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Ask Us Anything: Hot Dogs, Aging and Self-Limiting Beliefs

Dani & Katie Season 1 Episode 105

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Where do flies go at night?

Are hot dogs a sandwich?

What's your biggest self-limiting belief that is holding you back?

Katie and Dani step outside their usual format to answer listener questions covering everything from life as 40-somethings to fashion trends they'd axe.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome to Generation Inbetween, a Zennial podcast where normally we remember, revisit and sometimes relearn all kinds of things from being 80s kids and 90s teens. But today we are doing something very different, so we're going to answer some questions that our listeners have given us. We posted a little call to action on our social media saying ask us anything. You can ask us about being 80s kids, 90s teens, you can ask us about Zennial midlife or whatever, and we actually got a bunch of stuff. We got a really good mix. Yeah, we did, and so what I did was I wrote every question one by one on and who asked it, because some people asked multiple on little note cards and I put them in this beautiful glittery gift bag that actually Lindsay gave to me with a present in it when I saw her last. I love it. So, hey, lindsay, she's our listener and friend who listens to us on high speed, yep, so she gets to hear our answers to these. Ask Anything. If, for some reason, this is your first episode, yeah, I am Katie and I am Dani, but it probably isn't if you're listening to this one. But you never know, well, you never know. And actually this would be a good intro episode. That's true, because we're not. Usually we talk about something very specific, a specific topic, and go off on little tangents, of course, but this is going to be a little bit of a lot about us and how we feel about things. Yeah, and some of the questions are silly and some are pretty deep thoughts, yeah, some of them. So I and I was like, whenever we said we're going to do this, we didn't really talk about how we were going to do this. So I was, and I was seeing all the questions and I was like, well, I don't want us to plan ahead of time what we're going to say. And I was like I don't want to have them in a list, because then we you know, so anyway. So I was like, well, let me just write them down and we'll just pull them randomly. I love it. Well, we may not answer all of them. We'll save some and maybe do them the next time or whatever, um, but we're just gonna go, let's do it. We might get to all of them, I don't know. Yeah, you're gonna pull the first one, the first one, okay. And then I wrote the the person who's like a nice card, stop, I, I know, or no, you said no cards, no cards, no cards, okay. Okay, this is a pretty good one. This one's from Stephanie Yay Name, a band from the 90s and a band from today. You'd like to see duel it out in the battle of the bands. Nice, I love that question. That's a good one.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think let's change it to to include, and also we are probably going to add and modify things, cause that's what we do. Yeah, singers too. Right, that could be like a singer off, sing off. Okay, I like that. That's so. It's going to take us a second, so let's just think and brainstorm.

Speaker 1:

I would probably have to start with singers, cause I think that that would. What do you got? I would see, like Mariah Carey in her heyday versus Ariana Grande oh, that is such a good in her heyday. Obviously not right now. Well, yeah, that wouldn't be fair. Ariana's a young vocalist and Mariah's been singing her whole life, but, yeah, at the same age. Yes, but battling it out on some really good, and that'd be mine. I have to think about a band, but singer wise, that would be mine. I have to think about a band, but singer wise, that would be mine.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to. I don't know a lot of bands from today, like bands, right, that's kind of my problem. I'm like I'm like I'm not a huge like music person, like I listened to a lot of pop and like I don't know, I'm trying, I'm getting stressed out, like I think, if we're gonna do singers, I would like to see Britney in her heyday battle it with Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, because I think Sabrina would win, she probably would. It depends what they're battling, because if they're battling as performers and Sabrina's an amazing performer, she's an amazing performer, she's an amazing performer, but Brittany's also an amazing performer. Um, ooh, let's also do Broadway.

Speaker 1:

Cast of the nineties Okay. And today I would say the original cast of rent. That's what I was going to say, okay. So then who would you say? I don't know, that was all as far as I got, that's as far as you got. Maybe the cast of Hamilton, oh, okay, yeah, because they're both operettas, yep, and they both have rock components in them. So I would say Rent versus Hamilton. That's good. Yeah, that'd be a good one. I'm going to just agree with you on that because that one's a good one. Yeah, I mean, we could talk about the original cast of Wicked. That was like late 90s, early 2000s, versus I don't even know who.

Speaker 1:

What's a modern musical? Well, there's a lot of them, but I'm just trying to think of one that would be sort of similar, or it doesn't even have to be similar. Yeah, I guess it doesn't have to be. I mean, you could say Hadestown maybe, okay, because that's fantastical in its own way. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's an even match.

Speaker 1:

I'm still trying to think of bands. I'm like dead on the ground of bands. I haven't said a band I know, not even close. Sorry, stephanie, to let you down, sorry. And here's the fun part about this episode is, whenever we do stuff like this, people tell us that they like scream at us as they're listening, like cause we're not giving the answer. You are welcome to comment on our socials with your choices. Please do. Band duels, singer duel, broadway duel it's also hard to, I think, to answer on the spot. It is hard. Yeah, I'm going to think about the band one. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

All right, we, we'll come back, we'll see if it ruminates, okay, and then we, you pick the next one. Okay, all right, that was a good one to start with. That was a good one. Got note cards flying every which way. Oh, this one's good. Okay, this is from hannah. This is our friend over in england. Yay, all right.

Speaker 1:

Hannah said what is one thing you'd ask, like axeE AXE from your childhood, and she put in parentheses like fashion trends, et cetera. Okay, and one thing you'd bring back. Okay, I love that. I already know what I'm going to say and this is going to be not, this is going to be from my teen years, which is still my childhood. I'm plucking my eyebrows would be an ax. Got it, got it. Oh, my God, I'm still reeling from that, the nineties, what they did to my eyebrows permanently. And then I think you know what I would bring back.

Speaker 1:

I think we need to bring back the chunky highlights. I feel like they've come back a little bit. Do you know what I'm talking about? In your hair, you mean, well, I can't wear them anymore. Well, yes, I'm not allowed to. I'm not allowed. My hair does not allow me to do things crazy, and when I do, then I end up right back here. I think we need to bring those back.

Speaker 1:

Just in general, I like that and I see, I think maybe they are starting to come back because I've seen a few people. You know what I mean, right? Yeah, like the big chunky, like drastic. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I loved that. I do too. I think it looks great, all right, so what about you? Okay, so I would ask, oh my gosh, while we were talking about this I thought of it, oh, which still exists. But I would axe that just gone. No tanning bed culture.

Speaker 1:

And then I would bring back, like the family-centered sitcom, oh love, because we don't. There aren't that many. I know some of the networks try to do them, like the big networks still try to do them, but we've got all these like different streaming things you binge and I and I enjoy how media has changed, but I would love just a good step-by-step or a Family Matters or a Full House when you have 29 minutes to get everything wrapped up. Absolutely, answer all your problems, bring it back, I'm ready for it. I don't think I'm ready, I don't think I care about that, but I hear that you know what else Fashion trends never need. The thing that's interesting about fashion is lots of stuff has already come back that I was going to say and I really wish these two things never would have come, would have come back from our childhood era Wouldn't have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, pleated pants. I like pleated pants. Girl, nobody looks good in pleated pants. Maybe Are you serious. I like pleated pants. Do not ever wear pleated pants. Maybe Are you serious. I like pleated pants. Do not ever wear pleated pants. I'm going to wear them next time. Nobody Men, women, nobody looks good in pleated pants. Okay, if you can show me a person who looks good in pleated pants, I'll find one. I'll give you a dollar it's not me, but I'll find one Pleated pants. Now, look, she's going to go find a picture of Joshua Jackson wearing pleated pants and then I'm going to have to, or something that's fine.

Speaker 1:

Pleated pants and bodysuits yeah, because guys, those snaps suck, they do, they do not do right, I agree, I like the look of a bodysuit, I do too, but like the feel and the wear of a bodysuit, I do too. But like the feel and the wear of a bodysuit, is not it Like those snaps? Yeah, snaps, it's like a onesie, it's like wearing a onesie. Except when babies got onesies on, they got diapers to cushion the buttons in your crotch. I know, it's horrible, horrendous.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always wondered why couldn't you just like wear it like a leotard well, I think it's, so you can go to the bathroom. Oh, yeah, okay, but then that's a whole thing, because going to the bathroom in a bodysuit is a whole adventure. It is because then you have to unbutton and then you're like in there trying to like do gymnastics to snap them back. Yeah, god help you if you're having problems, because then what do you do? Right? You, especially if you're like, yeah, if you're like out in public or something like it's like when you have problems with a zipper. You could be like, hey, can you help me with the zipper? You can't be like, help me with my crotch snap. Can you snap my crotch? I can't get to it. Oh, my gosh, that was a good one. I like that one.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so yours was more fashion based, but I didn't have to say fashion, right? No, I don't know, we make sure I didn't do Hannah wrong. No, you didn't, I don't think. Oh, okay, we've got another one from Stephanie. This one's. Well, I don't know. This could be a long answer. Okay, all right, is a hot dog a sandwich? Okay. When I saw she wrote that, my brain started swirling and I had to like put the brakes because I was like brain, you need to swirl when we're recording, right? I don't know. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

First, let's discuss what is a sandwich, a definition of a sandwich. I guess it's just anything between bread, right? So in that case a hot dog would be. But then, is a hamburger a sandwich? No, it's its own thing, right? Or is a hamburger a sandwich? I think it is. Yeah, I would say a hamburger is Really. Yeah, I think so, because you can have a chicken sandwich. That's basically a hamburger a sandwich. I think it is. Yeah, I would say a hamburger is Really. Yeah, I think so, because you can have a chicken sandwich. That's basically a hamburger. It's just chicken. You know, that's true. Yeah, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1:

Why don't we call hamburgers like cow sandwiches? Oh Well, a chicken sandwich is the meat product that it is, I know On, and you say sandwich. So why do we have to call it a hamburger? It's not even ham? No, it's not. And why don't we call it a chicken burger, like, why not? Yeah, why don't we call it a cow sandwich, chicken sandwich. So this would be a wiener sandwich? Yes, yes, it would be.

Speaker 1:

Could you imagine being like I would like an extra long wiener sandwich, the ballpark hey, no, I can't, but I could. I could hear you ordering it. I can hear it Next time you go, next time I mean I don't know if you go places where you order hot dogs very often you should say can I please have one wiener sandwich? Okay, you're right, I don't order hot dogs often. I mean, I'll do it if you want. I just what would be the funniest is be like can I have a wiener sandwich? And they're like do you mean a hot dog? Or what, if? What? If it was like a guy and he was like oh yes, you can, I would die, I would leave, I would not get my food, I would not pay for it. Well, now I'm panicked. Now I'm panicked.

Speaker 1:

This made me just think of a story that happened with our friend Ashley. It has nothing to do with wiener sandwiches, oh good. But I'm just like, as we're talking, I'm like, oh my God, what if a wiener sandwich really is something like sexual? And we don't know this Right, because we're not in the world of knowing these things. Yes, well, I realize I have been doing something really embarrassing when I'm bartending that I had no idea meant something um, sexual. Oh, I am so embarrassed. Are you ready? Ashley told you Ashley had to. Okay, this is what happened.

Speaker 1:

So I was bartending at the theater last weekend and, uh, our friends Ashley was there watching her kiddo perform and our friend Sarah was there watching her kiddo. They were both at the bar together. We were chatting. They were, we were chatting and I was getting something, I think, for somebody else. And every time people order I will repeat it as I'm grabbing it Right.

Speaker 1:

So I'm heading to the fridge because somebody ordered a water and a Dr Pepper and I always say like, okay, one water, one DP. Now, for those of you who know what this means are probably out there dying laughing. Okay, I always and I'm loud so you can hear me say. So you can hear me saying yeah, you want a DP, one DP for you, okay, whatever. So Ashley goes, danny, not DP.

Speaker 1:

And I was like what? Sarah, also clueless, and she's like you know. And I was like I literally don't know. And I say that when I'm bartending all the time and she's starts laughing, she's like I'll tell you in a second. So people walked away and she goes.

Speaker 1:

Dp means double penetration. And I was like, oh shit. And I said, well, maybe that's why I've gotten good tips today. I don't know. She's very excited about a DP. Oh my gosh, oh my God. I literally have done that for two, three years now. Well, nobody has told me we're old and boring, we don't know. But also I work with some males who have very dirty jokes and they have not fixed it.

Speaker 1:

So if y'all been laughing at me behind my back which they probably are, they probably are are they're probably mad at ashley, for I know telling you I shall never say that one dp again. No, I didn't know. As you're trying to say, that's like I wonder what it's gonna be okay, so back to our question. Oh, so you didn't know. No, you were laughing. No, I was. No, no, I have no idea. Okay, well, you're like everyone's probably laughing at me. So I just laughed because, oh, I thought you were like everyone's probably laughing at me. So I just laughed because you were like, yeah, dummy, no, I have no idea. I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

I call Dr Pepper DP. I don't know, you won't yell it in my workspace, but I say it to like whoever is there. So I will. I'm gonna go in the kitchen real quick for some DP, or are you right? When I order my wiener sandwich, I'll ask for a DP. Can I have a wiener sandwich and a DP pronto? Oh my gosh, all right.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think a hot dog is a sandwich. Period, you do. I do Because I just think that's anything between bread, even though we call it different stuff. It's like sandwiched is the verb right, because it's something in between the two things. So I think that works for a hot dog. I still think it's its own entity, okay, I mean, which doesn't make sense. I'm not going to die on this hill. Yeah, I know it doesn't matter, I don't care either way, but I think it is a sandwich. I do think, though, if it is a sandwich, then we need to start calling it a wiener sandwich. Okay, so you're now, let's see if we can make that happen. Well, for you, you think it's a sandwich, so then, do you think it should be called a hot dog sandwich? Yeah, maybe not a wiener, definitely not a wiener.

Speaker 1:

The reason I always say wiener is because my grandma, my nani, used to always say that, and she would laugh so hard. She just thought it was. She would only call hot dogs wieners, because she thought it was funny. Oh my god, yeah, oh, that's cute. Actually she's kind of dirty, but that's fine, that's fine. She had a good sense of humor anyway. Did Nana Wait? Did you say Nana? No, nani, nani? Okay, all right, all right. So we disagreed on that. We did disagree on that, but we're ready to hear. If you think a hot dog is a sandwich. Yes, all right. This is from Stephanie too. She had a lot of them, okay, so Hannah also had several. So, okay, this is a good one.

Speaker 1:

Do you think school was harder in the 90s than it is now? No, why? I just think the expectations for school now are so much higher? I did too. I mean, statistically speaking, it is much harder to get into college now than it was. Like I don't think. Like I mean, I had great grades but my ACT score was totally mid and I don't think I would have been able to get into the school I went to. Okay, yeah, I mean I think that, like there was more access to higher education, yeah, but I also just think, yeah, all the different. It's almost like every time a new requirements added, nothing goes away. Yeah, so if you take from like when we were in high school, late 90s, to now, and if you take whatever those requirements were and just keep adding to it. Oh, I see what you're saying. See what I mean. Yeah, we're where we are now, but also, I don't know, I feel like it's also.

Speaker 1:

I feel like it was harder in the sense that we did not have access to resources like they have now. It's like writing a research paper took so much more legwork. You had to go to a library, you had to go in a card catalog, you had to find books, physical books, encyclopedias, microfiche, film. You had to print things out. You had I. I mean, now you can do that all from home on your computer, sure, and like probably three times less. But then I wonder and I don't know because I'm not currently in school, I just know through the eyes of my kids if then that's what's made the requirements higher. Maybe because you can do it faster, instead of being like great, we're efficient, now we go. Okay, we have more time. What other thing can we have you do? Or learn, Not that learning is bad, but I think it's harder.

Speaker 1:

I do think it's also harder on teachers, for a litany of reasons, but in that vein, because kids have so much more access to plagiarizing stuff, yeah, and cheating, yep, that man, those teachers, and you can't like. It's physical. First of all, teachers get paid shit, so like they, and they do so much overtime that they do not get compensated for to grade papers and stuff. They don't have the time to check every single thing. A shift that I've seen in the last couple of years, especially since chat, gpt was introduced, is my kids' teachers not giving homework for that reason. Yeah, and having them handwrite their essays in class, do their math homework in class, like because it's not that they don't believe in homework or whatever it's that they can't trust that what they're turning in is their work. The only way they can do that is to control the environment. Yeah, and I think that's an interesting shift that we're going to see, because if you can't trust anything they're bringing from home, then that's kind of the end of homework.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't think you should have homework. I don't think you should have homework. I think a couple of projects a year outside of school Fine, although I hate science projects, but like that is fine, but I don't think you should have to have homework. I feel that I don't. I really don't, and I feel like there are more teachers who agree with that nowadays, for whatever reason, but I just I think it's unnecessary. I mean, and if you do have it, it should be short and it should be only reinforcing what you learned in school, not extra.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, and that's the other thing. That's changed even. I mean, I know you were busy when you were a teen, and so was I, but it's it's even more now. Yeah, were busy when you were a teen, and so was I, but it's even more now. And the family unit is just so busy that I don't know. I don't mean to say like homework shouldn't be a priority, but with everything else you've got going on, where do you put that? Well, you're at school for seven hours a day, right, so then the rest of that time, to kind of your point, should be yours or your family's, and if you're going to sports or something extracurricular, fine, yeah. But, like you said, you've kind of put in your time. Well, I mean, you have to study for tests and all that stuff. Sure, sure, you know anyway, okay, anyway, okay. Next one, next one, I'm going to go to the bottom.

Speaker 1:

We agreed on that one, we, oh gosh, okay, here we go. Oops, let's see what we got. Okay, it's from Cody. All right, cody. Oh, this is so funny. I know because he said he was just kidding. I wish I could say it in his voice. Do it Try? What's your favorite scary movie? That was good. I don't know if your voice can go as low as his can. That was about as low as it goes.

Speaker 1:

Scary movie, I would say, let's say, from that time period, 80s or 90s. Okay, that's a good idea. Yeah, I like scream, I like the whole scream series. Yeah, he actually already had asked us that. He's like I'm just kidding, we already talked about that like for an hour. It's fine and but I think there's people now who listen that may have missed it. So, katie likes scream. Well, I love the lost boys, which isn't technically super scary, but it is in a horror genre. Okay, I love that movie. I honestly love the Blair Witch Project.

Speaker 1:

For so many reasons I also like the Blair Witch Project, but there is a movie that was actually from the 70s called the Changeling, oh yeah, okay, I will never watch it again, which is interesting because but I'm telling you I wouldn't say it was my favorite, but I think it's one of the best scary movies. You would really like it because it's a lot of like mystery solving. Cool, you would like it, but it's scary too, and I remember watching that with my mom and like a friend of hers, because we rented movies like crazy and I was terrified. It has little kid ghosts. Oh, there's nothing gory, nothing like um, like it's all the what you don't see kind of thing. Right, oh, that's scary, like psychological, and there was like there's this like creepy, like rocking chair and this bouncing ball that always comes down the stairs. I just might need to see that one. It's good. I don't, I know it was. It was from the seventies. I can't remember the, the older guy who was the lead actor, but, um, that was probably. That's probably one of the best ones. I also love all the Stephen Kings, which is completely opposite, right, gory and gross and um, but yeah, lost Boys, though, is like one of my top favorite movies and that's one I haven't seen. It's on our spooky list schedule. I love it. Season schedule I love vampires.

Speaker 1:

Ok, I'm not a vampire, I don't hate them, but I don't, I don't. Thankfully, please don't get mad at me if you're listening and you're a vampire. It's not like, oh, I'm not going to watch that, but it's just like, not your thing. Yeah, I do love vampires and you know, when I fell in love with them is when I read Anne Rice. Okay, especially because all her, you know, she's from New Orleans, so all her books take place like in New Orleans, and I read those when I was a teenager interview the vampire. And I read those when I was a teenager interview the vampire. And there's one this, the one that came after that, cause it's like a whole list that has a whole series. But anyway, love them. Awesome, love me, a vampire.

Speaker 1:

I need to watch Nosferatu, cause that is, you know, the, the latest game. I don't know if I'll like vampires as much after you watch it, yeah, I. I don't know if I'll like vampires as much after you watch it. Yeah, I need to watch it. Okay, cool, anyway, yay, scary.

Speaker 1:

All right, that was a good question. All right, here we go. All right, next one, next one. Is it the one? It's a serious one. No, this is a good one.

Speaker 1:

This is actually from Ashley, who informed me what DP was. She is your urban, living, urban dictionary. She said what is your biggest self-limiting belief and how do you overcome it? We're going to let you take that one. Oh gosh, I did see this one come through on Instagram, I think she put it on, and so I've sort of been thinking about it. It's weird because I think we don't, like I think I'm pretty confident in most things. You are, you are.

Speaker 1:

So I had to, like think about it, but I would say, um, that okay, I don't know how to phrase it, but I've always been sort of like that, like I need to be a helper, or I need to be that, like my value to people is that I'm doing something for them. That's a limiting belief, because I feel like sometimes I look for ways to help, maybe when I don't need to, and so because I think maybe I'm not valuable to that person if they don't have this thing that they're relying on me for. I think I have a pattern of that. I don't think I do it as much as I used to, because ain't nobody got time for that and I just have a really strong group of people around me. But even my kids, like, especially my teens, I'll be like, oh, I got to do this thing for them, even if they don't need me to, because, like that means they need me for that thing.

Speaker 1:

So how do you overcome it. That was the second part. Oh dang, recognizing it and just being like like I've been really busy this summer. I mean, we're always busy, but like long spans that I'm not at home, which doesn't matter as much when the kids are in school, but being able to be like everyone's fine, yeah, I don't have to be there. I don't have to be checking on them constantly. I don't have to like be like I'll do this thing when I get back. For them to be like, feeling reassured that they need me, like they're OK, them to be like, feeling reassured that they need me, like they're okay. And so overcoming it is just like step-by-step, recognizing it and going. I don't need to be part of everything for people to need me or care about me.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a big one for me. Oh, that's, it's big. We're getting deep, getting deep. Well, wait till I open my mouth. Oh, is it about hot dogs? No, okay, wiener sandwiches, that's a good one. That's a good one. Well, maybe you know this one.

Speaker 1:

It's funny Cause you're like I'm pretty confident, I have to think about it and I'm like damn, I have a whole laundry list. I am completely the opposite, but you know what mine always comes down to you, like while I was sitting here and I'm listening to you, and you're like you find your worth and like helping, or you think that is your worth. So mine is kind of different, because I've never and you, as soon as I say this, you're going to be like, oh yeah, and this is in so many categories of my life is I feel like I'm not good enough? And see, I knew it as soon as I say it, it and I could put that, cause I'm like I have a laundry list but everything falls under that. Got it.

Speaker 1:

Everything falls under the sentence I am not good enough, and it is at parenting, it is at wifing, it is that friendship, it is a body competence, it is self-esteem, everything performing, which is weird because when you're a performer, you are judged constantly. Which is weird because when you're a performer, you are judged constantly Sure, on everything, I mean. And you are constantly in rooms with people who are levels ahead of you, sure, which is great, yeah, but when you struggle with thinking I am not good enough, it is really hard. So the second part of the question is how do you overcome it? Good question, right? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think I, I think I'm constantly trying to figure that shit out and it's like category by category, I will say, since we were, I was talking about performing and that's not as deep as some of the other things that I mentioned. I think part of the thing for me is to not compare myself. That's a good one. I have to just and it's really hard for us all I have to just not compare and just say you know what? You don't have to be as good as Katie at XYZ. You don't have to be. Nobody is forcing you to be. You just have to be yourself. Right, period. I think I'm getting better at that, yeah, and I think what really pushed me over to start being better at that is once Christmas story was done, and maybe that's the whole reason why I ended up having that role to begin with was to make me get past that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and um, it was funny because I was talking to somebody the other day about auditions and they were like oh, are you gonna have you thought about auditioning for a little shop? And I said, oh, yeah, like, just for, like a background person, if they, if they even cast it that way, cause they may not. You know, there's multiple ways to cast it and they're like, oh no, I thought you would audition for Audrey, and I started laughing and I was like no, and they were like why? And I said I'm not a musical in time and that's it. Not, that's it, but I'm okay if it is Right.

Speaker 1:

There's a difference between being like, oh, I only got my one shot on this one specific role because I'm not good enough for everything else. There's that Right. Or there's the gratitude component that's like, if I never get another role like this, I've had this, I had that. And so I think finding the balance in that and not masking the one thing, which is the lack of self-confidence in the other thing, exactly, and masking with, like, optimism or gratitude, those are great things. But when you're using it to kind of cover how you really feel, then that's when it's a problem. Yeah, and I mask with humor I think you'd be a great Audrey, I, you know, or anything in that show. That's such a fun show. I know, we'll see, we'll see how they cast it, because I don't, I don't know what, that's just an example, but that's just. I was just giving an example, yeah, so that's mine.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, I don't know, I, cause I, I was telling Troy one time, this wasn't that long ago, we were in bed at night and I sat, like you know, when you have kids, you're constantly feeling guilty about something, always, right, I can't even imagine having five kids. Like I said, like this summer I've really been battling it. I've been like I'm not here and my husband will be the one, that's like. And they still did all the things they needed to do today and most of them weren't even here because they were with friends and like, like not to be rude, but like everything was the same whether you were here or not. And obviously you know there's the human component to that, but generally he's right, yeah, like I don't have to be there for their world to revolve, because I've raised them to this point to not need to do all that. You know, and that's part of kids getting older. Absolutely you have to let them yes, yes, sorry, interrupted.

Speaker 1:

You said you and troy were feeling guilty about being parents. You were in bed, oh, yeah, and I'm like do you have good? Like I said, every night when I go to bed I think, shit, wow, I fucked that up again. Like I fucked this up and I said do you ever feel like that. He was like you feel like that every night and I said 100% and he's like, yeah, I don't. And I'm like I feel like he's so much better at like being like, yeah, we're going to mess up, but we're doing the best we can and there is fine. I like I'm not kidding, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so impatient which I am and I'm like, oh, it's so annoying. And like blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:

And I I shouldn't have said this or reacted too soon, or I should have spent more time, or like and on the flip side, I do see my kids a lot because I'm not working a lot this summer because fitness people put on the back burner oh, I bet, and that's okay, like that's just the way it goes. But we have the opposite problem, right? So I feel, even though I'm there, I still have shit to do because I'm the default parent. Sure, right, you know it's the same for you guys. It's a brand, yeah. So, anyway, I just think it's funny because I'm like I feel guilty and shitty every day about this when I get like every day and he's like, yeah, that's probably a problem. Yeah, well, that goes back to your umbrella, that you think you're not good enough. That's what I'm saying. It goes, everything goes back, like I. I think that that is, and my sister has the same battle, but hers is different. It it shows itself in different ways. Okay, cause her and I both have that.

Speaker 1:

It's very interesting because you're both pretty high achievers. Yeah, like you're, when you do stuff, you're like really good at the things you do. I don't know it's, it's, but it's not rational, it's not logical, it's not like because you're good at things, you're confident. That's not like how it works. No, I wish it did. You know, I think for me I've just done a lot of hard work and every brain is different. So the way I did this worked for me to just become okay with who I am and to keep stepping, day by day, more into who that is, which I've now.

Speaker 1:

I actually was thinking the other day because, you know, still in the growth stage for my, for my studio business, I just lost my job not that long ago and we're starting to feel now some of the financial effects of that. But, like my business hasn't grown big enough yet and so it's kind of this in between, like I can see it's going to be okay, but it's a little stressful at the moment and I was thinking I was just like sitting at a stoplight and I was driving to my studio over in West Melbourne and thinking, okay, and then after that I'll go to rehearsal, and then I thought this is my job. Right, this is what you want. Like I woke up today and I did not have to log into anything, I did not have to be on a zoom call. I woke up, got my music all together, I'm going to teach a lesson and then I'm gonna work on like details for a show that I'm directing and then I'm gonna go rehearse that show. Like that's my work day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it did make me feel like really a lot of gratitude. Yeah, so that's kind of beside the point, but like in the midst of it all, I'm like look, when I had that other job, I would be stressed whether it was money, whether it was the job itself. So if right now I'm a little bit like, oh, how am I going to do this? How am I going to make this happen? At least it's for this thing and not for just like someone else's idea that I'm helping build and not getting paid enough to do. Yeah, well, and that's what we were talking about this last week, when I came in to record with Katie, we were talking about this and I said that You're like I'm just overwhelmed and we were talking about money, because adulting sucks and the world's expensive and that's just you know.

Speaker 1:

And I remember you saying I might as well just have another full-time job. And I said, but you wouldn't be doing what you're doing now, like it's different, it's a different stress, it's different and it just like hit me in that moment, at that stoplight, like I'm, like I am driving to this and my whole calendar today is like family stuff, taking kids places, whatever I need to do which I had to do with my full time job too but for my like work, work and my projects, like this is my day and even like podcasting, like this is ours. So what a like blessing it is to have your stuff and even like your fitness stuff, like that's yours, Like you're designing that to be what you want it to be, and everything's stressful. But anyway, okay, and I will try not to make it seem like my value is in people needing me for things and you're going to keep working on feeling good enough. Yeah, was that a good answer, ashley.

Speaker 1:

Do you remember? This is what I need to do and maybe I will write it down. Do you remember Cause you know I love Saturday night live back in the nineties, jack candy, deep thoughts, or no, was it? It wasn't. It wasn't Jack candy, it was the guy Phil Hartman played, and I'm blanking on his name, I know who you're talking about and he would look in the mirror and say I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh, darn it. People like me. Yes, I remember that. Oh, my gosh, it was Stuart something.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's what you have to do. Oh, I know that's what you have to do. That's hilarious. But see, you can say the words all you want, I know. But see, you can say the words all you want, I know. But the words we say to ourself matter. They do, Whether it's out loud or just in our head. I'm just going to walk around my house saying that my family's going to be like Jesus. Hey, here she goes. If it works, okay, here we go. Was it me? Okay, I think so. All right, let's see what time is it? We got a little bit of time. Oh, yeah, we got time. Okay, here we go. All right, stephanie's back. Ah, yay. Oh well, we kind of already said this. That's one thing from the 90s we need to bring back. Oh, we did, we kind of already did that one. That's kind of fun, though that was fun, we already addressed it, okay. Okay, hannah, oh, I like this one.

Speaker 1:

What's been your favorite age to be so far? So far, because it could be later. Let's believe that it's in the future, could be, it's still coming. But so far, what's been your favorite age to be, and why? Well, I say all the time my 40s has been my favorite decade, literally. Have you seen the lady on social media that's so popular now? Um, the I don't care lady, the we don't care club? No, oh, my God, whoever sent me that link? It was, I thought they sent it here, but maybe it was my personal. She is great, she it's. She's in her forties, it's like perimenopausal women, menopausal women, it's. She's like the we don't care club we do not care about whatever and she has like different lists and she has this notebook that she highlights. It's hilarious. I'm going to look anyway. She's like a viral sensation right now. Anyway, the my forties is the bin that decorated I have loved the most because, then, this relates to what I just said.

Speaker 1:

You do get to where you don't give a fuck anymore. You just do not care. And I say that because that sounds weird, because you should care. What I mean is you let go of things that don't matter. For instance, I'm going to speak my mind no matter who I'm around, and I used to not do that all the time, right, I would have certain people. You would adjust. I don't do that all the time, right, I would have certain people. Just, I don't do that, as y'all know, I don't do that anymore. Um, also, like if I want to wear something, I'm going to wear it and I don't fucking care. That's me too. I don't care.

Speaker 1:

I've gotten pretty good at that where I'm just like I don't care, I like it, I'm wearing it. Like whether it's quote unquote, flattering or not for someone, my age, whatever, whatever, I don't care. Also, like I used to be, my sister and I were talking about this, cause her and I were both like this, cause we've had skin problems like forever and we used to be very self-conscious about going places without makeup on. Okay, working in fitness has kind of like obviously adjusted that for me, because nobody's trying to, but I did used to work out with a full face makeup, which is wild, literally, I mean I get it, but we used to. But I did used to work out with a full face makeup, which is wild, literally, I mean I get it, but we used to.

Speaker 1:

People are staring at you. Yeah, we used to never leave the house, like I mean, when I was a stay at home mom of little kids, I would get up and put makeup on and fix my hair every day, whether I was leaving the house or not. Every day oh girl, not me, never. Well, but you like it's. It's hard because when you have skin problems, you want to cover them up. I get that. You know what I mean. I get that. Yeah, so it makes you very self-conscious, even though most of the time nobody's staring at your skin, like you know what I'm saying. Like well, yeah, but it's, it's how you present yourself to the world. So it makes you very self-conscious. So I'm like, well, if I'm putting on that kind of makeup, I might as well, like I'm already doing it, like I might as well put it on. And I was like the reason I think my sister and I both feel like that isn't just because of our skin problems. It's because that's how our mom was. She would never leave the house without eye makeup on, at least because she said, oh, I have little eyes or whatever I don't know what a reason, whatever, something like that. Yeah, and we. She never told us to do that. We were never like some houses in the South. You are told you leave the house looking perfect. She never told us that, right, but we saw her do that.

Speaker 1:

So my forties has been my favorite decade, but also for rewinding time, like when I was like 17, 18, 19,. That was a good time. Like when I went to college and you like had sort of kind of responsibilities, right, but not really Right, and you like you were like figuring out life on your own and it was like so exciting, you were still young. I could go out all night long and go to class at eight. That was good. Yeah, that, yes. Yes, did I do some dumb shit? Yes, but it was fun. Okay, what about you? What about you? Um, I agree on the 40s.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking when I was like 25 because I was like super stressed in college. I didn't. I didn't have as much fun in college as like most people. That sucks. I just was like worried about getting everything done and I always worked and then I did theater stuff too, so I didn't enjoy college as much as like I probably should have Now. I made a lot of friends and I did have some good times, but I was like relieved, happy to be out of there.

Speaker 1:

When I was 25, I was actually a single mom to a baby, but I think that was like relieved, happy to be out of there. Oh okay, when I was 25, I was actually a single mom to a baby, oh right. But I think that was like one of my favorite like eras of my life, because right before I got pregnant with her, I had gotten like quote unquote at the time my dream job, like working at a big newspaper and I stayed there even after I had the baby, like took maternity leave and they gave me a flexible schedule and it was wonderful. But I just remember because of the schedule they had to give me, I would get up super early and do some stuff online Big shocker and when my daughter would wake up I would step away and I put her in the stroller.

Speaker 1:

We lived in Florida all year long. We go for walks. I mean, this went on when she could like start standing up and walking and I just remember, like those, that was like the map of our days and it was just us, you know, and it was a little lonely. But like I look back on those times and I'm like sorry, I was wondering if we were gonna cry at all this episode. Here it is. Um, no social media video for this one. Yeah, you can catch it on YouTube, guys. No, I'm not going to, cause we don't ever, we don't edit that. Um, but it was like for how complicated maybe it sounds on paper, like having a single mom and having to work. It was a very simple time and I just miss it. Oh, but anyway, didn't like college Do, like my forts Would recommend, okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

See, it's interesting like thinking about being a young mom, because when I was 25, I was also a young mom, but I was measurable, yes, and I was married, yeah, but I was alone. Yeah, because he was in a war zone. Yeah, but that's an added stressor. Like I feel like the fact that I was single helped me be happier. I was just about to ask you that because you could just focus on you too. Exactly. Yeah, there wasn't someone else I had to worry about and I'm not saying anything against partners or partner relationships but for me to just not have to put any energy there and I could just be like, yeah, I'm gonna worry about my work, I'm worried about my baby, and that's life, that's it. And you know I wasn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I decided we made the decision together that I would stay home with the kids because of his job. Yeah, um, and I didn't want to do that. Right, I mean, I, I did want to, but I didn't want to. Does that make sense? I was not looking forward to that. Like, there are a lot of women who love that, like that. You know, they wanted to be like their goal was being a mom, they want to be home and like that's fantastic. I have lots of friends like that and that's great. I just never saw that for myself but because of our circumstance, that's just what worked.

Speaker 1:

Um, it was the easiest option for us. Yeah, maybe not financially. Well, no, because daycare is so expensive. Yeah, I mean, financially, it probably was better, to be honest, I mean, and we just made that decision. And especially, you know he was gone a lot, especially when Caden was little. Um, he was still gone when Cooper was young, but not Caden was little. He was still gone when Cooper was young, but not nearly as much because he changed jobs. But you know, it makes me like seeing you being like I loved that time. It makes again here. I am Like, oh, I'm not going to, because I was miserable when my kids were little, but I think that's okay and we were in totally different circumstances. Oh, yeah, for sure, 100%, and yeah, it was just different.

Speaker 1:

And I think too it's interesting you said that about college because I can think of a lot of people who were like that, who did not have it, and I had a great time, like bad things happen, I didn't really let myself have fun, right, and so therefore, it was four years of like constant pressure on myself. Yeah, that was relieved when I wasn't there, because now I'm just working, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, and I think like also too, like I did join a sorority which people have lots of feelings about, but for me it was a very positive experience and I had great friends and like what I remember graduating I graduated a little later than everybody else. Everybody was gone already. Yeah, and not having like a community of people for me sucks Like it's really hard, like I, I, I think too that was another reason why I struggled so much when my kids were young, even though I did have eventually I had other moms in my circle, uh, but it took.

Speaker 1:

It took a while to be like fine to make. It takes a long time to make good friends where you can say I'm not okay, like right, I am not. Like you know, to be honest, even sometimes, even to a good friend, it's a hard thing to like if they say, hey, how are you today? To say it's hard to open up. Yeah, actually, I'm really bad, right, right, like I, actually I, I like haven't slept in three days and like I have these intrusive thoughts Like nobody wants to hear that when you've only been friends for a few. Well, I would tell me, cause I wouldn't mind either. But like, especially when you're 25 years old you know what I'm saying You're young, it's like lighten up, lady. Okay, so you loved that time. You love your forties? Yes, yeah, that's not that far apart, though Not really. I mean it's 15 years apart and I didn't hate the years in between but those are just like highlight times, your golden eras. Yeah, golden eras, we always have golden eras. I love that. But you know what? I think?

Speaker 1:

A lot of people, especially women, they're so negative about aging and it's society's fault, right? We have way too many dumbass expectations placed upon us that men do not. It makes me so mad that men can just age and be considered attractive until like 75 without ever being expected to lose weight, dye their hair, fuck with their face with chemicals, cover up anything. It makes me so mad, not at the men, but, yes, at the men, because they're the ones who created it to begin with. And if we women do that, you're considered this like anomaly, right? It's like, oh my gosh, good for you for letting your hair go gray or whatever. It's fucking crazy, which I've definitely said to women. I'm like, wow, it looks great. That was, that was really bold, or whatever. I wish I could. I did, I tried to go gray. That's just my example. But you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean or not having all the other things. Yeah, I don't mind aging, I mean all the normal things. I mean your body is getting older. Things are not going to be the way they were. You can't expect your body to do at 44 what it did at 24. Right, that's craziness, yeah, okay, that's just not. Your body is aging every second.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but I think the cool part about aging is you do get that wisdom and you do get, and I feel like the older I get, the more I learn. Yeah, and I change my mind about everything. Ask my husband yes, all right. Yeah, I think too, like, um, oh gosh, now I already lost what I was going to say. Oh well, when you were saying, yeah, I lost it. If it comes back, I'll let you know. It was just something about a good part of aging, but I don't remember what it was. Oh, I remember. Sorry, everyone. See, that's an example that will happen to you in your 40s or maybe younger.

Speaker 1:

I'm more grateful for my body. Yeah, because I have a lot of issues, some chronic issues, with my body at this age, and I have that wisdom, like you said, to, yes, sometimes be frustrated and be like oh, why do I feel like this and I'm doing all the things I'm supposed to do. Be frustrated and be like, oh, why do I feel like this and I'm doing all the things I'm supposed to do? Blah, blah, blah. But on the flip side, to also be like, hey, I've always taken this body for granted and look, I can move, I can walk, I can do all these things, I can sing, I can hear, I can see when things start to age or go a little sour. I think it does make you appreciate it, yeah, even where you are like, yeah, but yeah, there's this and this and this, right, and I think I wouldn't have really dialed into that as a younger person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel that, and I think too, like, going back to those questions on, like, if we could ask something I'm going to even say our younger years like just how I mistreated my body for so many years. I mean, uh, the toxic bullshit. I mean I smoked for so long, guys, I didn't take care of my voice the way I should have. Part of that wasn't my fault, but still, I like starved myself, I like took pills so my body would get rid of nutrients that it needed. Like all these awful things, I would stay up all night. You know, like these things, that you just don't realize that is all going to matter.

Speaker 1:

One day it does Like, it doesn't just go away, right, right, it's going to come back to haunt you, like, like you said, like the, certainly the food dysmorphia kind of stuff, food distortions is a big one, but like the tanning beds that I mentioned earlier, or or just, yeah, just being, just being unkind to my body, whether it's a physical thing or a mental thing, right, like talking to myself or not liking it, like just would love to again. We're wise now, so it's. We wouldn't, we wouldn't have been able to get this wisdom back then. That's the thing. What do they say Was, um, something is wasted on youth. Is it wisdom is wasted on youth or something like that, on youth? Is it wisdom is wasted on youth, or something like that? I don't think that's right. I don't think that is right. Something about youth is wasted on the young, but that has nothing to do with wisdom. I'll look it up later.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I'm having trouble finding my words. To be fair, I have not had. See, speaking of bad things we do to our body. I haven't had much to eat today, but I'm going to eat after this, so we'll be just fine. You haven't had anything to eat today. I had a little bit. Yeah, I had a little bit at home. Jeez, alright, was that your question or mine? I don't remember. Alright, well, I'll go again. Here we go. I don't remember who had what. I'm fading as lunchtime gets closer, I know, I know. Oh, another one from Cody. Okay, what are you specifically nostalgic for from the 80s and 90s? What are you specifically nostalgic for from the 80s and 90s? I got something let's hear Not having cell phones, okay, in our hands constantly.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that's a good one. I just recently have been like trying to pay more attention to phones, probably because I'm home with my kids a lot more than usual and they are on those goddamn phones all the time. Yeah, and I hate it. What I really hate and this is not just kids, this is grownups too is noticing even in groups of people, the phones are always in the hand. I'm just as guilty. I'm just going to put it out there.

Speaker 1:

And what I've noticed people doing is that when there is a lull in conversation or some dead time, like if you're waiting in line or you're at a stoplight, the first thing humans do nowadays take out that phone. Yeah, we didn't used to have that Right. You would just have to sit there and be alone with your thoughts. Or if you're in an awkward conversation or you have a lull, you feel the awkwardness, and then you figure out how to talk your way through it or get out of the situation. Right, well, question to that then can you I mean you can't societally make this happen, but for yourself, like, can you just not be on your phone? Well, I can, but I mean it. It the the thing that's weird that Troy and I were talking about, um. You know he works an indoor building, right, he has no windows where he's at, so he'll, I know so he'll, during the day he'll sporadically go outside. Now in his job he can't have his cell phone for security reasons, but he'll go outside just to get fresh air and he's like, I'll, right, yeah, or you know like, or people won't.

Speaker 1:

People don't know how to like socialize. It's like their social communicating skills are terrible, even in adults. Like we don't even know how to do stuff. Sometimes people don't even know how to call and make appointments or ask for stuff. Nobody wants to. I mean I don't.

Speaker 1:

I sometimes would much rather just call because it is done. That's true. I don't want to go through the fucking bullshit. I don't want to. I sometimes would much rather just call because then it's done. That's true. I do not want to go through the fucking bullshit. I don't want to make passwords on a website. Yeah, I get that too. I will just call and ask Susan to please make me an appointment on a Wednesday. Yeah, thank you, susan, I just like. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1:

And so, yes, I can put my phone down, but I, you know, I don't like that. Like, I'm tempted to, the next time we have a something at my house is to make everybody leave their phones at the front door. Yeah, but you can't do that when you have kids. So I don't know, like, if they're coming there and their kids are at home, right, and they might need to be, yeah, I guess it depends if they're. The default, like is there, is there a parent at home? I know it kind of depends on that. But that's what I meant, that's what I am very nostalgic for. And like, if you watch, if you watch movies or TV shows, from then, nobody, like at parties, everybody's just there, right, and I, I, I am nostalgic for that. What about you? That's a good one, um, I don't really know.

Speaker 1:

For some reason I just started thinking about which I can literally go out and still do, like riding my bike when I was a kid. I have a bike that I do ride, still Okay, but I get it because it's different. It's different when you're a kid. You don't even have a purpose, you just get on the bike and fucking go Exactly and not having like I might have like an end time, that my parents are like, hey, be home by this time. Yeah, but it's not like I don't have an agenda, I can just kind of go. I'm going to ride to the park.

Speaker 1:

Oh, maybe I'll ride to my friend's house, and I think I'm specifically nostalgic for this, because when I was just home in Indiana not that long ago, we were driving through a neighborhood to get to the house I grew up in, because we have family that live there now and I was like, oh, my friend Amanda used to live there, oh, and I used to go to that park and I would like ride my bike and, and we were in the neighborhood of that house, but we weren't like right by it. They're like but your house is kind of far from here, and I'm like, yeah, I guess it kind of is. It never felt that way, though, and then I would be like, and those woods? I would never ride through those woods because I was scared of those woods. And then like and I'm like, oh, this is my grandma's house. I used to walk to her house and they're like that is also not that close to your house. I would just like leave my house and we all did my grandma's. Yeah, just like walk on out.

Speaker 1:

No cell phone obviously. Yeah, I think occasionally like my mom would be like call me when you get there, or my grandma would would call my mom and be like, oh, hey, she's here. But like just that vibe where now, even if I go on a bike ride, it's like I have my phone, someone might call me. Or like I'm listening to something, or you have to be home in 20 minutes. It's like I can take a 20 minute bike ride, maybe 18 minute, and then I gotta be home.

Speaker 1:

So like that, which isn't necessarily an eighties, nineties thing, maybe a little, but it's just a childhood thing, I don't really know. But that that non-programmed time maybe, maybe that's what it is. So you miss non-programmed time, I miss non-distracted time, which are similar. They're similar and I think maybe that's why retired people sometimes seem like they're having their best life, because they got that right. They don't have like they have, that they can just go on a bike ride for 80 hundred hours. They got a job, their kids are grown, they just go. Yeah, I mean, you know and like, so maybe that's what's going to happen. We get back when we get to our retired life. We get that. We get back that nostalgia we were thinking of. I love that. It's like that movie cocoon, remember. Yeah, I mean, well, they got younger, but we won't be getting younger. We won't be getting younger. No, okay, I'm gonna read all right, go for it. All right, here we go. That was a good one. Now we're all nice and fuzzy, warming. This is funny, hannah.

Speaker 1:

Where do flies go at night? Now, granted, we probably could google this and find out. In fact, we should do that. You want me to? Yeah, let's google it live. Okay, this is a scientific answer. We can probably find out for you right now.

Speaker 1:

I just assume flies fly around at night. They don't. Is this a thing, people wondering where flies go at night? I mean, I just assume flies are just always. They're just awake all the time. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what does it say? At night, flies often seek shelter in dark, warm places indoors, such as behind curtains or in the corners of rooms. They may also seek out sheltered areas outdoors, like underneath decks, in shrubs or in piles of leaves. Well, there you go, hannah. Flies go night-night. So they do go night-night. And then the secondary question on here is do flies feel pain? Yes, they do. How do they know that? They asked them. I don't know. It just says invertebrates like flies experience a wide range of sensations and emotions. Okay, there's no way they know that. This is too much Goodbye. Okay, where did you? Was that AI? No, it's coalitionbrewingcom. What the hell? It's just what I Googled. Source check, it was the first one. Okay, well, interesting. Well, okay, that's exciting to know. Oh, but then it has a live science video in it which is reliable. Well, at least we know where they go now. Now we know the flies are still there. Everyone Flies go night-night. All right, here we go. Oh, I got two. No, I got one. Amanda, oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

What's your favorite show and role you've ever done? Oh, y'all know, amanda, she was our guest. She was our first guest. Yeah, she was our very first guest. I think those can be two different things, right, your favorite show and your favorite role. We get to make the rules Okay. So my favorite role was Meredith Parker in Bat Boy. Well, I think she meant the show you've been in. That's what she meant. Yeah, I was Meredith Parker in Bat Boy, oh, okay. So your role and your show that you've been in are different. They are Okay All I loved that role, okay, and it was an okay show. It was fine it was.

Speaker 1:

It was like one of those things that was tinged by COVID, so like the actual production process and everyone ended up having to video it, which means there is video of it that exists, which is kind of nice. You never told me that. Yeah, I have video of it. Oh, gotta watch it. I never seen that show.

Speaker 1:

I just and it was just so unlike me and it was not too far into me like returning to performing, so it was just like special. And then, like the girl who played my daughter was like kind of like someone I'd taken under my wing anyway, so it was kind of fun. I got to call her a slut and slap her across the face. It was fun. It was fun, hey, but probably my favorite show that I've ever done is probably Joseph, oh my. That I've ever done is probably Joseph. Oh, my God, amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, and I was a one of 12 wives in that one and I just I love that show and I did it in high school too and I loved it then too. Oh, I knew that, yeah, so like it's just a favorite show of mine to be in for sure it.

Speaker 1:

You know what I? I was going to say Joseph was my favorite show too, because that was my big return to a musical theater stage and a really long time, and now I'm going to cry Look at that. Who knew? And it was the first time Cooper and I got to do something together. So it was like it was crazy, because it was like the return to my passion and the beginning of his, and it lined up right at that exact moment.

Speaker 1:

That's such a great observation, and so I can and I will always remember my eye hurts. Damn this question, damn you, amanda, I didn't tell anybody on this episode. So I have a sty in my eye that is forming. Everyone's like where did this? I know they're gonna be like what dawson's we talked? We talked about it on our Dawson's episode. So, sorry, I have a stye in my eye that is forming and it's like itchy and burning. So now those tears did not help the stye and I can't touch my eye to wipe it. So anyways, okay, good, that made me get my shit together.

Speaker 1:

I can remember standing there in the wings because the kids opened the show on our invited dress and I could see him from where I was coming in. I could see him and I'm like and I kept thinking, oh my God, I'm here, I'm here, I'm doing it, and he's here, and it was just. I will never forget that. And Katie was there, I was also there. Fun fact, that's where Katie and I became friends. Yeah, and my kids were also there and that was really special. Two of your kids, two of them. Yeah, and it was such like a I don't know.

Speaker 1:

There was nothing bad I could say about that show. The cast was fantastic. Okay, the choreography was really fucking hard. Yeah, we didn't even do the hard stuff. No, no, it was really hard. But I think, yeah, but I think we challenged our. Well, they challenged us and we rose to the challenge and had fun with it and had fun with our kids there and and it's just a super fun show, literally, and it was a really special cast. You know, it was Just everything about it was top notch.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I was so sad when that show was done. Me too I was so sad. It was just such a fun time and I mean, honestly, I've enjoyed every show I've done since. But that one just has a little, and like Christmas Story was emotional, for the same kind of reasons, yeah, but it was more stressful. Yeah, for me personally. Not the cast was wonderful and all the things, um, but for me personally there was more pressure on me. I'd say there's a lot of responsibility that you had to take on for that one. And cooper too, like he had a hard time. He was anyway, whatever. Um, but my favorite role is actually one of my least favorite shows. That not that I was in, but just I don't think it's a very entertaining show was when I was a senior in high school.

Speaker 1:

We only did my high school. I did musicals once a year and it was only for the senior class, okay, okay, so the big like our our choir teacher, slash drama teacher, was the one who picked it and of course she picked shows that, like her, people would be strong in Mm-hmm. Well, we wanted to do Grease, so bad. Okay, the school board would not let anybody do Grease Because, as you know, yeah, the stage show is, you know, whatever but so she picked the Will Rogers Follies. Oh my God, have you ever seen this show? No, but I remember you talking about this before. I had to look it up. It's about the life of Will Rogers, which actually he had a very interesting life and the dancing in the show is phenomenal. If you look up a Broadway production of it, like it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1:

But the reason I liked that role is because I was a supporting role. But I got to start the show Ooh, okay and I would love. I just got to be sassy and show up and look cute and. But I got to start the show with a solo and I got to come down these big giant stairs. I don't have a video of it, something happened to it in Hurricane Katrina. So that was probably my favorite role. That's so great Because it was a support. It was like it's like one of those roles where, like it's a supporting role, but you get your moments, yes, but you don't have as much stress as everybody else. Exactly, you get to show up, sing and dance, look cute, done. I love roles like that, yes, where you're like a little more than the background, but you're not carrying the show. Yes, those are really really fun. Yeah, it was fun, and I and one of my favorite things I got to do was sometimes that scene changes One of my jobs because I was called Ziegfeld's favorite, because I was just a showgirl.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's it. I got to prance across the stage with these big signs saying like Will at 13 or like at boxing matches. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. That was like the funnest. And I had this big giant. They made this big giant rocket. I don't remember why the fuck this was in there, but I was like what it was, this big giant rocket. I think it was like a dream sequence or something. And I got to come in in the rocket, like, and they like push it out, and it was just. That is so fun, so fun. And one night it got stuck on stage. The rocket, the hot, the pulley got messed up and there's like this whole serious scene and I'm just sitting here in a rocket. Oh my gosh, that's so great. I do have a picture of me in the rocket. I'll find it, I'll show you too. Anyway, oh my gosh, that's really funny. Oh, my thigh hurts I want to wipe it, wipe my eye, okay, sorry.

Speaker 1:

So let's see where we're at. We've got oh, we still got a lot left, so maybe one more. Let's do one more now and then we'll we'll keep all these and decide what we want to do with the rest. Okay, if we want to do little snippets for social, answering each one, maybe we could do that, or we'll figure it out. Okay, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1:

Last one from hannah. Okay, we've kind of already talked about this, but this is a good one to end on. How have you come to accept getting older? I think we already talked about that. Yeah, let's do another one. All right, we got to that one before you asked it. We love you, hannah, but we already, we were ahead of it Before we got. Yeah, we got ahead of you, Okay. Um, how?

Speaker 1:

What do you think zennials post on social media? Well, we know, don't we? Hannah's not a zennial, by the way, she's one of our young, young friends. I would be interested to think, see what her answer. I know, I think what we post on social media are a couple things we love us, a meme I love, um, I don't, I think. Also, people we post on a lot of very strong views on things that nobody reads. Yes, um, definitely. Pictures of our kids. Yeah, selfies with our kids, horribly taken selfies. Look, I do a bathroom selfie, danny does not. So that's the. That's the only one with katie, yeah, yeah, we'll have to do that again soon. Oh, great, that's always fun. Um, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1:

My daughter, tegan, loves our tiktok video where we talk about what we do for episodes and then at the end we go into the bathroom, into separate bathrooms. She will just watch it and she'll be like here it comes, synchronized potty break. She thinks it's so funny and I'm like okay, we came up. See, guys, when we come up with our really good funny reels, well, that we think are funny and Tegan thinks they're funny, we come up with them spur of the moment. We do like that one from podfest where I'm writing in the notebook and you're on your phone, like we came. We came up with it right then when we planned them. They're not so horrible, they're not so good. Y'all probably haven't seen a lot of them, because one time I know what you're gonna say yeah, you tried, we're gonna. I don't even remember what our goal was, but it was something with katie and the props in her studio and we filmed. We kept filming different stuff for like 20 minutes and it was. It was bad it was. I was like popping out from behind a coffin, like it was. It was, it was bad. We'll have to find those outtakes because we tried too hard to play it too hard. Yeah, it was like it was. It was.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what else does any else post on social media? I feel like a lot of, like you said, memes, but even more than that, like I post like more inspirational quotes. Oh, the inspirational quote, yes, in fact, my other daughter, yeah, I was on story, on my stories the other day and she's like and she wasn't being mean, she was like, oh, are you posting your um motivational quotes for the day? You're like jack, and I was like. I was like, yes, I am, I need just like two or three more. This isn't enough of them for everyone to feel good, not the only one, a lot of people, that's what I mean. So it is, it is definitely. Yeah, geez, yeah, it's school fundraisers. We post school fundraisers um, play, but playbill picks playbill oh my gosh, everyone does that. But that's true. Definitely, we definitely do that, what else I don't know. I'm sure there's lots of.

Speaker 1:

I don't feel like I really post food that much, except caesar salad, because people want me to. I don't post food. I know some people post food, but our age I don't think so. We're not like we're not the influencer generation. So like, if it was people younger than us then I'd be like oh, they have the food porn pics. Yeah, like you know where it's, like what they're eating, and like I was at.

Speaker 1:

I met up with my best friend and her family when they were vacationing here. Cooper and I met them for the day in universal. Okay, her teenage daughter man Instagram pics. Everything the whole family gets in and like helps pose the Instagram. They have a family of daughters, so like it's a very different life than mine and they were like they got a Shrek pretzel and they're like hold on, we need a picture with the thing on it and stand here by the donkey and like get your butterbeer and go over here and I'm like that's the younger generation. Everything is about the Instagram. Yeah, yeah, that's really funny. I thought of another one. Oh, we, we do like a big photo dump after a vacation. Oh yeah, like like the 30 photo from the cruise or Indiana, or oh yeah, oh and terrible fireworks. This is a perfect week for that.

Speaker 1:

I saw a meme last year that was like, in case anyone needs to hear this no one wants to see the photo, your crappy photos of fireworks, because literally everyone. And why are we videoing it? Let me ask you a question If you are a person that videos fireworks shows, do you ever go back and watch it? Do you ever just be like man, I could really use some fireworks right now? I don't know. I mean I haven't videotaped. Videotaped, oh my God. I haven't recorded whole fireworks shows Stop. But I'll record a firework here and there, and they're not good videos. Why are you? Do you just be sitting in your day and it's like lunchtime? You're like I think they're going to look at that. Really, no, I mean, I literally never watched them again, ever.

Speaker 1:

So then what is it for? I feel like it's usually part of a series of images or videos, like of the day. So, for example, it's for other people or for my own memories. Nobody cares, and I even. I don't, not about a firework, but if it's for your own memories and you never look at them again, what's the point. I mean, I look when facebook reminds me I don't go back. I'm just curious. No, I'm with you. I mean and that can be said of a lot of things that we take pictures and videos of true, and I've probably done it too, but I'm just curious too, you know, like, yeah, it's always, it always makes me laugh at theme parks because people will film the entire firework show and I'm like, bro, you know, you can.

Speaker 1:

First of all, if you really want to see the whole thing, you can look it up online and they're pretty good videos some of them. But also, are you ever and great? Now, if you, maybe they're taking it back to their family or something, and that's fine. That's what I want to know. Yeah, that's your question. I was like literally asking that I'm not just trying to be an asshole, I'm serious. Oh well, like what? Do you literally go back and be like man, I got to? And if you're showing your family, do they care about the fireworks?

Speaker 1:

The only thing I could think is if you're like showing, like a grandparent or something when you get home and like the kids want to show them, I don't know, aren't that fun if you're not there? Yeah, that's true, I will say, like my in-laws did this like falconry thing, where they went somewhere and they got video of it of birds, uh-huh, and it was like that, the birds like flying to their arm and stuff and okay, so they eat fireworks. I know this is an example of something you should video to bring home and show your family, I see, because as a family we just kept watching and we're like this is so cool, right, and, like you know, I was like grandma, where are you scared? Oh, because they like layered on you and, yeah, they just like as they get closer they're like huge. I wouldn't do it, I'm too scared of birds, but that being an example of one, but they did not take videos of fireworks to show us. No, so falconry, yes, fireworks, maybe not, maybe not, unless it's like over the grand Canyon or something.

Speaker 1:

Or if you're in New York city, do you like fireworks? I like fireworks. I am not. I have to be. I like them if I'm very far away from them.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I don't like to be up close for multiple reasons. One, my mom terrified me because she was an ER nurse, right. Two, biggest things she scared me off of for life because that was the most ER visits was fireworks and motorcycles. Yeah, sure, also, kayden got really badly burned by one and we weren't even doing them. Also, caden got really badly burned by one and we weren't even doing them. It was a firework gone wrong that one of our fucking neighbors years ago. It was a Roman candle and we were far away. Like, we were far away. She lived in a cul-de-sac. He was like by our front door, dang, and it went that rogue. Yeah, that's scary. And it got it and thank God it wasn't like Well, and they're cheaply made, yeah, and there's no way to know if it's gonna go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I hate until you light it. If I am far away, great, but like, if you're doing fireworks at your house, I am not coming. It's fair, it's totally fair. I am not coming. 100. Okay, it's time. We have a few questions left. So if we didn't get to yours, we'll worry, we're gonna keep them, we'll make, make sure we get to them soon. And thank you guys for that and thanks for listening. Make sure you leave us a review wherever you listen. Tune into Dawson's Creek, it's fun, I promise, and we'll see you next time. See you next time, bye.

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