situation. I just the thing with that Troy and I were like this movie was more serious in parts than we remember it. Like I just it was thinking teenage sex romp, right, yeah, no, there was some serious, heavy things, I agree. Well, I've sprinkled in, definitely. Oh, I forgot. I forgot one funny thing that I noticed and we laughed really hard about. The scene of, um, what judge, reinhold Brad, reinhold Brad, oh, brad, where he's masturbating in the bathroom, yeah, and she walks in Her face was so funny. Yes, Did you see it? I did. She was like it was so crazy. And I was like I never noticed that Because she stopped. She like, oh, was it? She's like like, oh, like, oh god, it was so funny, yes, it was so good. I was like because. And then she just walks out. I, I would have walked out too. I would. I would not have possibly could have jumped in there, but I would have just been. I probably would have screamed or something like I don't know. I mean, maybe have I ever accidentally walked in on that? I would be very alarmed, yes, and I probably would pee my pants because she had to go to the bathroom. Oh okay, I thought you just meant the alarm would. But I guess, if you had to pee and you were, but also, why wouldn't he lock the door? Well, you have to suspend disbelief on that, but of course she would lock the door. I mean, actually, some people right now are probably listening. They're like, actually I forgot to lock the door one time. Yeah, that's true, that's true. It happens, I guess, in the heat of the moment, I guess. So it just overtakes you. Your hands are busy. Once you're in it, it you can't like pause and think about locking the door. I guess. I mean you could, I mean you technically could. Yes, all right, I don't have anything else. All right me either. So, okay. So what star rating would you would you give it? I still enjoy this movie. I'm gonna say five. Wow, I still. We have a good time watching it. Yeah, yeah, I'd probably say like a four. Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, I didn't think that it was like other than that thing I mentioned about Stacy and the sex and pregnancy stuff which is, which is a lot. I felt like it was, um, you know, have been fun and like funny I thought it was. So characters were really good, um, not overly problematic the whole time. So I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I thought it was still enjoyable. Yeah, uh, but you also watched this with brandt, which I did, which makes it more enjoyable. That could be it. That's probably it. Well, I mean, did it make it? I'm just answering for you. Yeah, it totally did. I mean I don't think I'd watch it again because obviously, again, because obviously I barely remembered what I had watched until we were talking about it, so it didn't leave that big of an impression on me. But the thing is to watch it with him. I had to watch it at night and my brain is like not functioning on full at like 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock at night, which is not that late, but it's late for me. But I think in the new year you, I think in the new year you're going to be at a place where you can slow down. You mean the new school year or the new year, new year, probably the new new year, it's only a few months away. I agree with you. I think you're going to get to a place where you don't have to be hustling Like you'd be hustling, yeah, and I mean that's that goes with it. That's what this stage is for my business and I'm writing a book and you know it's all that upfront hustle, that. Then you, you never stop hustling but you can like chill a little bit after a while, or you can be like me and never hustle. You hustle all the time. What are you talking about? I'm just kidding. I part-time hustle. I can't A lot of hustle right there. You do a lot, you do a lot, oh gosh, anyways, okay, well, awesome. Well, thank you for doing the research. I appreciate that Was anything I found. Something you found in your beginning of research, I feel like the parts, obviously, the Amy Heckerling stuff and a little bit of stuff about Sean Penn that you said those were the main ones. Got it, yeah, cool. A little bit of stuff about Sean Penn that you said those were the main ones, got it, yeah, cool, cool. Well, thank you for listening and watching potentially A Generation Between a Zennial podcast, and be sure you are sharing us with your friends and reviewing us wherever you listen. And we will see you next time, not on Zennial Summer. No, summer's over. I don't know what's happening for the fall. We'll see. For the fall, we'll see. We're gonna find out soon because we're gonna record next week. We'll figure it out, um. So thanks, guys, thanks for listening. We'll see you again soon. Bye.
