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Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
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Hello everyone and welcome back to Generation In Between, a Zennial podcast where we remember, revisit and sometimes relearn all kinds of things from being 80s kids and 90s teens.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was just going to say hello. I'm Katie and I'm Dani, in case you're listening for the first time. Yes and welcome.
Speaker 1:And today we are finishing something we started a couple of weeks ago which was answering listener questions, and I think we only have like four or five left in our little bag. Awesome, and I was, like so impressed with our last time we did this. What do you mean? I was impressed with the varied questions our listeners sent us Yep, and then I was impressed with our answers. Wow, I was.
Speaker 2:You're just patting us on the back right now Like we were really good on that episode, guys.
Speaker 1:Well, I Really good. I mean because we like got deep, but we were also not deep. I mean the whole wiener sandwich.
Speaker 2:True, I think we toggled between things pretty seamlessly, I'll give you that, and we weren't afraid of answering any of the questions, right? Yeah, some of them were light, some of them were more profound, so well done listeners.
Speaker 1:Well done Dani and Katie.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if we didn't answer your question on question, ask us anything. Part one we're gonna answer it today. Yeah, and I don't know.
Speaker 1:I haven't even looked at them. Oh, okay, great yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1:So here they are. That was funny. No, that was funny. So here they are. Push the mic away. It's like well, and if you're listening, sorry, no, you probably follow us on social so you can see that. I'll make sure to include that clip. Yeah, speaking of Our last episode that aired everybody was American Pie rewatch. I have gotten three messages in the past. What's today, wednesday? Yeah, wednesday. In the past two days, people saying please tell Katie it's shit break, okay, not one person yet Yet has said shit break.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not to me at least. Okay, but if you're out there, you need to tell me, because I'm getting ganged up on by all these correct people. How dare they?
Speaker 1:People have giggled a lot about that. Yeah, good. I guess it's so funny and I watched it back when I was doing clips and I was crying. I was laughing so hard. Is it like? The sheer surprise on your face when I say it. You're like what, what are you saying? I think I said what are you saying? And then I'm like what do you mean? It's funny.
Speaker 2:If y'all miss that episode, go back and listen. American Pie rewatch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, make sure you watch that Also, it was just a fun, a fun.
Speaker 2:That was fun.
Speaker 1:That was a fun rewatch okay so here we go, I'm digging into the to the bag for oh, whoops, whoops, look, look. Okay, here's a question. This is from well, I don't know their their real name. It's paula paula.
Speaker 2:Okay, her her insta is big green pen yes, which is fun, which is great because she, she's an editor okay but she doesn't like to use a red, she uses a green pen oh, that's cute because red is like oh, I like that, yeah, she's awesome, okay, that's cute. Because red is like oh, I like that, yeah, she's awesome, okay, well, that's really fun.
Speaker 1:Hey, paula, hey Paula, I keep using your green pens. She said leg warmers, best thing ever or a scourge Is that right Scourge.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what is that. I don't. She needs to green pen you well, that'd be a lot. What does that mean? Scourge is like um something irritating okay like like I think of like um, a scratch or a rash or something like that. So she's saying are they? What was the first part best thing ever? Are they were leg warmers? Great are they? Or are they kind of like irritating that they're even like a thing or were a thing?
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's interesting when something that was invented for like a legit function then just become for funsies. Yeah, because I mean, for those of you who don't know, leg warmers do have a purpose in the dance world, and ice skating too, and ice skating, and do they use them for?
Speaker 2:uh, no, I'll come back to that okay anyway.
Speaker 1:Um, they do have a purpose. I have no idea how they trickled into being worn with like jeans and the only thing I can think is maybe the dance culture of the time oh, if there were like actual dancers wearing them.
Speaker 2:Flash dance and all that, and the people were like these are fun and these are bright, or they can be anyway A way to just kind of dress up your outfit. That's what I think happened. Did you wear them? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Well, I did. I remember wearing them, actually when I took dance, like using them, like wearing them to class, which is hilarious. I lived in Louisiana. It wasn't cold guys.
Speaker 2:So you didn't really need the leg warmers, I mean no For that purpose anyway.
Speaker 1:But my sister wore them. And so when she, I remember I would borrow hers unasking, I would just take them.
Speaker 2:What color?
Speaker 1:were they? Do you remember? I don't remember. Tara fixed me on this. I want to say she had some that were like striped, like like neon like different color neons. Okay, but I I think either that was her or just you just remember that I remember image I remember from somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I never really wore them.
Speaker 1:I think I mean that was kind of before our teen Right, that was before our teen years. We were still pretty little when that was huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree what you were saying about how things are invented for a purpose. Another thing that comes to mind from our I guess more our teenhoods I was like the polar fleece vest thing that comes to mind from our I guess more our teen hoods.
Speaker 2:I was like the polar fleece vest yeah, it keeps coming back, but it made me think of that Like that is actually designed to be a layer of warmth if you need it. But instead everyone in Louisiana and Florida and California and the summer in cold places were wearing polar fleece vests because it was fashion.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, so, yeah, so it happens a lot. It does, yeah, but I would say I have no ill will towards leg warmers. To answer Paula's question, I think they're great. I have some here at the studio that we've used for different things, and I was an 80s aerobics instructor for Halloween a few years ago and I wore them.
Speaker 1:I have been an 80ies aerobics instructor numerous times, but I I become um eighties aerobics instructor Barbie Cause I have this really fun blonde eighties wig. That's fun. So, yeah, that um character of mine I'm like the Tracy Ullman show yeah First emerged when I was teaching classes living in Virginia, maybe and I would dress up for Halloween classes when I would teach, and then I was like, oh, that's fun, I'm going to wear that again. So it's been worn twice here already. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it, I love it. So you're good with leg warmers. Yeah, I love it, I love it. So you're good with leg warmers?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they're. I love an accessory, I agree. Yeah, I mean I'm okay with them. I don't think that they're the best thing ever, but I also don't find them what is the word To be a scourge on?
Speaker 2:society.
Speaker 1:I don't think that word, like me. It's spelled S-C-O-U-R-G-E Scourge. Yeah, but that's a hard. Yeah, Every time I look at that word, it just says Scrooge, even though that's wrong.
Speaker 2:It's a Scrooge? Yeah, because, like what would you? You'd have to flip a few letters, but I get that. No, I totally get that Leg warmers best thing ever or a Scrooge. I mean, that also could work. I mean, who knows? All right, awesome.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Paula. All right, Thanks, Paula. Keep using that big green pen. I love it. All right. Next one is from oh, this is somebody you know and I also only know their Instagram. Oh, okay, this is.
Speaker 2:Katie Wilson. Okay, don't tell her last name. Okay, we'll edit that out. I'm sure there are a zillion Katie Wilsons in the world.
Speaker 1:Well, that's true, that's a pretty common name, although based on what she asked.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll cut that out. Well, nobody will know.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is going to be a serious one.
Speaker 2:Yikes Y. Her insta handle is kate amadou kate amadou.
Speaker 1:That's fun. Do you know the reason behind? I don't know that one. Okay, I like it, though. Anyway, her question, which is going to be a lot for katie and I, is thoughts on 90s youth group culture, specifically purity culture and the Left Behind series. Woo. There's okay, I think we got to split this up, yeah, so let's start first. 90s youth group culture was a huge thing, huge. Were you in a youth group in the 90s? Oh, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So and youth group, in case you're not familiar with like the term of it or you're young and you've never been in these spaces usually refers to a religious youth group, right, right, like it's a group that meets for religious purposes but you're not in Sunday school because you're, like a little too old for that but you're not adults yet. So it's kind of like the fun hip stuff that you would do. So at least our youth group would have. We'd like have parties on a Friday night and we would sing karaoke or we'd all go bowling or, but it always had some. Or we'd have like a special worship service, but it was like just the teens. So it would be more of the modern music or something like that, just kind of a way for like-minded teens. And these still exist. I know a lot of kids in our area that are involved in these, but that's what a religious youth group is, and we'll specifically talk about Christian youth culture, because I have no experience in any others Right.
Speaker 1:So that's what our views are going to be on. Okay, yeah, I was in youth group. Funny thing is my, my dad was actually one of like the adult leaders that helped with the youth group at our church and he did a lot of that with my sister. He died before I got into the mix of things, um, but when I was old enough, at like the year after he died, I was old enough to start going, cause it was like middle school when you could go. So that was like a whole weird thing for me, because everybody there knew my dad in a way I didn't, and so, uh, like I just hadn't had the chance to know him yet, right, right, so that was always like kind of a weird thing. But I mean, I had a fairly positive experience with it. I made good friends.
Speaker 1:Um, every summer our youth group would go on like mission trips somewhere in the United States. We would not leave the country. I know some, some youth groups do that. Um, I remember one summer which this would never happen now, with laws I I panicked to even say we did this because we were counselors at a camp for special needs kids. Your youth group was yes, okay, we had no training in anything Right Now.
Speaker 1:We did have adults with us that were trained. That were trained Okay.
Speaker 2:But there were a lot of kids, so you were more like helpers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there were a lot of kids, so you were more like helpers, yeah. But I think about it now, like we were, I mean, in charge of these kids. Some people had to help with their like, bathing and like, and we were kids ourselves. This was the nineties guys. It was like 95. This would never happen nowadays no, never. But I was like thinking to myself, oh my gosh, like literally, these children's parents like drop their kids off and trusted us. And, honestly, it was probably one of the most memorable trips for me because it made me really like not be selfish, because teenagers are very selfish.
Speaker 2:They just are by nature. Yeah, but like you can't be selfish when you're literally taking care of somebody else for five days, particularly someone who needs more help or maybe isn't as independent as others and their needs were all over the place.
Speaker 1:I mean, there were some kids there who were hearing impaired, but there were some who are completely wheelchair bound, some who are nonverbal, you know I mean. So it was, it ran the gamut of how much assistance was needed for certain things. But anyway, and then one summer we did, we went and helped a couple owned like a ranch and they would do I forget what it's called, but it's where they use horses for like therapy it's. I think it's just called equine therapy something. Yeah, like that, yeah, and we helped them renovate their ranch.
Speaker 1:Oh, that sounds kind of like we tore down sheetrock we painted walls, like it was just like manual labor, that kind of so we did. Those are just two examples, so I felt like those were really positive things that you did, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2:But we traveled with my youth group as well. I went to the Dominican Republic and same kind of thing. There was like a group home for children there who were either foster children or orphaned, who lived there. So our troop, our group I guess, went down to help, basically just do some repairs on it. But same thing, kind of got to know the kids and do some activities with the kids. I got really sick.
Speaker 1:I remember you saying that yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was actually really bummed when I got home because I felt like I had been so excited for months to like hang out with the kids and actually make a difference. But instead I was just in like the only air conditioned room because I was so sick available for like the whole of the trip, not even feeling better on the flight home. And I came home. I just remember I don't know if you ever did this, but I would when I didn't feel good, I would lay in my parents' bed, even as a teenager, like. So I remember coming home and being in like my parents' bed for like days. They would kick me out at night and like change the sheets, but like during the day I was really sick. So I it wasn't, I remember before I got sick, though it was, it was really fun and exciting to plan for it, and just being somewhere new was really really cool. Um, it was kind of scary for my parents, though, because like at some point they called them somehow just to let them know how sick I was, because they didn't think I was they thought they were gonna have to like
Speaker 2:come down to stay with me, but they managed to like get me back on a flight and but I I was really sick, but same kind of thing. We would do a lot of community driven stuff just to benefit the community, which I think is really a positive of youth group and church culture in general. Back then and now that there was kind of a no, no strings attached was a lot of stuff we would do. We would hand out like donuts to people or we'd go sing at the nursing home or whatever, and so I think that part was really good yeah.
Speaker 1:I will say, on the flip side, I think serving communities is a good thing. If I will, I will. I will put some stipulations. If you are asking the community, how can we help you? I agree with that. The problem, you see, sometimes with groups of any kind that go into quote unquote help, is they help in the way they think they should. And I've actually heard interviews, like on NPR and such you know things like that, of communities being like, like, and I think the one I heard was an interview like in Mexico, and they were like yeah, this, this church groups comes in and repaints our walls. We don't need that. Like that's not. We need to figure out like something else, Like nobody asked us and then they leave. You know, they come, they drain our resources for five days and then they leave, yeah. And so I think if you, if you're asking communities, how can we help you? What do you need? Like I've seen groups in areas like schools are like we have kids who need school supplies and they do the backpack thing.
Speaker 2:I think they do that here. They do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like those kinds of things, we I I've seen people go like um to elderly people's homes and give rides, like they offer rides to doctor's offices and stuff like that who don't have family nearby and they can't drive. Those kinds of things I think is important and I feel like that happens a little more now where people are trying to okay, how do you need help?
Speaker 1:I can think of several projects that we did when I'm not going to throw anybody a blast, but that were just what we thought was helpful and it wasn't.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 1:It becomes more performative than that, like look at us and the walls we painted.
Speaker 2:Now we didn't really have social media back then. But if you put it in modern times, it would be like look at all these beautiful walls we painted or whatever. But meanwhile they really didn't help and, like you said, they drained resources. I mean, I've gotten to that point on a personal level, just even with my own family. I've told you this before.
Speaker 2:When I go visit my mom, when she was first diagnosed with Alzheimer's, I would show up and I'd be like okay, here's what we're doing. We're going to clean this closet and we're going to organize clothes and we're going to get the vitamins all where they need to be. And I brought you a bunch of vitamins and I you know. And then I I stopped because I realized it's the people living the day in and the day out that know what's working. They got it figured out. They don't need me coming in being like, hey, if you organize the junk drawer, everything will be way better, like they don't need that. So a couple weeks before I go now, I will say like to my dad, to my mom's caregivers what can I do when I'm there that will help you? And it can be anything from like help her, she needs to buy some more clothes.
Speaker 2:Can you take her and do it, because, like it's, hard for me to go in the fitting room with her, or or maybe you can just like eyeball stuff and know it'll fit her, when I don't really, you know, I don't. I've never dressed her before I don't dress myself like that way.
Speaker 2:So, um, or there's an appointment I've been putting off because I haven't had time. Can you make the appointment? Then take her when you're here, and that to me is more helpful. Obviously, yes, even if you have great intentions for the other stuff, that to actually have someone say to you and even here at my studio, I really appreciate, like the parents who will say I can, I've got some time this week, what do you need? Yeah, as opposed to like, hey, I'm going to do this, this, this and this, and a lot of times and I mean I will just say, well, we don't really need that. Or I'll be like, oh okay, good idea. But for someone to just say, what do you need me to do, I mean to be like can you go pick this thing up? Hey, we're looking for some things at the thrift store. Do you have time?
Speaker 2:to go look and it's super helpful. So obviously, like that's on a personal level, not on a youth group. But it's the same concept, but it's the same concept, same concept, and I think, growing up in that kind of youth group culture, I've had to undo that I have great ideas that I shall now put upon you Even if they have great intentions, which I think they did.
Speaker 2:It's taken me a long time to undo that and be like no, no, no, People don't need me just to bust through and bring all my ideas. People have their own ideas and things they need that I need to ask about. That's my responsibility and I think some of that is my personality and I'm first born only girl in my family, so there's that, but also I think some of it does stem from that youth group culture.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean because let's be real American a lot of American Christian churches have that white savior complex.
Speaker 2:So I mean yeah, so you know you can translate that to non-religious ways. Right, the savior complex in general's. You know that. You know, when I think about like allyship with other groups too, whether that's people of color or LGBTQ people, again just being like, well, I'm going to stand up on social and say whatever I want to say is is not bad and it's well-intended, but like, how can you really help?
Speaker 1:Well, you need to go to those people and ask Correct and intentions really don't matter if your impact is bad, so correct, I learned that not making an impact.
Speaker 2:Like I can say, I'm an ally, all I want on social, but like what did I really?
Speaker 1:do Correct, and I think, too, you should never. I think I've said this before you should never identify yourself as an ally. Let somebody else identify you as that. I agree Because you don't get to just say well, you know what I mean. I know it's weird Anyway.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the other side. Ooh, next part, let's talk about purity culture.
Speaker 1:Because for those of you that that did not grow up in the mid nineties mid to late nineties may not understand the chokehold this had on so many Christian. Well, teenagers who were in a Christian sphere, correct.
Speaker 2:So purity culture in a nutshell is essentially saving yourself sexually or intimately for marriage. And not only that. That like, of course, if that's a personal decision you make, obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But the culture surrounding it is that you're making a big demonstration of that.
Speaker 1:And let's not forget that a lot of the pressure is put on females because you are not supposed to be tempting the opposite sex with your womanly body in any way, shape or form. Yeah, I remember when I went on a youth trip and we were not allowed to wear like two-piece bathing suits. Oh really, uh-huh Yikes.
Speaker 2:And if we had one with us, they made us wear a t-shirt into the pool, right, which that all goes on the purity culture it does, and and still some of that exists outside the church, I mean it extends way beyond that and I think the biggest issue with that again, like what I said, if that's something you really believe in your heart, is something you want, or you're not ready to have sex or be intimate for any reason whatsoever, that is totally fine and okay and particularly when you're still growing up you know that totally makes sense. But I think it was used and still is as a form of control.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and make you feel ashamed that if you step outside of it a little, then suddenly you're not valued, you're not worthy, and that is such a small component. I shouldn't say a small component, because our sexuality and our intimacy and our intimate relationships are a big part of our lives, but the a single act is such a small component of a whole life and to make that about like now, it's your whole identity, I think, is the controlling portion which, you know, took me a really long time to be able to shit, shit. I'm still working through crap.
Speaker 1:I'm almost 45. Yeah, literally, because the thing that's interesting is the purity culture did not leave once, you weren't, once you were an adult, right, because then what was interesting is they tell you, don't think about sex, like seriously, don't think about it If it comes, if it's in a um, what were the words they used to use for it? Not an untrue thought, what is it? I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if it was like, not a, um virtuous virtuous thought, to put it out of your brain, right, whatever it is and whatever it is included in.
Speaker 1:So like don't think about it, like don't put yourself in a position, but then all of a sudden, when you're married, let it out. Yeah, uh, hello. You just told me to keep all this shit dormant and ignore it, and now I'm supposed to. It's okay, like right, and the thing that's crazy is the. The amount of shame that is forced upon you as a teen and well, I'll just speak from where I was, from a, like, evangelical Christian point of view is ridiculous. I mean you, shame drives every shame and guilt. That's just. You know your body's a temple. You know you're don't defile it, and you know that analogy that everybody who grew up in this time heard was you know, you know, um, whoever you you give yourself to, um, you're giving a gift away, right? I'm not. I'm not saying it correctly.
Speaker 2:I've worked hard to undo that I know what you're, I know what you're getting at, but then it's like everybody you have been with you, you're you're cause everything's about marriage.
Speaker 1:Right, like everything's about marriage that. Then you're like tainting yourself before you're it's like it's, it's crazy because instead of being realistic and saying yeah, hey, you're going to have some sexual desires, that's completely normal Cause. Then you're also thinking am I something wrong with me? Am I evil?
Speaker 2:Because I'm thinking about this all the time.
Speaker 1:You're a teenager, like hormones are crazy, and then you do all these youth group things where you're together with other people you're attracted to and listen, stuff happened Absolutely.
Speaker 2:But then you feel guilty and you feel shameful and it's like this whole awful spiral that can sometimes and I saw this happen drive people even further down that path than they would have otherwise, meaning like, if you feel ashamed, you're a woman and you're a young woman in your youth group and people find out about something like that, whether it was with someone in the youth group or not, then you're less likely to go to youth group because you feel the shame, or you're more likely to be like well, I guess this is who I am and sort of feel, because you're a teenager, that you have to fit the stereotype now, instead of just being like yeah, you know, this is my body and I'm a sexual being at its core and there's nothing wrong with me for feeling like this.
Speaker 2:And I would rather have a realistic conversation with someone to keep myself safe and, you know, wait to have a baby till I'm ready, or whatever that might be. But instead I have to keep it all inside because then everything crumbles of this facade that I'm supposed to have. And also I just think it's kind of gross that people are all up in teenagers like virginity conversations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that's gross.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a very personal thing, very, and I just it's different if you're a parent or an older sibling but like like a whole church being like hey, you, 16 year old, we want to make sure you're not having sex, like what Like?
Speaker 1:come on Well and do you remember the purity rings? Uh huh, you're not having sex, like, what Like. Come on Well. And do you remember the purity rings? Uh-huh, do those still exist? They probably do. I'm sure they do. Let me, I will stop our conversation for one second just to let everyone know, if you don't know this already, katie and I are not part of any kind of organized religion anymore, so we are speaking as this, as outsiders at this point.
Speaker 1:Who are outsiders that used to not be. We have left the church, so I don't want you to think we're throwing shade on you. If this is your belief system, that is your business, absolutely. We're just giving our opinion. So I'm just and how it affected us then and now Correct? Um, because I think everybody who's been listening for a while knows. I agree, we are not part of that anymore, but I just wanted to clarify. I just I feel like we need to do a whole episode. Don't you know a sex therapist? Yeah, okay, we need to get her on here, okay, and talk about sex, about Xennials and purity culture and how it's still affecting us now. Okay, I think that would be so good.
Speaker 2:I think she'd be down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that'd be interesting because I feel like so many of us who left the church or just had an evolving faith to a different kind of following have had to specifically females and specifically people way more so in the LGBTQ world that decided to stay in Christianity, because I can't even imagine how that felt. Right, I can't speak on that, but I I know I can't speak on this because I have several friends who actually got shipped to Christian conversion camps Ding, ding, guess what. They didn't work because you can't anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, anyway, we need to get her on here.
Speaker 1:I think that'd be a good episode, because I think it would speak to a lot of people, because when I tell you and then, like I said, the purity culture with the purity ring, so you would wear, like this ring on your wedding finger, right I believe? So yeah, as a promise to yourself and your parents and your future spouse, that's what it was, that you would remain pure. That doesn't mean just not having intercourse, that means intimacy past a certain level.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, do you remember?
Speaker 1:the guy who wrote a book about it. He was like this teenage guy, his name was Matthew, something or other, and he was like a teenager who wrote a whole book about it and then he has henceforth left all of that. He wrote like a whole book about purity culture, so it was like it was like for purity culture.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then he turned his back on it later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like no, I don't remember that you shouldn't even hold hands, and like all this stuff. Yeah, and then, yeah, he came out later and was like this Well cause he wrote it as a teenager.
Speaker 2:I don't remember. I've got to look it up.
Speaker 1:If people who know who I'm talking about will know. I'll look it up later, but yeah, it's. It's interesting, wow, because, listen, if you're alive, you still have time to change your mind. A hundred percent.
Speaker 1:I have been 70,000 people since I have been born Me too, yeah, yeah, and you know this purity culture. I feel like we're staying on this long time, so we're going to move on, but the purity culture stayed with me so hard. I even had a hard time when I was a young mom, because that's when I got back into church and I got back into when I was growing up. I was in a Methodist church, but when I was like a young mom, I got back into church and like a non-denominational realm and, um, I would go to like Bible studies and stuff.
Speaker 1:Again, I had very positive experiences for the most part, but what was being taught to me was to be submissive and to basically ignore my needs and what's going on in my body and put my husband's before mine, which is very dangerous, yeah, very, very dangerous. And miserable, yeah, well, yeah, and miserable, because this is what happens when you're a young mom who's exhausted and you have a husband who's gone all the time, that is the last thing on your mind right For most of us not everyone and you feel like something's wrong with you number one right and your body's going through the things. If you've never given birth, it goes through a lot so and it takes a while Actually, it never goes all the way back to normal.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, so and it takes a while.
Speaker 1:Actually, it never goes all the way back to normal Mm-mm. But what I was being told was it doesn't matter if you want to do it or not, you need to do it for your husband, for your husband, so he doesn't have an affair. Yikes, yeah, right. So even if you're miserable and who wants to have sex with somebody who doesn't want to have sex, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nobody. Well, healthy people, but I know what you mean.
Speaker 1:Healthy people, I know what you mean and mentally, healthy people do not want to have sex with somebody who is not a willing partner.
Speaker 2:Well, and then the flip side of that is, if that's what the women are hearing, then are the men also hearing that on their end? And now suddenly they have an excuse for something like an affair, that or when. Really again, it's a very private thing. It's a conversation between partners. If a spouse is upset about the level of intimacy, that is happening or the frequency, then that's a discussion and you do owe it to them to have that discussion 100%. You don't owe it to them to have to do it or whatever.
Speaker 1:But you do owe that to them to have that discussion. A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:You don't owe it to them to just have to do it or whatever. But you do owe that discussion because that's a commitment you made, but that's not something that the ladies at Bible study can dictate Right. Yeah, isn't that wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't love that. I wish I could think of the name of the book that I remember, this of the book that I remember, this and, of course, like I am not naturally a, I don't naturally succumb to authority oh, you don't say so. I it was really hard for me and I remember thinking I am awful, like my faith sucks because I can't do X, y, z, you know, like I'm being told to do this, so I guess I'm a bad right Like so again shame was like a is such a driving force?
Speaker 2:and making you feel bad for something that was just perfectly normal for you and millions of other women.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's not. Maybe there's something wrong in your body, or maybe there's something wrong in your relationship. There's something wrong in your body or maybe there's something wrong in your relationship Right, maybe, who knows. But if you're ignoring that, you're ignoring what's really going on Exactly.
Speaker 2:Right, like it doesn't fix it by doing the thing you don't want to do.
Speaker 1:And maybe you're just fucking exhausted also. But again you're ignoring what your body is telling you or your relationship's telling you like red flag If you don't want to be intimate with your partner, something's up, yes, something's going on and it could be very surface level.
Speaker 2:Oh, I literally am exhausted. I have not healed from having a child. That or it could be it could be.
Speaker 1:I have purity culture I need done do from the nineties.
Speaker 2:It could be from nine. This is all the way back to 1995. Literally though, 90s it could be from this is all the way back to 1995. Literally though, I mean, and we'll move on after this.
Speaker 2:But like I've even just the last few years had quite a journey in my own kind of like self awareness and like some of the guided things I'm doing therapy and things like that, on how much resentment I had and I didn't realize I had for objectification and not even like necessarily my husband right now, but like in general, and that really my whole life anything intimate I felt was for the benefit of someone else and for the benefit of that objectification, and I didn't even know that that was a thing.
Speaker 2:But when I was having so much resentment about it it kind of bubbled over and it did relate back to like the purity culture and do for your partner what they want to keep them, to keep them happy, late 30s, early 40s to be, like you know, because it's not necessarily like that resentment I feel isn't necessarily directed toward my current partner, my husband, but they feel the effects of that and so it's like, well, no, this is stuff I have to undo from way before, yeah, and like you're just here for the journey, I guess. Sorry about that. Yeah, sorry about that, but to be able to identify that and be like, wow, I never realized that.
Speaker 1:That's what I've been doing. It's so deep, like deep ingrained Mm-hmm. Yeah, oh, and also guess what the driving force is behind all this?
Speaker 2:Please tell me Patriarchy.
Speaker 1:Oh, I knew it. Not that that doesn't mean men aren't hurt by it, because they are. They are, but women are hurt more look, men can be hurt by patriarchy oh yeah, on all levels 100. But women are hurt more right fair enough.
Speaker 2:The other part was that left oh yeah I forgot? I don't, I'm trying to remember. Is this? I them All right? So remind me, because I think I read them too. I think I know what they're about. But quick, quick reminder what are?
Speaker 1:they. So the left behind series is a whole series about the rapture and what happens to the people after so after biblically.
Speaker 2:In the Bible, jesus is supposed to come back to take his followers with him. That's called the rapture, right? So after he's done that, this book series is about the people that he did not come to, who are left behind. Okay, that's what.
Speaker 1:I thought, yeah, and then it's like, and it goes through basically, like you know everything that in revelations that says it's going to happen in the end of days. Right, they're terrible written, um, but I swear to God, everybody in the Christian world at that time was reading these bitches. And, um, I read them. Yeah, my mom had it. Well, we are big readers too, so like, of course, and but it terrified it. It was terrifying and I think that was the point.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what I think. Yes, it's like for lack of a better term it's almost like fan fiction. Like you take Revelation, which is an established book, and it's crazy, and it's like so outlandish which, again, none of us knows what the end of days will look like. So who knows? But obviously no one has proof that this is what's going to happen, and so it's sort of fan fiction. You sort of spin off of that. So, true, right.
Speaker 1:And say I love it.
Speaker 2:And say, well, the original materials like this, but I'm going to reimagine it like this Right, and I think in on a surface level, that's a very interesting thing to do, especially just like something that a huge group of people Christians and even non-Christians, if they've read Revelation or know about it can kind of be like. Hmm, I wonder imagining what that might be like. I mean, apocalyptic fiction is a thing, it's very popular and that's what that is. It's a post. Whatever this world is, the next version of this world, like what that would be.
Speaker 1:So I get it, but I mean, yeah, I mean, it was basically to scare you because you don't, supposedly. You don't want to be one left behind Right, you want to be taken, snatched up in the rapture. In the rapture and there's been other fictional works about this- that one was just really popular. It was a whole series and I think there were some movies made with Kirk Cameron, of course, oh.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, it's like the Kirk Cameron became like a huge Christian actor in some really bad movies that I used to watch. Guys, oh my gosh, oh my goodness, it's okay, feels like the Twilight Zone, like it really does. It feels like the Twilight Zone remembering, and I used to force Troy to watch them all with me. By the way, he did not go on the journey with me, I mean, he would begrudgingly go with me to church and such and hear me tell him that he needed to get baptized and all the ludicrous things, and would he just be like no, yeah, good for him, though, to be like no, yeah, good for him, though, to be like no, that's you, not me, yep, which I respect now but I did not in the moment, let you have your path.
Speaker 2:And then he had his own.
Speaker 1:Oh, but girl, I had people praying for him. He was on so many prayer lists that he really For my wayward husband. I bet he really appreciates. I respect it so much now that he like just tried to let me like be like you, go on. But I feel I did not respect it then and I feel so bad. Can y'all believe this man is still married to me? I do not know. All right Told you, we're just monogamous.
Speaker 2:Troy, he's like. I'm tired, I can't handle this Troy's like what Katie said I can't do another you at any point in my life, so we're just going to stick with this.
Speaker 1:And now we can hit. How long are we going to be in this phase?
Speaker 2:I'm just going to wait this one out.
Speaker 1:All right, let's move on, cause that was a lot. That was a lot.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1:This is okay. This is from Melinda, all right, my sister-in-law, sister-in-law, okay. Favorite book, tv show, movie and song from childhood oh my God. Yeah, this is a lot to think of while we're recording, like I think we not favorite. We've talked a lot about a lot of this anyway. Yeah, so it'd be repeat conversation. I mean, can?
Speaker 2:I say kaleidoscope, I'm just kidding, oh my God. No, just kidding, okay, so let's start with book. I really liked the Anne of Green Gables books. Of course you did We've talked about this before, when we did our favorite books episode. I just loved that world. I wanted to be her. I just I don't know, I can totally see that Anna Green Gables for sure. I think it's mine.
Speaker 1:Well, I told you when we did our books episode a long time ago, one of my favorite books as a kid was the Giving Tree, and now I have feelings about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like give, give, give until you die. Yes, and no one will give anything with the tree needs See.
Speaker 1:I have problems with it, but I did love Shel Silverstein I also. I don't remember if I talked about this book before, but there was a book called from the mixed up files of Miss Basil E Frank Weiler. Have you ever read that book? No, okay, well, you don't have to make a face.
Speaker 2:That was a mouthful. It's a classic. Oh, it is.
Speaker 1:It's about these kids that go. They live in New York and they go to the museum and they run away to the museum and they live in the museum at night. Oh, that's fun, it's real. I loved it and my kid. I was so excited for my kids to read it and neither one of them liked it. Oh, so excited for my kids to read it and neither one of them liked it. They're like what. I love that book. I used to reread books. Did you reread?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That was one I reread constantly. It was so good. I think I talked about it before, but that was one of my like and it was like I think I would like that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's not long, it's like a.
Speaker 1:Judy Blume. Yeah, okay, I can't remember the author now, but anyway it's a good one. It'd be a fun one to listen to. I think as well. Yeah, maybe I'll do that. Yeah, okay, so that was books. Tv show is next. Gosh, I have so many. It's like I have so many books and TV shows.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good. I number one TV show for me was full house. I loved full house. When fuller house came out, I loved it. You did. I thought it was such crap. It was very cringy, but I guess I just because I was so connected to those characters.
Speaker 2:I was like imagining what stephanie is now or like what their kids look like, or I don't know. I just I really liked it. I I full house. That was probably my favorite. And then I guess, as I got a little older, maybe I liked friends, obviously Dawson's Creek, I like Dawson's Creek, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Those are my main ones. Nary, a cartoon mentioned.
Speaker 2:Nary, a cartoon Nary.
Speaker 1:Cause I like. I think about shows I liked when I was a kid. Oh, I thought of one. I loved all the Jim Henson ones Fraggle Rock. I liked Fraggle Rock as well. Did you ever watch the Storyteller? No, it was a Jim Henson show. This old man would sit by a fire with his Muppet dog. See, that's ringing a bell.
Speaker 2:So maybe I did.
Speaker 1:I think it came on at night. It came on HBO, oh, okay, anyway, I forgot about that. Somebody mentioned it to me a while ago. Then, another thing I heard on a podcast the other day. I completely left my brain but I loved it. Shelley Duvall had a show called, and it was. It was like I can't remember the name of it, but it was like Shelley Duvall's fairy tale theater or something Okay, and they would like retell fairy tale. It is so trippy, please look it up. Okay, it's almost. It's almost trippy to the point of a little terrifying. Oh my gosh, like the costumes. But she went all out Cause you know she's weird and she is great. Oh my God, I used to love watching that. I want to say it came on PBS, but that could be totally wrong, but y'all know I loved.
Speaker 2:Saturday.
Speaker 1:Morning Cartoons, you did I loved them all. I can't pick one favorite, because I loved Garfield, I loved Care Bears, I loved Gummy Bears, see, I could go on and on. You could I'll stop there.
Speaker 2:Those are some good ones though.
Speaker 1:Because we talked about this a lot. Yeah, we have the TV shows and cartoons. It's good to review. What else did she say?
Speaker 2:Good to encapsulate, was it movie? Movie and song? Oh gosh, okay, I liked Homeward Bound, the pet movie. That was like my favorite, although it wouldn't make me cry.
Speaker 1:I did like disney movies, yeah, which are animated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, same um beauty and the beast number one. Yeah, but I also liked all of the renaissance stuff. Yeah, little mermaid, aladdin, lion, king, all of it, but beauty and the beast was definitely my favorite and I still like that one, best of like, the live version, which I thought was quite good, and even the, the musical, which is very good. The animated movie, for me number one, number one.
Speaker 1:What about when?
Speaker 2:you were like a teen. I liked the scream series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was like, I guess, later in my teens, but I really liked that. I'm trying to think if there was really anything before that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I loved clueless.
Speaker 2:Clueless, I like my teen years is when I like I can't hardly wait. That's like my absolute favorite. Oh yeah, that's such a good one, that's my number one.
Speaker 1:I loved all the John Hughes movies from the 80s, which is interesting because I saw them as a kid with my sister which I should not have, which, oops but I loved them as a teen, so like I never really liked them.
Speaker 2:Oh, I loved them, like I had friends that would watch them. Maybe because I didn't watch them when I was smaller, I didn't love them. I like them now, but as a teenager I just remember being like these are old and I don't like them.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're hella problematic.
Speaker 2:Let me just say, that's not why I didn't like them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I think.
Speaker 2:I was just like. These are old movies and everyone's a teen now I don't know. I guess I was kind of snobby about them. Now I'm not. Now I think they're great. Breakfast Club and St Elmo's fire were two that I watched. I still haven't seen St Elmo's fire ever in my whole life so good.
Speaker 1:So I used to watch those on repeat all the time. I don't know I I also used to. I mean I watched so many movies, I loved so many. I mean I liked all the ones you said yeah, I'm trying to think and Forrest Gump. I used to love to watch Forrest Gump, I like Forrest Gump and so funny. So Cooper's 13th birthday was last week and we went to Universal as a family on Friday because we have our nice little military passes. So if anybody's listening and has anything to do with that, thank you for that deal. It is so nice. But he, you know where he wanted to eat lunch that day? Where Bubba Gump. Yes, he was like I want to go there, so bad, because he just watched the movie not too long ago. And we were like, okay, of all the places, of all the delicious places. But you know when you're a kid, like, yeah, it's so cute.
Speaker 1:And we had the most amazing waitress I've had in years. Really, she was phenomenal. Yeah, well, yeah, what did she do? That was so she was just OK.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm going to compare it to. Do you remember how this is going to make me sound hella old when you used to go to restaurants, oh God, oh God, and wait, like you go to like a hometown restaurant and they're just so nice and they just chat with you and they seem genuinely happy to be there, like even though you know they're not, but like I don't know maybe they are. Maybe they are. It genuinely seemed like she was having the best time working.
Speaker 2:Okay, I love that. I love anyone in any job that acts like that. For sure, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, I gave her such a big tip because I was like it was so refreshing, because I feel like customers. Here I go again. Oh God, I feel like customer service nowadays is not the same, right, but I think it's because so much is automated now, right, and also nobody has to work that hard for a tip anymore, because it's just like, it's just there. Everybody gets a tip, like you go to the bank and the teller has a tip jar. I'm like what am I giving you a tip for?
Speaker 2:You make a good wage. I give this bank a lot of my money already.
Speaker 1:The whole reason tips exist is because you don't get paid enough in the service industry. Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:And you can always tip beyond that. If you really loved your bank teller, you can certainly like give her money him or her, or or. I know like Christmas bonuses were like a thing Like if they if you have like a service industry person. You don't normally tip, then maybe at Christmas time you do that, we, we try to do that and try to think of all the people. But yeah, well, that's that makes me happy I loved waiting tables.
Speaker 2:I loved it, even when I would get nasty people, because I just felt like I was getting paid to talk to people. Yeah, and sometimes they didn't want to talk to you, but that's okay, because you would have three or four tables at a time, somebody trying to talk to you, and every now and then you get someone creepy or really drunk and that was not fun. But, like every job has moments. So generally I'd be like wow, I'm showing up and I'm going to leave with cash in my pocket and I'm going to get a paycheck in a couple of weeks and I'm literally just like talking to people. And my favorite one was when I worked on the tour strip down by Disney at an.
Speaker 2:Outback, because there were so many different types of people that came in, although I think there could be something which, probably, with Bubba Gump, is the same thing she probably never sees the same two people ever so I think that that, to me, was a lot of fun but I'm glad you had a good experience.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, and they did like the birthday song and it was funny, Like they had a funny one. Oh good, Um, anyway it was. It was cute, but okay, so, and then?
Speaker 2:songs I don't know I really liked um Mariah Carey's fantasy album. I could just I sang everything. That was the one I would rollerblade to. So I would sing and rollerblade to everything on the fantasy album. It was like years later when I heard on the radio Journey singing Open Arms.
Speaker 2:And I think I said, oh, that's a Mariah Carey song and it was a friend, or somebody was like, no, that's a Journey song. That was that Mariah carey song and it was a friend. Or somebody was like, no, that's a journey song. That was on that mariah carey covered. And I was like, oh, whatever, like I didn't know, I liked that one, I don't know. I liked reba. You know I liked reba. I listened to a lot of 90s country, especially the pop stuff garth brooks, reba mcintyre, um, trying to think who else, I heard leah and rhymes on the radio this morning when I was taking, or on Sirius when I was taking my daughter to camp, and I was like, oh, I'm going to use her as an example Because I always tell my voice students, if you're having trouble hitting a certain note on a vowel, you can cheat a little bit to a different vowel. And that song how Do I Live Without you when she sings it leave, yeah. How do I live without you when she sings it leave, yeah. How do I leave without you?
Speaker 2:She sings it like that oh yeah, or I'm mishearing things like I did with no you're probably right, but I was like I'm going to use her as an example Because she I don't know why- she can't say live on that note, but she just changes her vowel. Yeah, she was so young, Her voice probably was still growing, so probably all that stuff and I loved like when I was like a teen teen I listened to like Master P and all of them and Bone Thugs. Harmony. He is from New Orleans, is he? I loved him and all his little, like the people under his label. I loved all of them.
Speaker 1:So I used to listen to New Orleans rap. Okay, so I used to listen to New Orleans rap when I was in high school because we have, you know, you have local music stations and it was the best. Master P is from New Orleans, so we heard we heard him before anybody else did.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool. And my favorite thing, though, about a lot of those songs back then, they were like the I can't remember now what the term is, but where it's like, it's, I want to say call to action, but that is not correct. But it's like they tell you to do dances. Yes, those were my favorite. Those are fun, those are because like so many of them of those local songs, like that street rap stuff had dances.
Speaker 1:Every song had like dances that went with it and so at our high school dances and stuff, you just do them. Yeah, that's so fun. But uh, I was also big into like all the all the 90s alternative, like pearl jam was my number one. Um, stone temple pilots smashing pumpkins. I talked about how I had a crush on Billy Corgan yes, I don't know what that was about Billy Corgan crush. Look out, oh and Bush. I also had a crush on what's his name, Gavin.
Speaker 2:Rossdale, gavin Rossdale. Yeah, man, don't blame me for that one. I know Billy Corgan, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know but Gavin Rossdale, yeah, yes, I know. So all of that, like all of that genre, I really liked and I'm always here for a boy band guys? Yeah, I mean, obviously I love the boy bands and I didn't even say Britney, because I guess to me it's super obvious, but if you've never listened to us before, I'm a.
Speaker 2:Britney super fan.
Speaker 1:Super fan. I mean, I listened to Britney too.
Speaker 2:And she was like when I was an older teen. So I guess I was trying to think like elementary middle school and on up. Yeah, but she was. I was probably a sophomore or junior when her junior I guess when her stuff hit.
Speaker 1:But I loved her and Christina Aguilera. Loved her. I think it's unfair when people compare them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're not the same they they're.
Speaker 1:It'd be like people comparing you and me. Hello, yeah, I mean not like I'm Brittany, I'm just saying I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2:But like their voices are totally different. And yeah, they're different.
Speaker 1:Completely Like you know, yeah, I don't, I didn't like that, I I know All the time. Well, you know, the first tape I listened to on repeat was the Fiddler on the Roof soundtrack.
Speaker 2:Look, I listened to a ton of soundtracks too. Not Fiddler on the Roof, but yes, I've talked about that several times.
Speaker 1:Yes, like I was six years old singing in my little Fisher Price radio sunrise, sunset oh, that's so cute, though. And tradition, tradition was my favorite. Tradition's really good.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been in Fiddler on the Roof?
Speaker 1:No, you need to. I've never gotten the chance, and you know who I wanted to be in. That show was the matchmaker.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, I forgot her name, but that's who I wanted to be in that show. But anyway, amazing.
Speaker 1:Okay, we answered all those and I think.
Speaker 2:Is there one more, two more? We have two more, two more, three more. We got to hurry it up, let's move.
Speaker 1:We spent way too long on fucking purity culture.
Speaker 2:Well, you knew that was going to be a quagmire.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is a fun one, this is from. Stephanie. I don't really know what she means, so we're going to figure this out. It says Beanie Babies, Cabbage Patch Kids or Garbage Pail Kids.
Speaker 2:I think it means like which do you like the best? Oh, oh well, that's easy. Mine's Cabbage Patch Kids Same yeah Did you have Beanie Babies though?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had some. Remember when McDonald's had them. The little ones, the little ones, the little ones, yeah, the minis and it was like raging, and just a couple years ago they did it again.
Speaker 2:They did, yeah, except I think it was instead of Beanie Babies, it's the Beanie Boos. Oh my God that's cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they had them, beanie Boo.
Speaker 2:They're so cute. That is adorable.
Speaker 1:They're like the ones that have got the we haven't talked about yet. Toy wise that's going to have to come in an episode when we redo toys is pound puppies, I know, and pound purries. I love them both.
Speaker 2:You like the pound purries, I do. I don't dislike cats Like you dislike dogs. I know, I know I feel like it's not like cats. I like cats a lot.
Speaker 1:I have to admit I am very like polarizing when it comes.
Speaker 2:You're like wait, you're a dog person. I mean yes, but I also enjoy cats. I know I like most animals.
Speaker 1:I get it. I get it. My sister-in-law loves all animals. And then I have friends who have dogs and cats and, like all, the creatures. I guess I'm just such like I only like cats and things that remind me of cats.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know like cats and things that remind me of cats. Yes, you know like lizards, no, no, um, I think your monogamy like extends to animals. Well, you're like one type of animal, only I do really enjoy me a monkey I like monkeys too. I mean, I would say, enjoy monkeys, but I like.
Speaker 1:I think that is the most funnest thing to watch at the zoo. Monkeys are fun.
Speaker 2:Like any kind of monkey.
Speaker 1:They're so ornery too, the little baby ones, the little tiny ones, oh my God, those are the cutest thing I've ever seen. Plus, they remind me so much of people, because, obviously, yeah. But it's just so fun to watch their dynamics because there's always at least one that's like the asshole of the group, yeah, and he'll like push, push, push people out the way or he'll smack people in his tail. It's just, I can sit there and watch monkeys all day. Yeah, they're hilarious. So if y'all ever see me at the zoo, find me by the monkeys. Yeah. If you need to find her, that's where she is and my family always be. I don't care about that giraffe over there, I'm going to stare at it.
Speaker 2:It's like people watching, but it's monkey watching.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's even more interesting and you know what ours do. You know they have those things where they can run and then, and like the passages over your head, and stuff and I've seen so many monkeys pee out of there. It is hilarious, that's. I love that Cause you know they know what wing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're like watch out human Somebody down there. Oh my God, it's so funny. Oh my gosh, okay. Next one Second to last. That was an easy one, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yay, we like the fun, light ones. Okay, this is from Hannah, our buddy over in England. Yay, what's one thing you still do now that gives you away as a Zennial? Oh dang, that's a good life. Our whole life gives us away, literally everything but gosh.
Speaker 2:I don't even know, probably just like some of the terminology I was just about to say, saying like rewinding a show, when you're literally like streaming something and like nothing is actually winding or I don't know, just stuff like that. I'm trying to think like calling someone on the phone, I don't know, just like saying different things.
Speaker 1:I think it's like the slang terms that we use. Also, my roots give me away.
Speaker 2:Also my face.
Speaker 1:Also our entire being Also, I think, like the way we use technology.
Speaker 2:Oh, using the computer to fill out forms instead of a phone? Correct, if it is a form, I will forward it to myself to do on my computer later. I don't even like to buy movie tickets from my phone. I will do that, it's so aggravating.
Speaker 1:I will do that because I have like rewards at AMC, yeah, that I can use in the app. That's true, well, and they want you to use the app, I know, but it's like, yeah, but like concert tickets and show tickets, I have to on my computer because I cannot see the goddamn seats, and then you have to like check the different boxes and the seats and I can't see it and I have to like zoom in all crazy.
Speaker 2:That's a big one, that's a big one.
Speaker 1:That also gives us away. You see the font on my phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Kaden is relentless, always like.
Speaker 2:My font is huge as well. Kaden is always like geez why is it so big?
Speaker 1:But then, cooper, one day I hate it when they like read anything that I'm working on. I don't like it when people hover and be nosy. I hate it. And I my something went off on my phone and I was responding to a text it's probably from you and Cooper was like reading it and I was like, excuse me, you don't need to read my. This is not for you. He goes well, the font's so big. How am I supposed?
Speaker 2:to look away. It's like you see one word out of the corner of your eye. You see, like your name, like Cooper, and you're like, wait, what's she typing over there?
Speaker 1:He's like he's like how am I not supposed to look? The font is giant.
Speaker 2:He's not wrong, mine's big too, but it saves me, saves me time.
Speaker 1:And then I can't do nothing about these eyes. They are what they is. It's just like they laugh at me when I can't hear stuff either and I'm like what do you want me to do? Like I can't hear you Hear better, I don't know, I know I would love that.
Speaker 2:Great yeah, oh, I get it.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that was a good one, I'm sure there's a zillion more, I guess pretty.
Speaker 2:This backdrop, our shirts, this podcast, literally everything Advice we give our children. I don't care, all the things we are, what we are.
Speaker 1:What's that song?
Speaker 2:Which song are you referencing?
Speaker 1:You can't read my mind. How dare you? Because we are who we are. Is it a Rihanna song? We are who we are, something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sort of All right, that's probably really wrong.
Speaker 1:We'll look it up, don't worry about it. But that, look wow, that was wow, that was feisty. Look. All right, you're going to love this and I already know your answer. Oh God, this is a great one to end on, cause it's funny. If you who's it from? This is from runs on pizza. Who's that? Samantha? Samantha, that's the one who saw me in the coals Correct, and she's like a hell of good runner. Yeah.
Speaker 2:She's an amazing yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jealous of that girl. All right, if you had to pick one 90s sitcom family to live with, who would it be, and why?
Speaker 2:Well, probably the Full House family because, I wanted that room in the attic, the one that Uncle Jesse and Aunt Becky ended up living in with their twins, yeah. I so wanted that like as my own little apartment, plus it was that cool row house in San Francisco, plus, like I just wanted to be one of the Tanner girls, okay, okay, so that would be me.
Speaker 1:Well, I was thinking whose room would I want the most? But I thought of Punky Brewster. But that's 80s, 90s. You know who I would want to be is Blossom. Yeah, that's a good one. She had such a fun room and she had a great best friend and her brother was adorable.
Speaker 2:I'm such a fun room and she had a great best friend and her brother was adorable. I'm gonna go with blossom. Yeah, I recently watched the opening song for the show. It like came up on my instagram or something so fun her and all those different costumes and like tap dancing on the piano about the future yeah, that is good that was so cute.
Speaker 1:Ain't no good a reason for getting all depressed. All right, sorry, that was on our TV theme song trivia it was. I was like why do I know?
Speaker 2:that song Because I remember singing it. Yeah, you sang it and I don't think I got it. I think you gave me a hint and then I got it.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:But then I just saw it the other day, so now I would get it. How could?
Speaker 1:you not with that amazing. It wasn't your voice, I just didn't remember the theme song. No, no, it's kind of a weird one.
Speaker 2:It's kind of a weird one. It's not like an earworm like some of them are Speaking of 90s sitcoms.
Speaker 1:You know who passed away yesterday.
Speaker 2:I saw Malcolm Jamal Warner and he drowned is what it said.
Speaker 1:Heartbreaking yeah.
Speaker 2:Heartbreaking, so sad.
Speaker 1:And Ozzy Osbourne died yesterday too. Yeah, I did see that, so sad.
Speaker 2:Very sad day. Yeah, very yeah. A lot of people were commenting that I saw from Malcolm Jamal Warner that just in general he just always seemed like such a grounded person to have been a TV star or a child star, rather, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I loved his character on the Cosby Show too because I felt like he was. They all had their moments, but he was like the realistic child that, like you, if you're gonna have five or six kids or whatever, you're gonna have at least one. That gives you a hard time, probably more, and so I always liked all the stuff with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw, you know our our friend Chris. We had on to talk about movies. I saw he had a really good post yesterday about it, saying that because Chris is a Black man, which is going to matter in a second when I say what he posted he said that Theo meant so much to people of his generation because it was the first time he saw a reflection of himself. That was accurate. He's like I wasn't like the star athlete, I was a C student but I was like silly and like that. Theo was it for us. So this like hits really hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so thoughts are with all y'all. Thoughts are with you, chris. Also, chris, thank you for correcting Katie. He was the first one to correct you Tell, katie, it is shit break.
Speaker 2:Now I have to. So we literally just rewatched it. But now I at least have to rewatch those scenes and hear it for what he's actually saying for the first time. But I mean, hey, there might be people out there with you, I'm going to turn on the captions too. Okay, no-transcript so much, or you repeat it so much that you actually do believe it Eventually this is actually.
Speaker 1:This has come up as a conversation topic multiple times because Cooper watched a YouTube video on the Mandela effect?
Speaker 2:Is it? What is it? Is it Mandela?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it was on the living room and I was like oh, that's so interesting. And it was like giving all these popular examples. So then this has come up multiple times in conversation, because the first one they talked about was the Monopoly guy. Everybody thinks he had a monocle. He does not have a monocle Right. Everybody thinks he had a monocle. He does not have a monocle Right. And I was like I never thought he had that. I did, did you? He doesn't know. Wow, the planners. Peanut guy has a monocle, aha, but monopoly guy just normal face, no monocle.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:But there were all of these interesting like ones that people thought, and like the Berenstain Bears is another one how you spell the last name, because it's with an A and everybody thought it was with an E. Wow, yeah, and you didn't know that either.
Speaker 2:Mm-mm.
Speaker 1:But I also knew that was incorrect because I used to read those books, right, right, and I always thought it was weird because you would say Berenstain, but it's Berenstein, I guess, mm-hmm, I guess, mm, hmm, so Weird.
Speaker 2:All right, awesome, ok. Well, thank you guys for those questions and if you hung in for this whole episode.
Speaker 1:Oh, what a roller coaster. And if you had?
Speaker 2:to listen. In parts we totally understand.
Speaker 1:They were like fast forward purity culture. Yeah.
Speaker 2:They're like let's get to the movies and TV shows and the leg warmers, please. Well, thank you guys. So much for listening. We'll do another Ask Us Questions. Yes, I don't know, six months, eight, nine months from now, to get some more questions from you guys and make sure you're sharing us with your friends and leave us a review wherever you listen, and make sure you tune into our Dawson's Creek rewatches. Oh yeah, they kind of feel like this type of episode. You know like usually we bring something research, something whatever, but these questions episodes if you really like them, you'll like Dawson's Creek. Yeah, because there are a lot more like detours, like what we remember from the time or how we felt about things, or feel about things now or whatever that may be. So make sure you're listening to those too. Yeah, all right, and we will see you next time on.
