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Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial Soundtrack Magic: 80s and 90s Movies with Chris Utley
Does a certain music chord remind you of your childhood, seated in a dark movie theatre with popcorn and Milk Duds? Do certain songs still remind you of THAT scene in one of your favorite childhood movies?
If your CD collection is full of soundtracks from the 80s and 90s, you might be a Xennial. Join us and special Gen X guest Chris Utley and we chat about some of the biggest movie soundtracks from the final two decades of the 20th century.
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Hello everyone, Welcome to Generation In Between, a Zennial podcast where we revisit, remember and sometimes relearn all kinds of things from our 80s childhoods and 90s teen young adulthoods. I am superfan Chris Utley, yes, Woo-hoo.
Speaker 2:Happy New Year y'all.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is round two of us trying to record with Chris, because we have a problem with our life.
Speaker 1:So today we're going to chat all about some movie soundtrack history, but before we do that, we're going to give you all a little bio about Chris. So Chris Utley has his hands in many buckets Anti-racism advocacy, co-parenting, his three kids and a 27-year IT career. But his first love has always been movies. He is a walking talking encyclopedia of movie knowledge and currently serves as a film analyst at Screenfish. And currently serves as a film analyst at Screenfish, an organizer of the meetup group DFW Movie Nerds out of Dallas, Texas. Holla for Texas, let's go.
Speaker 1:Welcome, chris, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Happy to be here, you guys.
Speaker 1:So glad. So I actually have never met Chris in person and we have never even talked to each other, have we?
Speaker 2:Voice to voice. No, but we've been liking and commenting and dming on several things from that over the last few years because you were swimming in one of my pools yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yes, chris and I used to both volunteer. Um, actually, are you still doing admin moderator work for Be the Bridge?
Speaker 2:Not anymore.
Speaker 1:Okay, we both were some volunteer moderators for Be the Bridge racial reconciliation group. That's how we met and he is a lot of fun. He knows he really does know a lot of stuff on movies, so I can't wait to hear all about this. But before we get into all this outline and history that you put together for us, we got some questions for you, okay all righty ready. First one, first one, the one I always have to know chris, are you a zennial born between the years of 1977 to 1983.
Speaker 2:No, I am Gen X to the ball.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, fair, we'll take it. Gen X is just fine. We're kind of Gen X and we're kind of millennial, hence we're in between, exactly, we're so proud of ourselves. All right, you want to ask the next one? Yeah, I do. So. We got to know, and this is probably going to be a very deep answer. You don't have to go deep if you don't want to, but what is it about movies and music and soundtracks, in particular about with movies, that makes you a super fan? What is it that keeps you going back?
Speaker 2:I mean, when you're talking about movies, you're talking about sitting in the theater, walking in the lobby, popcorn smell, ticket getting torn and you're going into the room. And I'm from los angeles, california, so our movie theaters are 20 times the size of your average multiplex. So I've seen movies on imax screens that are like seven stories tall. I've seen movies on in on screens that are 82 feet wide and it's just larger than life and the sound is pumping because it's all the studio people in LA, it's helping the engineer, the theaters and so everything is just high level. Some stuff in Texas can't compete with that.
Speaker 2:I like going to IMAX and dolby cinema out here, but it's just that whole vibe of the movie experience and you really don't have that experience without that iconic music. When you start talking about movie studio logos, when you start talking about your pop hits and your r&b and hip-hop hits that come from movies, when you talk about your theme songs, you know just the instrumentals, you know I mean the iconic stuff and you, you know, think about. You think about bt thing when they're flying, you think about star wars. It's like if I start playing the end credits of star wars on my um ipod I get goose pimples because I can literally see in my mind's eye um all the kids and their parents walking out of theater, like we were back in the 70s and 80s and we saw Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. So it's the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I love that and you know what I think. That's why I love movies so much too, and I love going to the movies. Okay, so I saw Academy Award season just happened. Chris did the coolest thing. I'm so jealous. He went to the movies and they played all the pictures that were nominated for Best Picture and it was like a marathon. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2:Well, they did 9 out of 10. Because I went to, because AMC does a Best Picture showcase every year and so they show the stuff that's released in theaters. If it's just on streaming, they won't show it. I saw nine out of ten. That's amazing. It was a two-week kind of event. They did five one week and then four the next. It's a whole Lollapalooza community of just hardcore film people just sitting there glued in. It was just movie after movie after movie. It was so much fun there's nothing like it, like you know.
Speaker 1:You know that stupid promo that nicole kidman does.
Speaker 1:She's all by herself somehow fire breaks, feels good in a place like this yeah, but like it's so valid, like that's so true, like you are, just it's. It reminds me too. You remember that song from the prom where he talks about loving musicals and like how being in the audience is like such, like this pivotal thing. That is why movies and and and also I'm so glad that you're doing soundtracks, because, like, what is a good movie without an iconic soundtrack, especially the movies in the 80s and 90s? Hello karate, hello karate, hello Footloose, purple Rain, which Chris is wearing on his shirt, damn so representing, yes, us. Yeah, I mean, let's go.
Speaker 1:Okay, should we ask this top three one or should we wait? Let's wait. You want to wait? Okay, let's wait. We have one more question. We'll ask at the end yeah, you want to wait. Okay, let's wait. We have one more question. We'll ask at the end. Yeah, we'll ask at the very end. Yeah, okay, awesome, great, all right. So what do you got for us? We're ready for all your research and timeline and all the fun facts you want to give us.
Speaker 2:Well, we're just going to dance around. I'm going all the way back to the audiences. That was the first time they got to hear someone speak. Al Jolson and the songs that he sang and that ended up becoming pop hits and that's what happened for a lot of movies in the 30s and up to the 1960s and whatnot. And in fact if you go watch old Lo oh, looney tunes, stuff like all the stuff that they were singing were the hits of the day, like they were like cold from, like broadway musicals and stuff like that. So anything that you would hear buzz bunny randomly singing, chances are that was like the hit song in that moment prior to billboard, you know what that makes me think of.
Speaker 1:Remember the looney tunes with the frog and he would sing hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my ragtime gal.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a hit the other way. He did that. That love and rag, all of that. You know that was part of the culture in the moment, you know. So you got that. And then you get the 1960s and the Beatles, the Hard Day's Night and Help, which are walking talking soundtrack promos for their albums, including their music. You've got. You know Simon and Garfunkel putting fire on everybody with the Graduate and the iconic songs that come from there, mrs Robinson, sounds of Silence. You got Dionne work warwick.
Speaker 2:You know who was by the time, um, the mid-60s came around. She's a major superstar and she has the big song from the movie alfie. You know what? What's it all about alfie? And you know they were and you started seeing in the late 1960s them weaving into that. But then a big old explosion happened in the 1970s. You start seeing John popping up on things before he was blowing up. You see Mick Jagger starring in movies and this, that and the other. But the soundtrack really really came of age through what's called black exploitation movies, the movies that were happening when I was born. Actually, the biggest one of all, the one that started everything musically and is my favorite song, is Theme from Shaft by Isaac Hayes. Yeah, yep, that won the Oscar that year for best original song Isaac.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I zoned out and we'll go on youtube and we'll watch that um video of isaac hayes acceptance speech with his bald hair in the whole nine and so and so pretty much what they did in r&b culture at least is they pretty much package your star and they got the r&b artists of the day to do that soundtrack. So so you got Billy Preston doing the soundtrack from a movie called Slaughter. You got Bobby Womack doing Across the 110th Street, you've got the iconic Curtis Mayfield doing the Superfly album soundtrack album, and Superfly is like one of the greatest soundtracks ever. You know, from 1972.
Speaker 2:So 73, 74, they're just rolling along, rolling along. And then somehow in the mid-1970s you start seeing the big explosion in which that just came, a whole pop culture icon. You know, movie associated with song. You know, you got examples. Like we talked about Star Wars, the actual theme. You know the examples. Like we talked about star wars, the actual theme. You know the instrumental became a pop hit. John williams becomes a household name because of that theme and then he does music for close encounter, the third kind now that's it yep.
Speaker 2:And then, prior to that, around christmas 76, you have Sylvester Stallone, you know, doing Rocky and Gonna Fly Now, which was like top 10 level, you know. And so everybody, to this day, every time I hear those sorts of dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun See, I'm back at the movies. I hear that as, like I think of one of the movies as a kid in the 70s and so, but the explode movies as a kid in the 70s and so, but the explode. And then, before I go into that, um, of course you got the 007 movies. Let's go back to the 60s and the 70s. You got shirley's bassies, awesome theme song for goldfinger. You got tom jones doing, um, thunderball. You got, uh, nancy sinatra doing you only live twice. And then the cool one, paul mccartney, or wings doing living let die, which is, you know, that's right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:and so all these I forgot about. I'm not a james bond person. Yeah, I forgot all those iconic songs like we're in james bond movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and then carly simon has a big hit with nobody Does it Better, from the Spy who Loved Me from 1977. And then also in 1977 was the soundtrack that blew the doors off the world Saturday Night Fever.
Speaker 1:I was waiting for that. I was waiting for that one. I was like when is?
Speaker 2:it coming in.
Speaker 1:So, that was the first Zenny movie that was 1977.
Speaker 2:Okay so, yep, the opening iconic scene with Travolta strutting down the street to stayami. That was 1977. Okay so, yep, the opening iconic scene which involves her strutting down the street to stay alive. Oh, it's so cute, so cute. And everything that Bee Gees curated with that particular soundtrack album. It's like you think of all those songs from that. You think about that, you think about Night Fever, you think about you Should Be Dancing. You think about More Than a Woman. Were those?
Speaker 1:all on Saturday Night Fever. Those were all on, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, you think about Yvonne Elman if I can't have you baby. Exactly, yeah, all of that is like Saturday Night Fever, and that album became one of the biggest selling albums of all time. Real yeah, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it sold at least like 15 million copies in America alone.
Speaker 1:That's great and I feel like when I was a teen in the 90s, those songs resurgent. Yeah, they did. I remember buying the soundtrack, the soundtrack, or like there was like a pure disco. Do you remember that I have it. I still have it. Yeah, that had all those songs on there and it was like even I was like this music's great, I know you know like, yeah, yeah, it's iconic and timeless.
Speaker 2:I have that on my phone, that album on my phone, and yeah, good, it's such, such, such good music, you know. And so, like I said, after that explosion happens, then then you start seeing Donna Summer popping up on her. She has a song called On the Radio from a Jodie Foster movie called Foxes.
Speaker 1:Radio Yep.
Speaker 2:You see that happening In 1980, you have the soundtrack for the movie Fame and then the big scene is where they all run out of the school and start dancing in the middle of the street and then the theme song's going I'm a man, exactly, exactly. Remember my name? Remember, remember, yep, and if I'm not mistaken, that song won the best song Oscar that year. I'll go back and fact check that. Yeah, that blew up and that album started showing up in people's collections and all of that now to be out. Done volta. I mean, after saturday night fever, he does grease and you gotta check you valley, doing grease is the word every, every Xennial out there knows Grease, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1:Every Xennial, every Gen Xer, everybody knows Grease. Fame did win Best Original Song in 1981.
Speaker 2:Awesome songs. So you got that and, like I said, zooming back, because Grease was 1978. So you not only have Frankie Valli doing Grease, but it's Olivia and John. You know you're the one that I want what was written for the movie? It wasn't in the Broadway shelf.
Speaker 1:It was in the musical because we did the musical in high school and there's a totally different song for that scene, because I remember just being so disappointed that it wasn't in there, but it was written for the movie. Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a good one. Can you imagine the movie without that song?
Speaker 2:no, no yeah, it's so iconic I mean just like so much stuff was like her singing hopelessly devoted to you that wasn't in the music, lightning and yeah yeah, hopelessly devoted to you, wasn't in the musical. I think they did that for Olivia Newton-John because she was like queen pop star in that era.
Speaker 1:I think newer versions now do have that song. But when I was in high school and we did it because, guys, I was Sandra Dee, I didn't get to sing it, I didn't get to sing it. And I get to sing it and I was like, where's the song? They're like, oh, it's not in the musical. Like when you're like 17, you're like, well, I'm just gonna sing it anyway. Right, they're like that's not how licensing shows goes, which I now very much understand. Be like, I'm the star, I take it back, I will not do this role. I don't get to sing, you're the one that I want. Or hopelessly devoted. Just kidding, it's fine.
Speaker 2:Yep. But yes they wrote a bunch of copies. And then Travolta chills in 79 because he's counting the Saturday night fever and the grease money. And then he shows up in urban cowboy and all of a sudden all the curbing thing he stood popping off, everybody's riding the bull. And then there's the big song from that Looking for love in all the wrong places. Yeah, yep, it was Eddie Murphy, famously back on doing that Saturday Night Live when he did his Buckwheat, you know, looking for love for all the bomb past it.
Speaker 1:Looking for love. He's Buckwheat from Little Rascal singing like greatest hits, like it's, like a he's like he's singing all the pop hits.
Speaker 2:It's so hilarious. It's like he's singing Betty Davis eyes. He's singing three times a lady by the Commodores, but he does it in Buckwheat style. If I spoil it, it it's like yeah, watch it after the podcast I'm gonna watch it later it's so good.
Speaker 1:I've never seen that so hilarious.
Speaker 2:It's classic so you got that going on and then around about um 1982 or so you start digging into um again. The soundtrack is just pretty much taking flight because fun fact about et michael jackson was supposed to do the soundtrack. What go look up? A song called somewhere in the dark. Somewhere in the dark was written for et but the rights couldn't get cleared between universal's parent company, mca, because they had a record label, and then michael jackson's um label epic, and so that didn't get included in the movie. Because if you go back and look at the ET storybook it's Michael Jackson undercover posing with ET reading the whole story.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, oh my God, that would be amazing. I can't. It reminds me of when we were talking about Labyrinth and how they said that other people they thought of casting was Prince, and I'm like like, oh my god, prince, as the god would not have been a pg.
Speaker 2:We'll get to that later.
Speaker 1:We'll get to that later, later, later on, later on, but oh my god. Okay, michael jackson, that is. That is probably my funnest trivia we've had to date.
Speaker 2:Honestly, that's so great and I'm sad that didn't yeah, look up et storybook in Somewhere in the Dark and the night that Michael won all those Grammys. The last one he won was for the ET songbook, Not Thriller.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see it. Oh my God, I'll put a clip of this on our socials. Look at him with ET. That is so 80s. I can't even stand it. I can't even stand it. I can't stand it, my lord.
Speaker 2:If they had included that in the movie, as big as it was, it would have elevated even crazier.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm telling you ET's like 10 feet tall. Well, no, he's just probably on a platform, because that's his leg right there, that's his hip right here. Don't worry about it. No, it's not, never mind, we'll, don't worry about it okay, no, it's not.
Speaker 2:No, I'm never mind. Never mind, we'll worry about et picture later. Yeah, and so also in 82 you get um the classic stuff from fast times at ridgemont high go-go's. We got the beat. Um, you've got. I don't know the name of the artist with that song. She's gotta be somebody's baby. Yeah, jennifer Jason.
Speaker 1:Lee and yeah, yeah, yeah, so I haven't thought about that movie in a long time. But man, yeah, that did have some good songs on that soundtrack.
Speaker 2:It did really, really good stuff. And then there was a wannabe version of that that came in 83. I kid you not. The title was called the last american virgin. I remember that movie. You didn't remember that. I saw that. So if you know that song, um, there's, that, there's. I know what boys like is in that movie. Uh-huh, that's in there. The song oh no by the commodores is one of the love scenes. And then the breakup song is um, just once, by james ingram and quincy jones.
Speaker 1:Just once, yep somebody's baby is jackson brown okay gotta be somebody's baby, jackson brown okay yep.
Speaker 2:So that's fast times, richmont High, and, like I said, a few ticks later comes Last American Virgin and that's got pop songs in it. The other big song from 82 that comes from a movie is Rocky 3. And the reason why the group of promo campaign song and movie because they sold rocky 2 as a movie every commercial had it's the I am the tigers, the thrill of the fight yeah, that was my fight song in high school because we were the tigers.
Speaker 1:I thought you meant like your personal. I mean mean sure no. Which, given some of the stories you're like turn on my song. Man, gotta go Pull some hair, pull some earrings.
Speaker 2:And so we're sitting in a drive-in and you know the old school way that you watch movies at drive-ins they had to hang a speaker on the window, so you're sitting and listening to this little tinny thing turned up. You just hear Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. You know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's like one of the most perfect hype songs. Seriously Legit, yeah, but. I'll tell you what you don't ever want to go to a stupid LSU game because you will hear that song 800 times and they are aggravating.
Speaker 2:I bet they do, and he's been warned. Yep. And so 83 rolls along, and the best song winner at the Oscar that year was the immortal Irene Cara's Flashdance. What a Feeling.
Speaker 1:That was not good, but that's what it sounds like. That's good. Who sang that?
Speaker 2:and so, and so that's I just. I read her oh, oh sorry if she also sang lee, she also was in fame and saying the theme from fame.
Speaker 1:Well, that's right yeah okay, because I always think that that song is from fame. But no, that's her big dance moment. Yeah, I always think that's something is from Fame. No, that's her big dance moment. Yeah, I always think that's from Fame.
Speaker 2:I get the two mixed up Anyway go on Irene Cara just saying the thing, but she wasn't acted in the Flashdance movie, you know. So you got that, you got you know. Michael Cinebolo she's a maniac, Also from that movie and the iconic scene with her and the leg warmers.
Speaker 1:That always makes me think of Tommy Boy too. That's what I was just about to say, chris Farley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought of the same thing.
Speaker 2:So you got that going on. And something that Slides under the radar In Flashdance Is you get one of the first major studio depictions of hip-hop culture. Oh, because in the middle of that movie, um, they're walking through that's where are they? Philadelphia, pittsburgh, I forget whatever they were, but they're on the east coast. And so when they're doing their, it's like right after like the gym sequence, when they're working out to I love rock and roll by jones at the blackhearts, um, they walk by and they see these dudes break dancing to the iconic break dance track from jimmy castor. It's just begun, it's like five minutes, so the guys spinning on the cardboards and this, that and the other play Like, oh okay, that was decent. So moving on, moving on. I had to bounce back to 1980, just real quick, as we gave the emergence of the patron saint of the 80s theme song, mr Kenny Loggins. Yep, so the legend of the patron saint of theme songs comes from the 1980 movie Caddyshack and the iconic I'm all right, nobody worry about me, yep.
Speaker 1:Oh, Caddyshack.
Speaker 2:Yep, and everybody knows. As soon as you hear that song, everybody's brain just immediately starts thinking Lil Murray hunting a gopher.
Speaker 1:That is so right. Yeah, kenny Loggins, he's the best with movie soundtracks.
Speaker 2:So he parlayed that into the great banner year of 1984, which I have as the great soundtrack explosion, because round about springtime 84, he sings a theme song, a little ditty we like to call Footloose.
Speaker 1:Now I gotta cut loose Footloose, kick off your Sunday shoes, oh my god.
Speaker 2:So that album had hits. That whole movie was just packed to the bone with hits.
Speaker 1:You've got that. What's your favorite song on that soundtrack?
Speaker 2:My favorite song on that soundtrack. My favorite song on that soundtrack is I'm Free. I love I'm Free hey, evan Halstead trying to sing. Y'all gotta lip sync my singing.
Speaker 1:Find a better dubber we're all about real time here it's all good let's hear it for the boys, because I sang that at um karaoke not too long ago and it was my husband's birthday. So I said let's hear it for the troy. You did not. Let's hear. That's so great.
Speaker 2:I bet he was not at all embarrassed or like oh, he hated, singled out, he was like, and they were like, yeah, everybody give it up for Troy yeah.
Speaker 1:Troy is right there, that's him Go say hi, troy Happy birthday. But that soundtrack is.
Speaker 2:You got Shalimar dancing in the streets. Dancing in the streets, rather, you got Sammy Hagar Girl that's Around. You've got all you ladies' favorite theme song from that.
Speaker 1:I need a hero.
Speaker 2:Yes, they're in a tractor scene where they're, like tractor, jogging each other.
Speaker 1:They're playing chicken.
Speaker 2:And then the immortal love ballad Almost Paradise, which is a bop for sure. 52-year-old man singing bop.
Speaker 1:That's a good one. We're knocking on the door. Almost Paradise.
Speaker 2:How could we ask for more?
Speaker 1:I swear that I could see forever in your eyes.
Speaker 2:I love it. I'm definitely coming to Florida to see you. Jenny, I'm definitely coming to Florida to break bread with you. You're going to see movie soundtracks all weekend, all weekend, good times.
Speaker 1:We have a performing arts studio, so we can just karaoke it out Awesome. Why not?
Speaker 2:That's what's up. We're going to make that happen. Footloose puts out Bangers and then, a couple of months later, hip Hop makes its big national motion picture explosion in the one-two punch that was breaking, followed by beat street that was released a couple months later. Now breaking is the west coast side of things. Beat street is the authentic east coast side of things and where it's all encompassing hip-hop, because Because hip-hop is not just rap music, it's a whole tenet of things.
Speaker 2:There is the original tenets of hip-hop. Are you start out the DJ, and then the rapper was called the master of ceremonies and it was his job to bust rhymes to show how the DJ was fresh, which is why they call rappers MCs. So you've got that. You've got the. So you've got that. You've got the graffiti stuff, and then you got the break dancing. Those are the pillars of that, and so b street is all about yeah, so b street is just all about a crew in new york city trying to fly, trying to make their way. Um, radon chong ends up finding this, this kid who's like an expert break dancer, but his big brother, who's a dj, is like trying to block him out of that, and so stuff happens out of that and have you seen this?
Speaker 1:I've seen okay. So what do you like better? Do you like break in or b street?
Speaker 2:I was, I was getting to that, I was getting to that. Yeah, beat Street is the more authentic portrait of hip-hop culture. It's got the icons in there. You've got Grandmaster, flash and the Fury of the Five are featured. Doug E Fresh, cool, moe D it's like all of them before they became superstars.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, watch the scene in Beat Street where it's the christmas rap and you'll see. You know, cool, moody and doggie fresh, you know, in that particular one and it's like a whole christmas thing and it's hilarious, hilarious. Yeah, it's a fresh rap, but it's a hilarious um stuff that they're saying because they're bagging on each other back 80s term. They've been roasting dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people and dozens of people. Them up with this kid from the streets of LA Boogaloo Shrimp called Turbo, and there was the young lady named Kelly who came in to colonize and learn the whole hip-hop culture because she thought that it was fresh.
Speaker 2:But Breaking made the most money and it was the most fun of the two because it was this battle dance pretty much all the way through it. And so we, all the way through it, and so we all went to see it as 12 year old kids. The movie made an old crap load of money, um, and the big kick that came out of that. Well, there's a few hits out of that. You got rufus and chaka cons. Ain't nobody that came for that movie, you know ain't nobody yep, that came from to you.
Speaker 2:Yep, that came from there. The rapper Ice-T did his first appearance in there Because he's like rapping over the breakdance battles at the club. And then the big one was a theme song from a group called Ollie and Jerry Ain't no stopping us, you know. There's no stopping us, you know. And so they put that scene Like they put that song at the very beginning, and then the final thing which they got to show these stuffy people that they're worthy of being in their dance show or whatever, and they win. And it made so much money that it spawned the immortal 1984 sequel Break Into Electric Boogaloo.
Speaker 1:Oh, Break Into.
Speaker 2:I always forget about that one yeah, so it was the three of them and they're in the hood and um, I guess ozone and turbo and parlay their 15 minutes of fame into this community center. But then these rich people want to tear it down and so yeah, and so it's dance, battles and trying to save this building, and so, you know, the movie didn't make as much as breaking, but it's dance, battles and trying to save this building, and so, you know, the movie didn't make as much as breaking, but it's still iconic just because you know that was like one of the first times you saw hip-hop get a sequel.
Speaker 1:So that's a big deal. I mean, yeah, I I feel like that was probably first time that, like white, white mainstream culture was able to Right right, but then what do? We do with that. We take it and ruin it. White people.
Speaker 2:That's what we do. Well, y'all didn't ruin it all the way. Hip-hop is still authentic. Rap music is still authentic.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess what I mean was we try to mimic it. We try to mimic it, yep.
Speaker 2:Also from 84,. You got Ray Parker Jr Something strange in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna call off. Yep.
Speaker 2:And Ghostbusters becoming the biggest comedy of all time at the time Took that song and pushed it to another level, and that was a whole 1984 summer until once upon a time in July we start seeing previews and there's Prince with the girl. That doesn't look like Vanity, but I guess he's making a movie now and it's my shirt purple that's one of Troy's faves so it's a fictionalized version of his life story um his arguments with the band.
Speaker 2:His competition was one of his, they probably. They played them as rivals in the movie, but they're really, they're barely besties in real life. Morris day in the time, like prince, founded that group pretty much and produced their records, so not only you have to have conflict.
Speaker 2:I guess, yeah, hollywood, so not only do you have the iconic stuff from the Purple Rain album, the Ford Mitchell song, let's Go Crazy. Take Me With you the very freaky darling Nikki, and you know. I Would Die For you baby, I'm a star, you know. You've also got the times jungle love and they got the dance they do. At the end, the bird hallelujah god, this movie's so good.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched it in years.
Speaker 2:I've got to pull it back up yeah, and so you got that going on. And then, um, prince was dating vanity god rest her soul right as they were starting to ratchet it up, ratchet up filming. But they broke up and so he found an actress and gave her the name apollonia and she took vanity's group and they had a song with the song that they perform in that movie called sex shooter hold on, hold on. You know that song.
Speaker 1:I'm a sex shooter shooting up in your direction. So wait. Him and his girlfriend broke up, and then the new girlfriend took over her group.
Speaker 2:And the role in the movie.
Speaker 1:That's right. But it wasn't his new girlfriend, it was just an actress.
Speaker 2:But that's Prince, so he put the mojo on her.
Speaker 1:Prince, he was out there with the ladies.
Speaker 2:And after he passed I went to it was either the 35th or 40th anniversary remastering of Purple Rain back in LA at the Samuel Goldwyn Theater that's managed by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Apollonia was there, jerome Morris Day's sidekick was there, the producers and they all did a whole one-hour seminar or discussion about the making of Purple Rain and paying tribute to him. And then they show a remastered print of Purple Rain and we're sitting there clapping and singing along and everything. And, like I said, apollonia was beautiful. All those years later she was like wow, that woman was fine, she's so fine, not fair.
Speaker 1:Well, what was the most favorite? Okay, so you went to that. What was like one of your most favorite things? They said about the making of the movie that you heard there, do you remember?
Speaker 2:They said so much. I don't remember one thing. The only thing that stands out now that you mention it was just how much, how loving and a gentleman Prince was.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that he was not a butthole on set.
Speaker 2:you know, getting his freak on, he was very, very regal and elegant.
Speaker 1:That's interesting because you wouldn't like. He's a beautiful person and he was a ladies' man.
Speaker 2:And you wouldn't. I don't want to.
Speaker 1:He was a people's man, yeah well, true, I mean the two symbols't want to. He was a people's man. Yeah, well, true, I mean the two symbols hello, right, he was a people's man, so you would think sometimes, when people are like that, that they would be very not gentlemanly or kind or loving, right. So I love that that was what he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that and she was still in pain being his loss. But, like I said, said that was just a great time and of course, that album sold like 12 million copies. Movie made like 70 million bucks. 84 was not done with this. Yet, because, I'm sorry, around christmas you've got eddie murphy in his first solo starring role, beverly hills cop, which was was hilarious. It paid so much money but everybody forgets that the soundtrack was bangers, bangers, bangers.
Speaker 1:It was, that's right.
Speaker 2:You've got New Attitude by Patti LaBelle. You've got the Heat Is On by Glenn Frey. You've got Neutron Dance by the Porner Sisters, which is the famous scene where the cops are chasing the truck and the truck's just running everything over. You're just, you know. And that movie was so iconic that that theme song became a hit.
Speaker 2:You know the actual f1 exactly yes, that's right so that became a banger that sold a whole bunch of copies and whatnot. And there's a good stuff coming out of 84. I mean stevie wonder did the soundtrack album for his gene wilder movie called the woman in red and there were two hits from that. One of them is an American iconic standard that won an Oscar called I Just Called to say I love you. So that's from that movie. Phil Collins did the theme from this movie called Against All Odds. You know, take a look at me now, that song is fire.
Speaker 1:Here's a story about that I heard on NPR, so I don't remember the background, but there was a writer. She was going through a breakup and that's like one of the number one breakup songs Against All Odds. Right, he actually wrote that when his ex-wife left him and then it became this huge hit and he said it was actually really weird because it was such an emotional song, but he gave it to that film and that got nominated for an Oscar too.
Speaker 2:But everybody lost Like 84 was nuts. So you got Against God Lots I Just Called to Say I Love you. Ghostbusters and Footloose all got nominated that year, and Stevie Wonder won.
Speaker 1:Which one won?
Speaker 2:I just called to say I love you.
Speaker 1:That's a hard battle there. Space them out.
Speaker 2:So I had mentioned Vanity, you know, splitting up with Prince. But she resurfaces in 85 and Barry Gordy's the Last Dragon. It's supposed to be like this hip-hop kung fu mixture type thing. So where, there's this handsome dude in the hood who's like a kung fu master and he has to battle this dude. Show enough you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, I do not know this movie Me either. How do I?
Speaker 2:not know this movie the Last Dragon, yep, the Last Dragon.
Speaker 1:Never heard it.
Speaker 2:I have got to look this up and the big song that came from that is um, I mean, like I said, vanity is the love interest. Horrible actress she's in it, take that's it but the big song that comes from that is the song rhythm of the night by the barge for the beat of the random, I don't know words so that comes from that movie?
Speaker 1:yep it was a cover of it it was in wasn't it in the Goofy movie? Oh, I think it was 98 degrees yep doesn't count no, you're good.
Speaker 2:So you've got that. And a certain pop star who had just blown up decided she wanted to follow in Prince's footsteps, named Madonna, and so you've got her and Rosanna Arquette and Desperately Seeking Susan. I don't remember Jackson right about that movie. But everybody knows the song Into the Groove which comes from that movie.
Speaker 1:Into the groove boy. You've got to prove your love to me.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like what's the rest of the word Just?
Speaker 2:yeah, yep, and so you got that going on. And then another authentic piece of hip hop comes out in 85 with Russell Simmons telling his own story about him and how his brother, who is part of Run-DMC, all became famous, and that movie's called Crush Group.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen that either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's Blair Underwood, the famous black actor. He's his first lead role, and so Run-DMC's in it. The hip-hop group the Fat Boys who used to beatbox, they're in it. Lo, the hip-hop group the fat boys who used to beatbox, they're in it. Lmc is in it and like, yeah, like I said, right, dmc, and so, um, I didn't miss this one. And then the love interest in that movie is sheila e playing on the drums, you know, and so if you've got that, trying to make sure I'm missing everything, um, the oscar winner that year ended up being Lionel Richie doing the song Say you, say Me, from this movie called White Nights.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't remember that one either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you wouldn't have seen it. It was like Oscar bait, so it was like Alfred Roots.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't have seen that, but everybody knows the song.
Speaker 2:you know?
Speaker 1:And then Phil.
Speaker 2:Collins got a nomination from that movie as well, with this duet he did, called Separate Lives. So yeah. But then the most memorable song I remember from 85 was when John Hughes took over the world and had us in love with five kids on detention in the breakfast club and the iconic Don't you Forget About.
Speaker 1:Me. Hey, so exciting March 24th. We're recording on March 25th. Was the day they had their detention. Also, when you mentioned Elton John earlier today, I don't want to interrupt at the time, but this seems like the perfect moment. Probably not. It's Elton John's birthday today. He's 78. Okay, Elton. Happy birthday, sir.
Speaker 2:Elton.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, breakfast Club is, even though it's so problematic, it's still one of my all-time favorite.
Speaker 2:You're gonna have to DM me on why you find it problematic, because that movie is the truth to me. Listen unless you wanna and although there's one thing that I might be with you on, we might be on the same wavelength. I don't think it's cool that Molly Greenwald degaussed Ally Sheedy. She should have just let her cook. The thing I hate the most is where John Bender is hiding under the table and he shuts the door Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:So gross, not consenting, gross and inappropriate sexual assault that is made casual. I don't like that, but anyway I still love the movie and the soundtrack so good.
Speaker 2:I can't hear that song with simple, everybody hears don't you forget about me.
Speaker 2:And everybody immediately goes breakfast club john bender walking across that football field at the end even black dudes if that comes on all of us hey, hey, hey, hey, no shame, everybody knows what's up so by the time you get to 85 it's like I don't care what movie it was, they had some pop person singing the theme song, even if they didn't do a whole soundtrack album like everybody, their mom was like doing the theme For these songs that you never heard of. Just pick any random theme from 85, 86, 87, and you'll see, like Tom Petty, mark Branigan singing the theme song.
Speaker 1:This was like. I think that, like hearing all the history of like how movie soundtracks kind of evolved, like the early eighties, mid eighties is kind of when they started like really being at their peak, and this was a whole package by the time you get to 87, 88, you don't have a blockbuster without a soundtrack or a pop star doing that thing.
Speaker 2:That's how we get to top gun and kenny loggins singing danger zone. That's how you get berlin singing. Take my breath away in the love scene. You know, and you know all the heat, all the bangers that were in top gun. It's like you know, you play that movie, you subconsciously start humming along, you know.
Speaker 1:I like what you talked about On the show before, chris. We've talked about that. Like we didn't listen to a lot of music in my house growing up. My parents just didn't listen to it, but my dad had the cassette tape Top Gun soundtrack and I remember if we were in his pickup truck for several years there it was always playing. I just like remember that was always on. But my husband, who knows a lot about music of the time, said that Berlin actually hates that song because they were very alternative. Oh, and they became and like that's the thing they're like known for and like it broke up their band. I don't know all the details.
Speaker 2:But that song wasn't the best song oscar though, so they shouldn't be too bad. I don't know if they won it, if they wrote the song, because the oscar goes to the writers, not the performers. Yeah so, but yeah, berlin won that oscar that year. You know also what happened in 86. Prince has his second movie under the cherry moon, which is a hate it. This is so bad, it's good kind of movie I've never seen it.
Speaker 1:No, I've never seen it but that's why we have kiss that's that movie yeah, oh, oh, okay, whoa, I missed that cultural touch point a couple hits out of there too.
Speaker 2:You, you know you've got that. And then you get to 87 and Rebel Heels, cop 2. And Not too many hits came out of that one. I'm trying to think they did a big soundtrack push. So there's a song called Shakedown, shakedown, shakedown.
Speaker 1:That's in there, george.
Speaker 2:Michael's I Want your Sex is in there. During the gratuitous love scene, during the gratuitous script scene, just like women are dancing topless for no apparent reason.
Speaker 1:Money.
Speaker 2:But they're trying to chase this bad guy and they end up in this club and bam.
Speaker 1:They just ironically go through a strip club to catch a villain, so you can have boys on screen Patriarchy.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But then there's good stuff that comes from 87 too. There's I, I mean there's a few iconic things. Gotta mention pretty and pink, because if you leave comes from there, and then the theme song from there. But the big one that everybody stands on is you know, if you leave, you know that comes from there. Um, in the springtime you have less than zero that movie, um, which was the first time a hip-hop label got curated to do a soundtrack so yeah, so that was like def jams, like first major soundtrack, so you got the bangles hazy shade of winter.
Speaker 2:you got lo cool j going back to cali. You got public enemy bring the noise all coming from less than zero, mixed with a bunch of different alternative style tracks. It's like, okay, you see Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin really trying to spread their wings and monetize on a higher level, and it ended up being successful. But the big two from the summer of 87 were I'll go with the minor one first. They told the story of the late Richie Valens, and that's where Lou Diamond Phillips exactly. And so what's that group? They're right on the tip of my tongue. Richie Valens did the original, but I forget who did the remake.
Speaker 1:The people who redid it oh.
Speaker 2:Los Lobos Los. Lobos and so that became a hit in the summer of 87, but the one that tore the house down. Get ready, ladies. Jennifer guay, patrick squazy, dirty dancing summer 87 let's go I've had the time of my life from there close my. You know she's like the wind, oh she's like the wind, so good Okay. Funny story.
Speaker 1:One time I used to karaoke contests in college, not because I was a good singer but because I would do fun stuff. But one of Troy's really good friends. We went up and sang the Dirty Dances. I don't think I know this song and he was a good singer. He was like a lead singer of a band. I said you'll be fine and we won Yay, by singing the Dirty.
Speaker 1:Dances song Classic karaoke duet right there, right, and everybody knows it. So like that's a crowd-leaser, yep, and some drunk idiot is going to try and run across the room and have you catch them. So that's just going to happen I feel like you're small enough that that could work out. No, I've tried it a lot. What's that movie? What's that movie that Ryan Gosling was in, where he's like I can do the dirty dance lift, is it?
Speaker 2:the one with MSL, isn't it Crazy, stupid Love.
Speaker 1:Yes, crazy Stupid Love where he's like I can do it and she's like no, you can't. And she's like whatever. And he's like, no, I can do it. And then he does it, but that's not you. Most men can't do it. I ain't going to try.
Speaker 2:I will not try it. I will not. I will sit there and watch you fall Boom. That'll be me.
Speaker 1:Hands in that way have to take a whole human, like a person has to take a whole human and lift them up this way. That's very difficult. There's a reason why he was in the water, why he was in the what in the water? In the water, oh, in the water watch the movie again.
Speaker 2:It'll make sense. It'll make sense re-watch it.
Speaker 1:You'll figure it out when she's learning how to do the lip.
Speaker 2:Yes, in the water, okay, yes all right, and so you're bouncing from all that in 87. And then by the time you get to 88, 89, you start seeing hip hop appearing more and more and stuff. I don't know if you've heard of a movie called Colors yes, I seen it, that theme song and you pretty much could not go to a movie theater that weekend in la because you didn't know what you were gonna run into, because that was the crips and bloods and the lat, the latino gangs.
Speaker 1:You know they all descended on when that movie came out.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, yeah I was in la you were okay, you'll see that at the movies. I did not see that movie at the movie theater in los angeles. I had to wait to go visit my grandma in st louis, missouri, and I found the one theater that was still showing it and I saw that movie from start to finish and did not have an incident. And as soon as I saw it I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I didn't see this in la, if somebody would have done something stupid in the theater. Hip-hop shows up there. And then then also in 89, you get Prince doing the Batman soundtrack music, not the score, but that's where Batdance comes from, batdance.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck up, batdance.
Speaker 2:And then the beat switches. Who is this?
Speaker 1:Vicky Vale, that's where I was trying to go.
Speaker 2:That's where I was trying to go.
Speaker 1:That's what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2:yes, and so he's got a couple of hits from there. He's got what's that song? Party man comes from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the one where Joker, where the Joker is like going around.
Speaker 2:All hail the new king in town. Yes, and the end credits play scandalous.
Speaker 1:Scandalous. What's your favorite Batman movie?
Speaker 2:The Dark.
Speaker 1:Knight.
Speaker 2:Good choice, I didn't like any of the Batman movies until Christopher Nolan did his series. I didn't like none of the first four. I thought they were boring.
Speaker 1:Unpopular opinion. Sorry, I like Michael Keaton the best. No, I mean, he's good, that's my favorite, but then Christian Bale's my second. Yeah, troy, unpopular opinion.
Speaker 2:He put Robert Pattinson, that's his favorite, batman, okay, intriguing, I mean that was a really good movie, though, you know, I love that theme song from the new one, the one that's just monotonous Dun, dun, dun.
Speaker 1:I love that movie so much. It's depressing.
Speaker 2:That's a long, detailed movie, but it's really really, really good though. So other thing that happened in 89 in terms of hip-hop beating cinema you have the great public enemy doing fight the power and spike, please do the right thing. And there's the iconic opening sequence where rosie perez is doing just dancing and giving everything. She's got over the backdrop of. It's clearly a sound stage, but it's like when I really wanted to get my home theater or workout, I would just play that opening scene and turn the bass up and just sit there, because that was the first movie I ever saw in the city of Hollywood. Oh, fun time.
Speaker 2:So it was a big deal. I had one of my homies from high school at a car. He was like nah, we need to go over to your neighborhood, let's go to Hollywood. We end up and what I thought was one of the big theaters first time there, and when that song came on it was like thunder bass was screeching on the screen. So like, this is everything. Yeah, totally, you know. And then the other thing that happens is we find the rebirth of Disney.
Speaker 1:The Renaissance, the Renaissance.
Speaker 2:Because 1989, I believe that's Little Mermaid, that's under the sea part of our world, part in. You know we're still going to kiss the girl, you know.
Speaker 1:If y'all one of our first like in our first few episodes, we did a Disney Renaissance episode where we talked about the 10 films of the Disney Renaissance. So we have arrived there, yeah.
Speaker 2:Awesome.
Speaker 1:If you're listening to this episode, everybody you have not listened to our Disney Renaissance. Go back, Listen to it.
Speaker 2:So I'm sure y'all are covering Beauty and the Beast, both the film version and then the Celine Dion Peebo Bryson version and then the Peebo Bryson Regina Bell, a Whole New World from Aladdin, because those two crossed over and became hit, hit, hit.
Speaker 1:They were radio hit.
Speaker 2:I was somewhere the other day and I heard Celine and Peebo's Beauty and the Beast playing.
Speaker 1:That's iconic stuff there, you know, and like people would call djs back in the times where we could call djs and be like can I please hear beauty and the beast? That's where we weren't. That's what we were doing, yep, and then it's in 1990.
Speaker 2:There's pretty woman and the big song from there was it must have been loved by rock set. That's the scene where she realizes she's in love with richard gear and they break up, and that's the montage song got it.
Speaker 1:I don't think I remember that being in there, yeah yeah, so it's back near the end.
Speaker 2:and then the big thing that happened as we start winding things down on my whole timeline here the rappers came in play miraculously.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Go on there.
Speaker 1:Yep House party.
Speaker 2:Reguling movie distributor, new Line Cinema, who was just known for horror movies, including Freddy krueger and a bunch of low budget sequels, somehow squeezed together like five million dollars and said, hey kid, hey play, go make a movie. And so many years came off so good you gotta show our house party I know it's like go to florida, we gotta watch it together, kids can't be in the room because it's r-rated. But oh my god, there's a lot of f-bombs. It's so, it's so much fun it.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of F-bombs. It's so much fun. It's just a good time, kid and. Play are hilarious, they're fucking hilarious. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2:So they're literally just. You know, Play's parents are out of town so he wants to throw this big old house party and then Kid's grounded for getting in the fight, but he sneaks out and goes to the party anyway and there's dance, battles, and then there's three goons that he fought with by the R&B group Full Force, who are like chasing him through the whole movie and the kid ends up falling in love with Tisha Campbell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's so young, so young yeah.
Speaker 2:Look at Dan's hair blood off. That's so young, so young.
Speaker 1:Look at, dance her blood off, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, for real the big dance sequence in that is to a full force song called ain't my type of hype and that is like an iconic hip hop dance sequence. And so that little minuscule piece of money they threw into that. That movie made like $25 million which was like blockbuster for black cinema during that time. Same with um do the right thing uh. Same with spike's movie after do the right thing uh, not the one after what he did a jazz movie called. But more better to lose after do the right thing. But then, yeah. So genzel washington, wesley snipes are in the two leads in that one.
Speaker 2:But Stevie Wonder did his music soundtrack for the movie Jungle Fever. The album didn't really hit but there are really really really good songs off of Jungle Fever and that was summer 91. But the big explosion in terms of hip hop hitting all of it was 1991 itself. You got New Jack City, which I don't know if you've seen. New Jack City, it's Wesley Snipes and Ice-T and the whole album is just like all the hip-hop icons of the day. Yeah, ice-t doing New Jack Hustler, you've got Color Me Bad. I Wanna Sex you Up comes from that movie.
Speaker 1:I wanna sex you up Exactly. It's so fun. I like, as we're talking about all these movies we've talked about so many in like a short amount of time, I think the the best part is, like, what movie soundtracks do is they tell a story. Obviously, they add to a story, but it's also years later. It's like a flashback to like a nostalgic period of your life, like you can remember. Oh, that was the first movie I saw in hollywood.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's the first movie I saw where I, you know, fell in love with the main character, you know, whatever, like you remember all these things, or this is the first movie where, like you know, there was this big, huge dance scene and it was a big deal, and yeah I think that's where movie soundtracks from the 80s and 90s have such a pull on on all of us in our generation yep, so that happens with new jack city, like the floodgates are opening.
Speaker 2:And now next thing, you know, everybody's got a rap artist on their soundtrack now, and because getting played through rappers could be commercial, you got Ice-T playing the lead in New Jack City and a few months later, ice Cube plays one of the leads in Boys in the Hood.
Speaker 1:Oh my god man, I love Ice Cube. I really do enjoy him and I think he's a fantastic actor. Honestly Like, yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2:Yeah and that boys in the hood soundtrack has bangers all over and you got his track how to survive in south central, you've got. I'm forgetting the other big song from that movie, like tevin campbell's on there um a couple of rappers who ended up, you get, you know, later on on that album. And then there's the pulsating one by the guy who did the score, stanley Clark, called Black on Black Crime, and that is the bass that's playing when they're hunting down the people who killed Ice Cube's brother. That boom, boom, boom, boom. You know that's the total hip hop style loop mixed with film score, and that is such an iconic beat that they played. You know, that's the total hip-hop style loop mixed with film score, and that is such an iconic beat that they play, you know. And so that was fantastic.
Speaker 2:And then, like I said, next thing you know, good movies are everywhere, minister, society, who's the man? Um ice cube and ice key? They did this cheap movie called trespass, it's like. Then all of a sudden, everybody's like find your favorite rapper, put him in the movie and let him do the soundtrack. I mean, you got Tupac doing it.
Speaker 1:My favorite movie soundtrack with Ice Cube is Friday.
Speaker 2:Yep, there you go.
Speaker 1:That's my favorite, and I mean there was some really good music on there, but that was late night, that was later.
Speaker 2:No that was mid nineties, that was mid nineties.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, yep Cause.
Speaker 2:I remember when Friday um before it hit theaters, I was in college and we got a special screening, so we saw it before everybody else and so you couldn't hear yourself talk in that movie because we were laughing at everything. Chris Tucker was doing.
Speaker 1:God hilarious. That movie's so good. And I remember going to see Friday too. I went by myself because I wanted to see it. So bad, it was so good.
Speaker 2:And it was funny because Q was saying that his rationale for writing Friday was there's so much about the hood that's negative with the violence. He was like we had good days too, we had fun days too, and so he was trying to bring out the fun, but it was like just chilling in another neighborhood on the blocks. He was acting a fool, you know, weed heads and just a week, just a day in the life of that neighborhood and he brought some elements into it, you know, but a big fun movie but, yeah, yeah, rest in peace, james, with this room.
Speaker 1:No, no, yes yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a man, but the biggest soundtrack of the nineties yeah, he was a man, but the biggest soundtrack of the 90s and it was iconic on Saturday Night Fever levels was Kevin Costner and, in her film debut, whitney Houston, the Bodyguard.
Speaker 1:The Bodyguard yes, how could we forget the Bodyguard?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I was like Kevin Costner, I always love you. I have nothing, and always love you, I have nothing and um right to you. Yeah, all of that you know. They ended up selling 10 million and a movie made like over a hundred million Cause we were shocked that it was a good movie.
Speaker 1:Really, what Well, she was a great actress.
Speaker 1:Listen she they were great together and they wrote a really really good, good story, yeah like I think at the time it was like really well established what a good actor kevin costner was, and so for her to be able to play opposite him and like be at his level and it for to be a good movie, like you said, was just like shocking and great. Well, and now that we know like her struggles, I think I'm even more impressed that she was able to perform as well as she did and be going through the stuff she was going through.
Speaker 2:And the way that they ended up weaving. I'll Always Love you, because the song was already a hit before the movie dropped yeah. Now even her version. It's like weeks before the movie came out it was already sitting on the top of the charts.
Speaker 2:And so they're in a scene at some country bar and then some country singer sings that version. We all start giggling in the theater. This is how they're going to work it. And so we're like whatever. And then in the last scene of the movie she runs out of playing and she gives a big kiss, and then you hear her if I would stay, I would only be in your way. You know, it's like the way that they work. They say, ooh, they made this fit. And then that album just took off and sold all the copies and all the things. And that was her beginning of her, you know, acting career, um, taking flight, you know waiting to exhale.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 1:All that yes.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Okay so good.
Speaker 1:So we're. We're in the nineties, we're getting to the towards the end here. We've been talking to you for way long. I have to ask you these questions now. I have to we. Well, I won't say this, but I'm going to say okay, I'm going to let you think about it for a second. If we need to sing a medley, we will. What?
Speaker 1:We'll sing everything else we will what you say. Everything else, what is your favorite movie soundtrack? You could just say one of your favorites from the 80s and then one from the 90s. Think about it for a second, if you go down my list I know, yeah, 80s gotta be purple rain 80s gotta Purple Rain.
Speaker 2:Because, I know every song on that daggone album.
Speaker 1:Okay, 90s, we'll give you a second. We'll give you a second.
Speaker 2:There's a lot. 90s is tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough tough. The two that got the most airplay were Boys in the Hood and Men in Society.
Speaker 1:Okay, good choice. Katie, what is one of your favorites from 80s or 90s? Good, of your favorites from 80s or 90s? Good question, I don't know on 80s probably footloose.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, it was definitely one of mine. My number two probably from the 80s.
Speaker 1:Y'all know what another one of mine was. That's like not something you're gonna expect. My parents used to love the big chill soundtrack. My mom too. It was too dead, or was it one? No, it was two, it was two, and I used to listen to it all the time.
Speaker 2:It was half Motown records and half all the protest music from the 60s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 2:You know what that movie's about? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I watched it multiple times. It's depressing and sad.
Speaker 2:Do you know who the dead guy? Who played the dead guy?
Speaker 1:It was give me a second. Oh my God, was it the guy from Dumb and Dumber? Was it not the guy?
Speaker 2:No, who was it? Kevin Costner.
Speaker 1:Kevin Costner Circle back. See, I was thinking it was a fucking Jeff Daniels. That's wrong. That's wrong. Can you imagine Kevin Costner in Dumb and Dumber? No, I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying like I'm not making fun of you, but like he wouldn't smile, he would just speak like this the whole movie, because he just has that one inflected tone when he's angry, and when he's talking to a girl he just moves it down, just like this.
Speaker 1:That's a good assessment of Kevin Costner's vocal tendencies. I think my 90s, my 90s soundtracks damn, there were so many good ones. Well, I thought you would say Can't, hardly Wait. I think it is Can't For the 90s. It is. I didn't say the 90s, oh sorry, I just said 80s. But yeah, 90s is probably Can't Hardly Wait. Great, that's a good one. Friday would be mine.
Speaker 2:I was grown and gone. When Can't Hardly Wait, dropped Sorry and American Pie and all that. It's like I'm off the bus.
Speaker 1:We're doing a grown folks life. Yeah, fair, fair.
Speaker 2:I was courting the woman I eventually would marry back in those days, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, we are like at the end here. We've kept you for 90 minutes.
Speaker 2:I just get to wax poetic about stuff that I know. All my factoids I mean I have literally. If I send you my list, I just have titles and stuff. But all the knowledge stuff is just off the top of the dome from just studying this stuff and geeking out for so long.
Speaker 1:Well, this is what we do. We just like to geek out over all the things and we love when people are excited about stuff from the 80s and 90s so we can talk to them about it. But we are so grateful that you came on. We'll have you back again to geek out some more on other things.
Speaker 2:Please, please, please, please. Did you already do the John Hughes episodes?
Speaker 1:That's on our list for the summer. That's on our list.
Speaker 2:I want in.
Speaker 1:Zennial Girl Summer. Zennial Girl Summer Hashtag. I love that. We're going to do a book club. It's going to be a whole thing.
Speaker 2:We have a whole vibe Awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, Chris, so much for joining us.
Speaker 2:Thank you so so much for having me. This was a lot of fun talking about this okay.
Speaker 1:So, um, if people are in your area and they want to join in on your fun little get like meetup, what is your, what is the name of your movie? Meetup again, hold on, I have it, you do, yeah, dfw. Oh, movie Nerds, where can they find?
Speaker 2:you guys Meetupcom backslash. Let me put a link in the chat, because I just had that page open. We'll share it. We will put it in our show notes?
Speaker 1:Yeah, send it to us. We'll put it in our show notes. If y'all are in the Dallas Fort Worth area and you love movies as much as Chris worth area and you love movies as much as chris, uh, hit them up and get together and chit chat, um, anyways, until next time, everybody. Yeah, thank you for joining us. If you want to find us on youtube, go ahead. You can see chris's amazing shirt. Yes, find us on patreon. If you want to throw some money at us every month dollars, because we're an 80s baby we can't find any bonus content which we have to film after this, who knows what's going to happen?
Speaker 2:We never know, I know, we never know.
Speaker 1:But anyways, we will see you next time listeners. Thank you again, Chris. Yeah, Thank you. So much fun. We'll see you on our next episode. Bye, thanks, chris.
