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Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Dawson's Creek S3, E13 & E14: Stage Lights and Jell-O Shots
On this episode of our Dawson's Creek rewatch of Season 3 (Episodes 13 and 14), opening night jitters meet Valentine's Day chaos!
"Northern Lights" delivers all the backstage drama as Pacey faces paralyzing stage fright while sporting some adorable fake sideburns.
"Valentine's Day Massacre" follows the gang as they crash a password-protected party at a golf course,
From debating whether Valentine's Day is delightful (Katie) or a capitalist nightmare (Dani) to solving the mystery of the missing Paula Cole theme song, this episode is packed with nostalgic detours and personal stories. Have your own teenage party memories or stage fright moments? Share them with us – or just text us the word "mustard" so we know you're listening!
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Hello, welcome back listeners, to our rewatch of Dawson's Creek, season three. And today we are doing episodes. Is it 13 and 14 already? Yeah, thank God, 14. Finish this. We are moving through, and I'm Katie and I'm with Danny, in case, for some strange reason, this is your very first episode. That'd be so weird. Here we are, but before we get started, oh, we have a joke and he just texted again.
Speaker 1:Okay, so y'all remember Carlos, yes, who is a podcast listener. Our friend also has been a guest. He was our Power Rangers super fan. He sent us a joke about Dawson's Creek. So Dani's going to read the joke and then I'm going to deliver the punchline. Yes, that's how jokes work.
Speaker 1:I am very matter of fact about my joke telling. Okay, like he said an audio, but it's like it's in two parts, so we're just going to say it. So, carlos, if you're hoping for a voice moment, sorry, no voice cameos today. All right, here is the joke. Sorry, no, boys, cameos today. All right, here is the joke. What is the zip code for Dawson's Creek? Are we ready? This is the part where I tell you the punchline. Guys, because the joke has been told. Here we go 90108. Okay, okay, that was the funniest joke telling ever.
Speaker 1:Katie's like are you ready for the punchline? Because here it comes and then she clears her throat but 90108, that's great, 90108. I love that, except in this season and the season before. That's not the theme song. But that's okay. Forever in our hearts that will be the theme song. It was when it was originally on. That's what I don't get. Is that season one on anywhere you watch, it still uses Paula Cole, but seasons two and beyond do not.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to I, we got to figure this out. I'm going to do research on that. If you remind me, I will do that for next week. Okay, because I want to know what the hell is going on. I'm wondering if some kind of lawsuit later where maybe they they did only sign her for one season, maybe I should do it right, and so they can still do, they can still technically do the first season. But she gave them not she, but like, maybe her, like legal team wanted royalties, right, so for the other seasons. But that wasn't originally planned so they had to remove it. That's my guess, because I'm sure she got royalties, at least for the pilot. You're probably right, I don't know. But 901, it is funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks, carlos, if you still listen. Yeah, it's been a while. If you hear this, carlos, send us the text. Us the word what? Texas?
Speaker 1:I was just going to think of a word that, that way we'll know he listened. What? I was just going to think of a word that, that way we'll know he listened. What's the word? I was going to say mustard. What's going on? I don't know. I think I'm hungry. I think I'm hungry.
Speaker 1:Text us the word mustard, carlos, or anybody else. If you are listening, send us that, oh my God, comments, or email us or text us. Okay. So what was the answer? Okay, it says it's different on streaming services because of licensing issues. You're right, I was right. It only purchased Sony, only purchased the rights to use Paula Cole's. I Don't Want to Wait for the original airing and syndication. Okay, that, you were right. 100%, not for streaming or DVD releases. Okay. So when it moved to streaming, the original theme song was replaced with Run Like Mad by Jan Arden I guess that's the name of that song. However, a deal was later struck with Paula Cole to re-record the song for streaming, but it's not on Hulu, so maybe it just depends. It's not on Prime either. Yeah, okay, interesting. So there you go. All right, you were right. Look at that. Well, there we go. 90108. Always has to do with money, always, always. I get it though.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's dive into episode 13, titled Northern Lights. Yeah, the summary is Pacey's stage fright threatens to ruin the school play's opening night and Joey agrees to date a college student. Yeah, I mean, yeah, she went on a date with him. Right, they're not dating. Well, we find out they are dating the next episode. That's true. That's true because they're still chit-chatting, but also, speaking of that, like another person over the age of 18 dating a minor. Come on, I know great people. She did say he's only 19, but then, in the same episode, she said I don't even know how to drive and I was like, okay, see, I'm confused about all of this. Yeah, so he's like a young college student, but still, yeah, I know, I know, I just like, let her just date someone in her high school. Like, maybe somebody from another school, I don't know. Yeah, not college, not college.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the writing this season? I hate it. Yeah, I did, like some of the opening night, I wrote down opening night shenanigans, like for the play. Oh, yeah, where, like, I mean, most of them are caused by Pacey, but then, like, the director has kidney stones, oh I know, I know, and Andy has to take over and I don't know. I just kind of I thought some of that was really fun. Well, it is because live theater is a comedy of errors all the time. Oh, all the time. There's always. I mean, we can think of something for every single show. Well, they say something about something falling on people's heads, and I thought of you. I was like, yeah, things fall on Danny's head all the time.
Speaker 1:Ok, for those of y'all that don't know, I am cursed with any set moves and prop situations. I am very clumsy and I get very nervous when I have to move set pieces for valid reason. And when Katie and I were at Christmas Carol, there was one scene that was cursed for me, literally what I was. One night I was coming through a door and a lantern fell on my head. The other night I was. It was a maypole scene. My ribbon came off right in the beginning of the number. I had to dance the whole maypole with no ribbon in my hand, pretending she was pulling tight on that ribbon. I mean, you did it. You did a great job and remember I had to move that door and I always put it in the wrong part. Yes, I also had trouble with that door. That door is a tough one. No one ever wants to move that door, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:And then when we did Christmas Story last year, hunt, our ASM, who y'all know because he was on here to talk about Stephen King, yeah, he was like he goes oh Dani, aren't you so glad you have a lead part so you're not going to have to move set pieces, and he's like I'm actually very glad. And then I had to move that couch every single scene and Hunt was just laughing. Yeah, I never did mess it up, you didn't. But it didn't fall on you because it was already on the ground. So that was good. But like, he's like, aren't you so glad? And he's like me too.
Speaker 1:But then I broke that outlet when I had to unplug the lamp eight times, I think. Yeah, eight outlet covers, I think is what he told me was my total. Oh, my gosh, running up that outlet cover, bill man Running it up. Anyway, I'm cursed, that's funny. So I just thought a lot of that stuff was funny. You're right, that was kind of fun and that was kind of fun.
Speaker 1:And then I also thought it was interesting that like there have a date to look at the Northern Lights, maybe Joey and the college guy, I don't know. I was just like how cheesy can it get? I don't like him. He's boring. The writing is boring. They don't have any chemistry together. Like the way they write their scenes is boring. They're at like a mathematician's house what? Yeah, they're drinking mead. There just happens to be all these mathematicians and physicists living in Cape side. Yeah, that was strange. I thought that was weird.
Speaker 1:And then the part where Dawson drops the film class and then Nikki confronts him and she was like you better get back in there. So I kind of understood her point when she was like we have a group project due in three days and you didn't tell me you dropped the class. You can't, you're in high school, so I can't just drop a class. Kind of get that. But I understood what he meant, where he was like I just need to take a step back. And he was like I just need to take a step back. And he's like I'm sure you can find someone else. But also I don't know why I didn't think about this at the time. But you're in high school, you don't get to just change your schedule. I mean you can, it depends how early in the semester it is, but this is pretty late. Yeah, that's what I mean, right?
Speaker 1:Also, remember how I was waiting for that Christmas episode. I said no Christmas episode. No Christmas episode has never happened, which is crazy, because they did a Halloween one, I know A Thanksgiving one, and then we've just moved on. I'm very offended. I wonder if it has to do with like filming schedules and when episodes air, so it just you know, time off maybe, and like it wouldn't make sense to obviously air it in January. Yeah, maybe, but I was really bummed because the episode after this is Valentine's Day. So I was like, well, I guess we just skip right over the holidays.
Speaker 1:And then Pacey's opening night nerves were really, really cute. Bless him. His fake sideburns were the best. I wrote that too and I said it's funny, because they kind of age him, I know, and it kind of makes him look more like how he looks now, even though he doesn't really have sideburns, but just like made him look older and I was like weird, like it's like an older version of Joshua Jackson with those sideburns so fun and his hair combed to the side. I loved it. So cute, I loved it, I okay.
Speaker 1:So have you ever gotten stage fright? Or when you were younger? I don't think so. I get nervous at auditions. Well, nervous, nervous is different than stage fright. But I mean, I've probably had stage fright at auditions too. I can think of a few where I shook a lot or it was hard to get out what I was trying to sing. That doesn't really happen to me anymore, but by the time I'm at performance level I'm not too scared to go out there. I have never gotten stage fright. I get nervous, but I think that that's different, being nervous and stage fright.
Speaker 1:Gotten stage fright? I get nervous, but not like I think that that's different, like being nervous and stage fright. Stage fright makes you freeze and it's debilitating. Yeah, right, and like. I know our friend a friend of ours was telling us a story of one time when she was doing audition and she literally froze on stage and could not sing like froze. And yeah, that's never happened to me, thankfully, and that definitely happened in an audition.
Speaker 1:Well, actually lies, that did happen to me in a pageant. Oh, it did. I had to stop mid song, but it was not a song, I was standing and singing. I was playing and singing and I got so overwhelmed at doing both that I stopped in the middle and left, didn't run off, but just like, okay, I'm done and like walked off. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:Did you win the pageant? No, I never won the pageant, lame Spoiler, but definitely didn't win that one. They were like and zero. Next time I did one, just saying no, yeah, you're like, and not trying to prove nothing, I'm not going to. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:My mom was always so floored when I was a kid I didn't, I never got. When I was a kid, I really never got nervous, I cause it was fun. It is fun, right. So I don't like auditions and I get nervous for auditions, but I don't get stage fright. I feel like, and I mean I don't think I and you have fun Now, yeah. But I also don't think I ever like, I've never walked out of an audition, except one and it had nothing to do with singing or dancing and I was like man, I own that audition and then it didn't get cast. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's happened to me too, where I've like quote unquote messed up in an audition and I'm like, oh well, that one's a no and I get cast Right. And then I've like had a couple times like literally the best audition of my life.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I almost think, though, in my case, when I have like the best audition that I could possibly have, it kind of catapults me up to that part where there's only a few parts for that level, if that makes sense, whereas, like when I kind of mess up a little or I'm just kind of like I don't know a little more, not standout-ish, it's easier to be like, oh, yeah, she's in the ensemble, if that makes sense. I have no idea if this is true, this is just me processing it, but I'm like it's like when I have so idea. If this is true, this is just me processing it, but I'm like it's like when I have so-so ones, yeah, it's easier to envision me as part of the group, but what if it's above? So-so? Then it's like oh, now, like the consideration is for this thing, but like we don't want her for this, this or this. Yeah, I don't know, I don't think I have that same. Well, I mean, you've been cast as lead so well, you must, one, I mean, and another, but that had.
Speaker 1:That was not a musical, but I'm just saying I it's interesting because cooper also does not get stage fright like, which I think is interesting because he gets nervous. But I've seen kids freeze, yeah, um, from stage fright and I think it's crazy because there's a lot of professionals who get stage fright. Yeah, it's crazy, and they still they can do it, do it. It's almost like you're having an anxiety attack while you're doing your job. That's crazy, kind of like your brain takes over for you, yeah, but you're still in the middle of that anxiety moment. You know who?
Speaker 1:Our friend, one of our friends, that's an amazing actor and performer who does not do it hardly ever because they have horrible stage fright is Patrick. He does not. Yes, what, he has horrible stage fright. He gets super nervous. Oh man, yeah, like when I met Patrick, we were in Screamland together, which was like this immersive dark art haunted exhibit thing and it was basically improv all night long for like six weeks. It was so much fun and he was so good, but he had to, like, take a shot before yeah, sometimes more than one, yeah, sometimes more than one, yeah, before we went in for the night, because he would get so nervous. He had to kind of like block the judgment in his brain because the judgment would like cause him to freeze up. So if, like, that defense is down, then he could like operate.
Speaker 1:He's so good though. Oh my God, I want to see him in something so bad. He's so good though. Oh my God, I want to see him in something so bad. He's so good. Okay, he's in that movie we're doing. Yes, okay, good, so I'll see him. I'll send you some YouTube clips of him.
Speaker 1:He did this project with our friend OP a few years back, called Picture Show Panic, and that character that he was was who he was in Screamland. He was like this director from like the 50s, so he had like that voice, kind of like that um, who is that? Um edward, oh, I love like when um johnny depp played edward. That's who he reminded me of. Okay, cool, anyway, I have to watch that. Okay, moving on from moving on, moving on, um, yeah, I wrote down just that party that they were at the.
Speaker 1:Why are they having a giant party on an opening night? Is that normal? Oh, you mean like after the show? Yeah, that's probably just a cast party is what I think, but they still had more shows to go. I've been to cast parties on opening nights before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it just depends on the theater, but personally I would rather do it at the end, just myself, because I'm in that mode, so you relax, then you can actually have fun. Yeah, yeah, but they, I think it was just a cast party. Um, I said, think about the stage or the sideburns. Um, oh, I thought it was really interesting, although it wasn't written. Great dawson is not concerned at all about joey being on the date, but pacey's very concerned. Oh, yeah, because things are turning and every episode for a while you're like it's gonna happen, like in this one. I know it's the next. Oh, it's the next one. Yeah, yeah, sorry, we'll get to that, okay.
Speaker 1:Henry, uh-huh, dude is so needy. I did not love him in this episode. I know it's like so just making a big deal if Jen is not giving him full attention every second, like on numerous occasions, and like climbing in the rafters was kind of a red flag. That's a lot. And I mean, granted, jen shouldn't have agreed to go on a date with him, then brought her grandma and then had the grandma sit between them. Hello, that's so weird. But like I was like was like dude, I know, and his hair in this episode sucks. I don't know what they were doing. And you know what I noticed in this episode and the next one him and jen look a lot alike too. Oh, they kind of do. There's a scene I forget which scene it is but they keep doing close-ups of their faces back and forth and I'm like wow, they really look alike. Oh, yeah, it's kind of weird. They kind of I didn't think about it so I don't know.
Speaker 1:I didn't love Henry in this episode. Yeah, he was a lot, and what they were portraying Like. I just didn't love that. Oh, when Pacey first comes on stage and first of all his like actress with him on stage in that like cute little 60s, like the longest kiss, I know I don't know what that was I was like hello, but maybe it was just, maybe she was trying to calm his nerves or they just for dramatic effect. It was long, it was really long. What else did I have? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Dawson's Jurassic Park story what do we think about that? And then at the end of it, so he's explaining I wasn't even paying attention, so I don't even remember this, okay. So this is. It was a pretty boring scene. He's talking to Nikki oh yeah, I totally tuned out.
Speaker 1:And he tells this whole story about how he saw Jurassic Park when he was 10. Oh, and there were these people in front of him making out, oh yeah, and he couldn't believe that Salma would make out instead of watch the movie. And then he was like so I told him to just like, cut it out. I'm thinking 10-year-old, you told grownups, or at least teenagers, make it. I was like, okay, but then he tells this whole story and then he's like but that was the wonder of it, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now I don't think I have that wonder anymore and that's why I dropped film. I know I was like what, what? Okay, I didn't realize he was talking about Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1:I do remember that part, yeah, so it was just a very it's crappy writing this season. It's crappy. I hate it. And, to be fair, I totally get that when the thing that you love more than anything is kind of running you over, oh yeah, that you need to step back, or running you over emotionally and you're feeling bad most of the time about it instead of good. Trust me, ben there has done that. It's a continual process. So I don't think it's bad that he dropped his film class apparently in the middle of the year or that he doesn't feel like that much into film right now. I don't think that means he's never going to want to do it again. He's not quitting forever. He even said I'm just stepping back and everyone's giving him such a hard time about it, including Pacey, and I was just like, okay, he's fine, he's 16 or 17 or whatever he's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:And then when they're at that cast party and Joey shows up which was cool, so she comes up and Jen and Pacey are at the bar I mean they weren't drinking, but they're like sitting there and I'm like, oh good, she's here, they can have a heart-to-heart. And then the college vet shows up. I'm like why is he here? Which I think maybe is what we were supposed to feel as an audience. Right, you're supposed to be frustrated Because you're supposed to be like, oh good, she's going to, yeah, so it was kind of frustrating. Yeah, girl, what else you got? Well, I liked Andy's mantra that she told Jack when she was like my mantra.
Speaker 1:I came up this mantra when I was away structure and purpose and I was like I like that. It's simple, but I love it. I like that. It made me think of I remember I can't remember which deployment this was or whatever Trey had going on and I was getting stressed out about being alone again and having to do all this stuff and somebody said to me all you have to do is remember three words and that's keep it simple, and that you can put it for everything Keep food simple, keep your day simple, like, keep getting dressed, like, just keep it simple. Yeah, right, and that's what helped me really get through it, because I'm like, okay, it's all right, it's fine, like just we're alive, we're breathing and it's fine, like everything's fine. But I like that because, like for her Structure and purpose, if she has structure and she has purpose, then she's doing great, she can coast ahead.
Speaker 1:This is, and I'm like that's why I don't enjoy summer, because I have no structure. Yeah, and I it is kind of a free-for-all. It's great. In some ways I don't like it, but not in others. Yeah, and I did not realize I thought once my kids got older it wouldn't be as stressful because, like when they're little like you're constantly having to like shuffle them to their find stuff to do, but it is, I admit I, and plus I'm not working as much as I do when they're in school, cause summer is well you know, it affects y'all too. Summer is just shitty for private lessons of any kind and group classes of any kind, unless you're a summer camp. So I just I don't like it. I'm ready to get back.
Speaker 1:So structure and purpose, that's your mantra now. I guess I love it. I love it, I feel like, especially because it's summer but also there's so many new things starting at my studio that I'm just getting run over by everything right now because I'm in the thick of the doing. But also my job is to keep the structure and to keep the mission and to keep the long-term stuff and just like the last couple of weeks, I just haven't been able to. It's like I answer the emails, I register the people, I pay the bills and that's about all I've got.
Speaker 1:And see, you're getting to a point where you're that's like because you're running a business but you're also a staff member, yep, and you're getting to the point where you have to let go of that. Yes, like the private lessons and like you have to pass those on, yeah, and so you can do the other stuff. So you can do the other stuff, so you can just be the business center, but you can't get there yet. You're like at this transition, you're almost there, yeah, so you're doing the work of like two full-time jobs, yeah, and that's such a good point. So, for example, our fall classes I'm not teaching any of them smart and I'm not taking new students and I always lose a couple over the summer and into fall, who maybe come back later, but like they have too much going on or they are on a break, like me, because I'm poor right now, yeah, right, which is fine. So, but like, when some of them come back, I'll probably just not you, but like I'll have to send them other places and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1:But I'm, you know, directing a show right now and planning all the fall classes, and I did 30 hours of a summer camp last week that I could have staffed someone else to do, right, but it was my idea and there weren't a lot of kids enrolled. So then it's like, well, now I'm paying a staff member, at least if I do it, I'm paying myself, kind of like so, but I totally I've been thinking like, cause people have asked me, since we're looking for bigger space, they're like well, what's your three-year plan, what's your five-year plan? I'm like, what's your three-year plan, what's your five-year plan? I'm like everything's been such a snowball of momentum that I really haven't had the chance to go. What would I want that to be? Of course, you can always adjust it and change it, because whatever happens and you have to change it. But I'm like I do need that, so I'm going to get there. But I'm also trying to finish my book, so also, which I'm past deadline on, but I'm close. I'm close. Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 1:The hard part is that you're doing all these things, but it's going to lessen up and it will After summer. But you also also like it's hard because some of the things you're going to have to release are things you enjoy. That's true too. You know, like I enjoyed the camp and I've loved directing. I am going to direct Frozen, but I don't know that I'll direct more after that for a while, or I'll pick one per year that I really, really feel connected to or something. But like, yeah, I'm just that's part of it too, because part of the reason I'm even doing any of this is because I like teaching lessons, I like summer camps, I like directing shows, so that's a big part of it. But I also like having more families come in and having more opportunities, and the only way to have more opportunities is to have more hands helping me and taking things over, which, thankfully, I have an amazing staff.
Speaker 1:So anyway, uh, the other thing I liked about this episode I liked when andy was talking to pacey at the end oh yeah. And she was like he was like oh, like you must be really disappointed in me that like I had to do this play just to get a c yeah. And she was like. He was like oh, like you must be really disappointed in me that like I had to do this play just to get a c yeah, like I'm like backsliding all that progress you helped me make, and she was kind of just like no. She said you know, I have this habit of like trying to spruce up guys instead of just like letting them be who they want to be, or you know. And I just thought that like it was a nice light. In no way in that scene was like oh, I bet they're gonna get back together. Yeah, it was like friendly, yeah, and light, and she seemed well, yeah, and he seemed not angry at her and I thought that was a really nice scene. It was nice.
Speaker 1:I like also something I don't think I was ever able to do with any ex-boyfriends. I mean, it's a very mature, especially considering they haven't been broken up that long mature conversation. So probably unrealistic, but I liked it. Yeah, no, I thought it was good too. Also, more deep talks on the dock yes, or at least by the water. Dock water, yeah. Water side, yeah. More deep talks so many that Talk water, yeah. Waterside, yeah. More deep talk so many. That's what I read. That's all I had for that. Yeah, me too, okay.
Speaker 1:So, moving on to the, I did not enjoy that episode. I barely paid attention. Yeah, like literally. Um, we are on season three, episode 14, after this one Valentine's day massacre, which is weird, cause I thought it was going to be something way different than it was. Yeah, it really wasn't as bad as it sounds.
Speaker 1:The summary is Pacey persuades Dawson and their friends to attend a wild Valentine's Day party, which, by the way, the kid who was having the party looked 35. He did, yes, what was that? Was he supposed to be a teenager? Also, how do they? They're in this small town. But yet there are all these kids that come into vernacular like every episode. They're like wait, where you been? Yeah, where's this guy holding the party on the golf course? Like hello? So do you remember the password for the party? I know kung fu. I love that. And I love the way jack delivers the line. He's like I know Fu. I laughed out loud at that. That was so good. Okay.
Speaker 1:So when the episode opens, joey's trying to learn how to drive a stick shift yes, Do you know how to drive a stick shift? I learned forever ago but haven't done it for 20 years. Okay, the only time I ever tried to learn how to drive a stick shift, my sister tried to teach me and she laughed so hard at me she could not continue and she was like that's it, I'm done, I'm done. And then I think. And then I remember in high school, my friend Frank, when I started learning how to drive. He had a truck like an old truck and he tried to help me and he was the same. He was like all right, you're kind of hopeless. My boyfriend in high school drove a stick. He drove like a Nissan Sentra. That's what my sister had, yeah, and so it was a manual. Yeah, and like in a parking lot or something.
Speaker 1:I tried and I did learn, but he would never let me drive it out on the streets and I would just never want. Like, is there an advantage to a six shift car? Well, I don't know the mechanics of it, but what was told to me was, if you're ever stranded somewhere and you need to drive and you don't know how to drive a six shift, then you're screwed. That's what I said. Like, if you're ever in a situation where you need to drive a car and it's a six shift and you don't know how to drive, and I'm like well, when is that going to happen? Happen to me, though, it's very unlikely, it wouldn't, but I can understand. It's kind of like changing a tire, like, although that's way, although that's way more common, but like, do you know how to change a tire? I do, I do not. I, I would never want to. I'd probably honestly just sit in my car and call my roadside assistance. Do you know what?
Speaker 1:When we drove um to new york from virginia for a weekend trip, it actually went really bad when we lived there. We got a flat tire on the New Jersey Turnpike Oof, yikes Girl, it was such a horrible trip that's so stressful, yeah. And we had to call the roadside assistance and there's a special number that only services the Jersey Turnpike, services at Jersey Turnpike. Then we had to go find some random ass place that it was Sunday, I think to get a tire. Oh, it was, it was like it was and it was like this scary ass place and like, wait, no girl, it was so crazy.
Speaker 1:Anyway, okay'll be, okay, I won't. I don't know, I don't know. I will see. If that ever arises, I'll let you know. You're gonna survive the zombie apocalypse. I will die by driving a stick shift car, knowing how to change tires. That is exactly how I'm going to survive. I mean, if it's up to me, we're dead, dead on the jersey turnpike.
Speaker 1:They'd be like here's this pickup truck that has a flat tire and it's a stick shift. It's your only way out. I'd be like, well, here they come. You'd be like I got this shit. I'd be like, yeah, here we go. All right, I love it. Okay, so plasma. So my sister's wife still donates plasma for extra. I would say do people still do that? That was one of my questions.
Speaker 1:I did it in college a few times. I have, I have various tattoos, so you can you have like certain time frame. Um, I also have shitty veins so like it's hard to get anything out of me, so that's never been something I've done. But my sister's wife still does it. Okay, I mean it's helpful, it's needed. I mean she cause she's healthy, she, I mean she's in her early thirties, mid thirties, early early thirties. Yeah, um, and yeah, it's extra income.
Speaker 1:I just remember in college like everyone did it, did you? I couldn't get tattoos? Did you have that? I couldn't, you couldn't. But yeah, but I had friends. I had one friend that did it and she would always feel like shit after.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's really. I mean it's similar like when you give blood, depending how you feel, but it's even more pulling more from you. Yeah, yeah, I don't give blood. Really often I think I'm outside the window. I don't remember how many years it is After you get a tattoo. You have to wait before you do any of that.
Speaker 1:But Cooper asked me the other day, like do you have the kind of like the universal kind of blood? And I said I do not. I actually have a very rare blood type that is always in need, have AB negative, which is super rare blood. He goes. What kind of blood do I have, rare blood? And he goes. What kind of blood do I have? And I was like I have no idea. Yeah, do you know your kids blood? I wouldn't know. Off the top of my head, I have no clue. I would not.
Speaker 1:I know mine and I know brant's because, and and even then I just I knew mine, but I know his because his brother needed a kidney and so we did some testing for that. Wow, yeah, and his brother was type b, is type b, and so is brant, oh. But then his sister was like a, so she couldn't donate, and his mom was like a or ab, okay, and so neither of them could, were even potential, but his dad ended up my father-in-law donated a kidney. Wow, this was 10 years ago, almost 11 years ago. Yeah, wow, that's amazing, it was a whole thing. It was a whole thing. But we found out mine too, because I was going to potentially get tested as well if needed, but I was pregnant with Tegan. That's how I know how long ago it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and because Brant was about to be a father to five, they said he couldn't do it. They rolled him out. Yeah, because they only do per am like if, yeah, yeah, it was interesting because I didn't know any of this. But organ donation, everyone has their own team. Yes, so the recipient has their own team and the donor has their own team to make sure that no personal feelings get in the way. Yeah, so my husband's team was able to just look at him and say you are our patient. We do not recommend it because, like, five children won't have a father, something happens.
Speaker 1:And then five small children, and then my brother-in-law's team wanted to be sure whatever was happening with him was what's best for him, not the other one, and I think that that's great, that that's how they do it. It was heartbreaking at the time because we didn't think anybody else was on deck and they wouldn't test my father-in-law at first because of his age, but he's like a master swimmer, like a champion swimmer at the time, like all the things. So they just had to do a further battery of tests on him to be able to clear him and they were able to. Wow, yeah, so that was really good news at the time and now. But that's how I know our blood types. But I didn't need to know the kids' blood types at the time.
Speaker 1:That was a long answer. That was a really long answer. I guess that's just been stuck in there. But that's a great story though. That's a good story. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a wonderful story.
Speaker 1:And he hasn't gotten. He has. You know, it's something genetic, but not everybody. Obviously in his family has it, but it's still in his body, if that makes sense. So even with a new kidney, the new one can become infected. I know it's horrible, but so far his hasn't, and it's been over a decade. So that's a good sign. And if that happens then eventually you have to have another transplant. Oh my God, and you kind of just keep doing that cycle. So thankfully that's not happened to him. Oh, that's so good. Yay, yay, yes, uh, let's see, let's talk about, um, jello shots. Yes, let's do it. That's in the episode. Everybody promise I.
Speaker 1:Okay, I had to laugh really hard because of the memories that came flooding back to me when the guy walked up with a plate of jello shot. I know was endless. First of all, I can't even count how many parties I've been to in my past not in recent years, obviously. Actually I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I was at one not too long ago, but where Jell-O shots were just like they were everywhere, everywhere, and I never thought that they tasted better. Did you think they tasted better than regular shots? Like, did it mask the alcohol for you? No, not at all. I thought they tasted really bad. Do you know what was funny, though?
Speaker 1:I can remember making a few times where my roommates and I would go to make jello shots and realize we didn't have any of the little cups, so we would just make a giant bowl of jello with alcohol in it. No, I swear to God, no, you did not. I swear to you. Oh, my gosh. Well, what's the one? It's like buffalo, something, buffalo punch, or did you guys have maybe that's an Indiana thing, but it was like where you would literally take like everclear and fruit, oh well, stuff, and like it was called like grog or like, yeah, I bet it's the same thing, everybody has something they call it. Yeah, and it was like so gross, so gross and so potent. Yeah, yeah, I know why. So, yeah, I uh a friend, ours, who's a grownup. He got really into gourmet jello shots, like in previous years, where like, yes, it's jello but there's like other ingredients too, and had a party at his house but he doesn't live here so we weren't at it but and sent us all these pictures and they looked pretty good but I was like, is this a thing?
Speaker 1:Now? I'm not a shot person. Yeah, like, I'm just not. Even back in the day, I used to love I used to love me a tequila shot. Um, but I'd rather just like.
Speaker 1:My reason for having a drink these days is because I want to enjoy it. Right, I'm not trying to hurry up and get the alcohol in my body. I'm like that with coffee too. I want to enjoy it. Yes, like I don't want anything that, yeah, that's why sometimes I don't like iced coffee. It's gone too fast. Yeah, cause I, oh yeah, I will slurp down iced coffee, me too, but, um, like, I will drink, like if I get. Like I like to drink whiskey, but I like to drink it meat, which is basically just a shot. Right, you're just sipping, but you're sipping it. Right, is what I'm saying. Right, but like if somebody handed me a shot of Jameson I'd be like, ah, like no, even though it's the same thing, can I have a big rock please to pour that over so I can just sip it? Just sip it, yeah, anyway, acted so I did not like how, like holier than thou, they acted.
Speaker 1:They were really being a lot. They were being a lot, yeah, like clutching their pearls. Yeah, bitch, you are at a party, at a golf course. What did you think was with a bunch of teenagers that needs a password to like get hello? Yeah, exactly, get out of here. Yeah, that was a bit much and like, I mean, joey was like babysitting dawson. She was like I just don't want you to make. I know you're in a bad place, I don't, you're in a bad place. She was like his chaperone or something. That was really weird. They were too much. I didn't love that.
Speaker 1:I said I was happy to see Doug Pacey's brother I know he's so cute but then immediately the gay stereotyping. And then Pacey actually says, oh, I'm about to like call you out and call you gay because of this music and I was like, oh my lord, but I was happy Doug was in the episode either way and I actually for how dead I am inside when it comes to romance, as we've discussed on this show before, and my husband listened to one recently and I was like, okay, I love Valentine's Day, what I love Valentine's Day, and not even like I hate it. Romantically, yes, but just in general, especially since being a parent like I'll make the heart shaped pancakes and I'm like not that person, but I love Valentine's Day, that's so. I would not have thought that I love making Valentine cards. I love everything about it. So what I love, like hearing what my kids are up to like, especially now they have like significant others. I'm like, ooh, what are you doing for Valentine's Day? I love hearing about it. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1:I am opposite. I hate Valentine's Day because it is a holiday. I feel like that is a capitalistic adventure. It is, and I hate it. I also don't like it gives you these obligations that you have to do these things to show. I would rather you show me you love me a different day. Yeah, like, take me out to dinner another day.
Speaker 1:I'm not, and I don't like getting flowers. I love heart-shaped pizzas. I will order a heart-shaped pizza every Valentine's Day. Your heart is the best. I just love it. I literally am not. I'm just not a Valentine's Day. Now.
Speaker 1:I used to do like my kids. You know, they have to have Valentine's Day boxes for school. Yes, I made some banging. Oh, I bet you made some really good ones. Yes, my Darth Vader one was one of my faves. Ooh, but that was fun. I used to like to do that, and then I used to like to help them make whatever.
Speaker 1:But Valentine's Day in and of itself. I'm the opposite of you. Oh, I love it. That's so funny. I would not have expected that.
Speaker 1:So when Grams was like really into it, I was feeling that she was like all excited that it was Valentine's Day. How have we not talked about that before? I just thought of it when I was watching I was like you know, I really enjoy Valentine's Day, but like y'all, do y'all go out on Valentine's Day? We don't out on Valentine's Day. We don't, because it seems like Brant would be like I am not. No, he'll usually make me dinner, though. Okay, well, that's nice. Usually anything like our anniversary or Valentine's Day or my birthday or whatever. He'll make me a nice dinner, that's nice, which is really nice. But I think Tegan was our server on Valentine's Day. Oh yes, that's so cute. She brought us food out. So that was nice Tegan's. Anyway, I just thought it was fun that Grams was so into it.
Speaker 1:And then there was the Heather Graham reference. Oh yeah, I just loved that how she like slipped in there. Yeah, I said again, Henry and Jen look alike. I know I did feel bad for him, though, passing out after the plasma. So they're kind of getting on track. They're at the nice restaurant, yeah, and you know it's funny, I yeah, and then he, and you know it's funny. I mean, I watched it in one sitting but I had already forgotten and I was like, oh my god, did someone drug him? Oh my god, he passed out. And then he says something about the plasma. It was like literally 15 minutes. I was like, oh yeah, he did do that. Your brain had a lot, my brain had a lot going on.
Speaker 1:Uh, okay, so then we've got I can't think of her name now the girl who comes from rh Island. Yeah, it doesn't matter. The friend, the friend who I've seen in other things, I can't place it, yeah, I don't know Around that time she was in a lot of stuff and she says the thing about how her ex-boyfriend said she was an acquired taste. Yeah, and I just said red flag, yeah, like to really think about. She was really annoying. Yeah, I didn't, I did not love her. Um, what'd she say?
Speaker 1:Oh, and so then jen gets back from the date with henry and he's passed out. Sorry, cooper's texting me. He's home by himself. I'm just making sure he probably just wants me to get him lunch. Yeah, he wants door dash 100 on the way home. Perfect, get me some food. I knew that. Sorry, I just have to make sure that nothing's on fire or no. And if you take him food, hopefully nothing will be on fire.
Speaker 1:And this kid that's another reason why school needs to start. He'd be needing food and lunch. They always are like kate. Kate goes out to lunch with his friends constantly, or amelia, they go get food. And I don't pay for that, though, right, that's not out of your pocket. So, whatever, I don't care, you go buy yourself food. I did that a lot when I was that age. I did too. Yeah, but I have paid for Coopers, right, his, you have too, so sick. Get you something yummy. Anyway, sorry, get you something you want. Okay.
Speaker 1:So Jen gets home from the, but he's got to get checked out and Grams is like asking about it and Jen's like she doesn't say what happened, but she's just like it didn't go well. It was kind of a disaster. And so this was their first official date and it was weird because Grams was like you're going to let one sour experience, because she said I don't think we're going to go out again and I'm like, well, if it doesn't go well, that's a lot. That was a lot. She's like it's orange. It was a lot. And I was so over his needy self at this point that I was like I did feel bad for him, though With the passing out though I did, I did. Yeah, that made him a little more, but then he gave her a ring after that. So then I annoyed again but um, too much. Okay, then Dawson has that conversation with his dad.
Speaker 1:So they all get busted at the party and they end up in jail. Yeah, and let's talk about cops busting parties, cause that also brought back memories for me a lot. My friend, I had a friend in high school whose name is Charlie, and if anybody I don't think anybody I went to high school with, but anybody I went to high school with remembers parties at charlie's house, because his mom was never there, okay, okay, but he lived in a small house in the suburbs, oh yeah. So like, it was like obvious if there was a party all the time and the cops would come in and they'd be like charlie, like dude, yeah, but as soon as we heard him, everybody had an exit strategy. Right, like you would run out one door, pop through window, you'd hide in the closet because you get caught.
Speaker 1:First of all, the cops back then were not wasting their time taking you to jail. No, they ain't dealing with that. They're either going to write you a ticket or call your parents. Yeah, but most of the time they're just like. I feel like most of the time they would slowly enter a house. So people would hurry up and trickle out. Right, it was more about, like, the fear that they could come. Yeah, less about how many teenagers can we bust for this and literally arrest?
Speaker 1:Yes, and in college though that's when I got serious I, before school even started, I was at school early to go through sorority rush, went to a fraternity party. This was after rush, but like we had some gap time before school started, go to a fraternity party, walking down the street with a beer in my hand. Oh my God Cause guys, you know I'm from South Louisiana, where you could walk around a lot of streets with open container, also at 17. And guess who got a ticket? You, me, before school even starts. Now, did you have to tell your parents about it, since you were an adult? I did, because I. No, I wasn't, I was 17. I thought you said you were 19. Sorry, I was 17. Oh yeah, which was shitty, because then I wouldn't have if I would have been 18. Yeah, it made it way worse for me. But my sister still lived in town and I was like, can you call them and tell them? And she's like oh Jesus, danny, I think she did. And anyway I ended up having to go to court. My mom had to drive there, go to court with me.
Speaker 1:I got community service, like a whole bunch of hours. Did I learn my lesson? No, didn't work, but I paid a fine and did community service. They have to do something. So there you go. Yeah, I'm in high school too.
Speaker 1:I remember just a few places we would go, party or whatever, and I wasn't a big partier, but I'd want to go for the social aspect and yeah, just like everyone running all the different directions, yeah, that's probably still happens. I I don't know. Yeah, that still happened, I guess. I guess I don't know and even in college, although I don't ever remember being busted at a college party, but I'm sure that there were some. I just don't remember right now. I do. It happened a lot.
Speaker 1:So in this episode they all end up in jail. In jail, which helps the storytelling it does, because then they're all stuck. They're all stuck. And it comes out that Dawson and the girl from Rhode Island almost kissed yes, and Joey about has a cow. I know, I'm so over them. And I loved Pacey's commentary, yeah, because it was so like for the force hundred and seventy fourth round, it was so on point, he's like God, get over. Like he's just come on, like will they, won't they? We're so sick of this. Yeah, I'm like, thank you. Thank you, pacey. You're speaking for the audience also.
Speaker 1:My favorite scene that also brought back memories was Pacey in the beer funnel. Yes, tree root in the. Did I ever tell you my beer funnel story? I feel like maybe, but tell me again, or tell us again. I mean, I have several, but so beer, beer funnel is the dumbest thing in the history of the world, by the way. Let me, let me, let me put that disclaimer, but it's something I did partake in when I was in college, every now and then.
Speaker 1:But I can remember we were going I don't remember if I was having a party or I was going to a party and my roommate and I decided we wanted to make a beer funnel. That was a two-person beer funnel. You guys were going to make it. Yeah, because this was back when you had to make them. You could not buy them, true, you had to make them, true. So we go to the hardware store. This is crazy. All the kids, all the people working there were like college dudes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So we walk in we find somebody we don't know what the hell to buy and I said to him hello, we're trying to make a beer funnel, can you help us make one? And he's like I mean, I'm not supposed to, but here's what you want to do. So he like helps us. We find like an extra big, like whatever. I guess it's like for oil changes or whatever. Plus he gave us this plumbing piece that was like two separate things. Plus he cut the wire and he's like, well, like we're not supposed to like help you do this, and so we did. We had a two and it worked. It worked, dang. That's so funny. He's like I have no idea what if anyone asks I did not help you guys, but isn't that dumb? Like that's the dumbest. And that you like walked into a store and like asked someone's for someone's help on that.
Speaker 1:I love it, guys. I don't know, but as soon as I saw Pacey, I was like, oh my god and I'm trying to remember now which roommate of mine it was that we went together. I think it was my friend Beth. I'm gonna text her after after this and ask her about it and why what festivity it was we were, that this was the thing making it. I think I want to say it was like guys bid day for like the fraternities. They would all have these big parties. I think that's what it was for. I love it.
Speaker 1:So who knows how many people use that nasty thing? Yeah, oh, I know gross. Well, that's something you can be proud of. Do it yourself. No, it's not. It's not. No, that's why I made the disclaimer. It's the dumbest thing, but it isn't something I did. It is a thing and I can laugh about it now because I'm fine, you're okay, okay and everybody was safe from that event. Correct, which isn't always the case. But binge drinking is dumb, correct, 100% dumb, so don't do it. No beer funnels, no beer funnels, okay.
Speaker 1:So then Dawson has this interaction with Mitch after he gets out of jail, yeah, where Mitch is first of all just eating ice cream out of container, which was kind of random. That just didn't feel like his character. Well, I guess, because it was supposed to be like the wee hours of the morning, I guess maybe it's like I'm up so I'm gonna eat ice cream, I guess maybe it was weird. And he so he kind of tells him or he he's upset with dawson and he brings up when he crashed the boat and like other stuff. That's been kind of reckless of him lately. And then he says well, here's what we're going to do. Your mom's opening that restaurant. He's like she is and I'm like she is like looking back through my notes, and he's like you're going to work there every night, every weekend, and I was like okay, like I don't know that like the cause and effect really align here, I know, but I, like dawson said to him.
Speaker 1:Dawson's kind of trying to defend his choices and he's like I'm trying to get back to the business of being, or basics of being, a kid, but what? Yeah, well, but then his dad was right, because he's like I'm fine with you being a kid, but being an idiot. Or he didn't say being an idiot, but like being unsafe, and like that he was totally valid. He was totally valid. I mean, he was being a parent, he was doing a good job, but that was just like that was Dawson's defense. I'm just trying to loosen up a little bit and be my age, but it's like, well, no, but that's not you, dawson, like I'm totally fine with am because you've been drinking or whatever. Yeah, like in jail, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, all I had at.
Speaker 1:I said the end of the episode is one time of many for a while where you think Pacey and Joey are about to get together, Mm, hmm, and then they don't. He talks to her about the gear shift thing in the car. You're like, oh, he's going to say it. He's like there's something I've been meaning to tell you your shifting is wrong, let's go practice. Yeah, I'm trying to remember when they finally do get together.
Speaker 1:I think it's at the end of this season. Okay, I think it's at the end. So, like six or seven more episodes, yeah, six ish, I think it is. Wow, that's a lot of episodes. I know, that's what I'm saying. This is like the first time of many where you're like, oh, and she's all mad at him because of what he said in the jail cell, like you said, the commentary that was correct. But then she kind of melts a little bit and they go driving and that's how it ends. End of that one. Anyway, these were, these were okay. There there were definitely moments I really liked and then moments again, it's not anything. On the actors the actors are all lovely. The writing is not great, not great, but anyway it's terrible.
Speaker 1:Let us know what you thought and let us know what you think about season three in general. How's it going for you? Uh, are you looking forward to pacey and joey's? Uh-oh, you're running out of pages, running out of pages of my care bear notebook. I gave you that. I got to get you another one. They have a whole bunch at five below. I'm going to go get some more. Okay, they have other. Wait and see what I. I'm going to wait. I will wait. Okay, good, so we're getting. We'll have to get to the end of the. I guess maybe they'll align. Do you have a special notebook, or is that just one? I know this is just one, but but when I opened it I did have some oh to do. That's not it. I did have some Dawson's notes from season two in here. Fun, they're just everywhere. Yeah see, anyway, thanks for listening listeners, and we'll see you next time on generation in between. Bye, see ya.
