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Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
We've got 291 Questions, Xennials
What questions would you answer honestly -- and what would require a little white lie?
Have you ever sat around a dinner table discussing apocalyptic theories?
If you like answering questions that do not have straightforward answers, you'll love this episode made possible by The Book of Questions by Gregory Stock (2013 edition).
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Hello, generation in between and welcome back. We have no witty quips to begin our episode Because we're just going to jump right in and tell y'all that it's just been kind of a messy few days, yes, maybe entire week. To start with I had banging research I was doing on a topic that we'll get to hopefully next week and, guys, my laptop died last night and I tried and tried and tried to fix it. My husband messed with it and he's like girl, it's broke. And let me tell y'all what I have the worst luck with technology. This computer is only a couple of years old, if that. And the guy when I bought it told me these don't get viruses very much. And it did. And I was telling Katie I think I just walk around with an electromagnetic force field in my body that when I touch technology it messes up and lo and behold, her computer was doing something weird just now, right, so my computer was fine all day. This is Katie, by the way. And oh, also welcome to Generation Inbetween. I said welcome, yeah, oh, you did. Okay, good, you said we don't have any witty quips. We'll go back.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Generation Inbetween, a Zennio podcast where we revisit, remember and sometimes relearn all things from the 80s and 90s there. Things from the 80s and 90s there we go, there we go, and we didn't even need a laptop or a script for that. You just did that like off the top of your head, correct. Good brain power there, zaniel. Yes, and so my computer was working fine until Dani got here, I know. But it's working fine again now. I think it just needed a little restart. Listen, don't we all? I know, right, I know, don't we all? Guys, I also had to go to two dental appointments.
Speaker 1:Oh dang, hello, my mouth is not numb. I texted Katie last night. I was like just so, you know, I'm coming after the dentist. So I had to get a filling and I was like my mouth might be numb still. So who knows how that's going to go. Thankfully, it's fine. I did, um, have crap all over my shirt, which is probably still there, because what they did was I got a filling and then they had me booked for a cleaning afterwards. But I had to get this special cleaning cause I had an infection in my gums.
Speaker 1:Guys, I have the worst, worst teeth and I take care of them, I swear they always will like, lecture me and they're like do you floss? I'm like, yeah. They're like, do this? I'm like, yeah, it doesn't matter, these are stupid teeth.
Speaker 1:I remember when you had I met you at the end of your Invisalign journey and when you explained to me all the different things you had to do to keep your teeth clean, I was like you must have the cleanest teeth in the whole world and it don't even matter. Friends, that just proves to you you can only fight genetics so far. Like my sister has horrible teeth and, unfortunately, my kids have horrible teeth. We pay so much money for it. Yeah, I think that's important to acknowledge though, because, yes, dental hygiene can help a lot, but if your teeth are more creviced or just the way your mouth is formed, it can. I guess, for anyone who has any dental guilt out there or parents don't or maybe it's the electromagnetic force field that breaks technology that also gives me bad teeth. It it seems like it could be related, because those things are so similar, I know, and Katie's been so busy so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just have had quite a week Not not bad necessarily, just a lot of things stacked on top of each other, and so I was trying to finish watching Dawson's Creek for our Dawson's Creek episode before Danny got here, but I couldn't finish it before she got here, so we're going to record that one next week. That's an extra thing we do. We try to do it every week, but it's okay, we'll record that one next week too. So all that to say, the banging research, which we won't tell you what it's about, because it's hopefully coming, it's going to hopefully, is on the back burner because there was still so much you wanted to get to. And, yes, ok, especially for younger listeners, could she have like finished it, maybe on her phone or something?
Speaker 1:The answer is no. The answer is no, friends, because Troy was like you can my laptop, but he has a Mac and I'm a PC girl and I was like my brain cannot handle that right now. Yeah, and I was like I'm already halfway done, like I had it all, everything you know, situated. You know you get it situated on your computer and it's like, and he's like well, and I'm like, plus, there's going to be like 20 pages of notes. I'm not trying to, katie and I's eyes are too old to read all that shit on our phone. No, no, yeah, you needed it. Yeah, we need a big screen, like for the delivery of the notes, correct? Yeah, yeah, no, we're not trying. And then, yeah, anyway, and we don't want anything to. So here we are. We got to rewind a little bit, okay, because I actually have to give credit where credit is due here.
Speaker 1:Okay, this idea was not mine originally. Okay, right, I listened to a podcast. I listened to many podcasts, but one that I listened to just recently thanks to my wonderful sister, tara, for turning me onto it is um, a podcast called last culture, he says, and it has Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers and it is hilarious. But they just talk about all kinds of things pop culture and they sing at the end of every episode and it's great and they're just fabulous and wonderful. So check it out. But anyway, one of their episodes a while back, um Bo I can't remember if it was Bowen or if it was Matt one of them found a book at like, a used bookstore or thrift store or something from the eighties. It came out in the eighties and they went through it together on air.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, and so last night, when I'm panicked and I'm like, what are we going to do? It was my responsibility to do research for the podcast this week. What are we going to do? We can't do trivia. We do trivia all the time. Plus, I don't know where the trivia is. I think I left it here, did you really? I think so. It's not in your bag. I think it's in that desk. Oh, okay, remember, we slid it and the thing no, I didn't get it before then. Okay, cause I was like great, now I don't even know where the trivia boxes are. We're supposed to do it at the end of episodes now, guys, anyway. So then I was like Eureka, I have that book that Bowen and Matt talked about on their episode. We could do the same thing.
Speaker 1:So thank you, las Culturistas, for being amazing and for giving us this wonderful idea. So this was your idea that we are also doing. Might be also fun to pass this idea on to another podcast duo. We know that's local. Yes, our friends Mel and Kayla, who gave our podcast a shout, so we're going to give theirs a shout. It's called it's about nothing and basically they just get together and chat about their week, talk about pop culture stuff and life, and it's very entertaining and it's a lot of fun. So, check them out. I feel like, yes, check them out, and yes, we should pass this idea onto them.
Speaker 1:So we'll tell you what the book is in a sec. So I'm going to give you the intro in just a minute. Yeah, so that's the buildup. This is how we got to the topic for today, correct? All right, and she has the book. I do have the book.
Speaker 1:She sent me a picture of the cover and I had never even heard of it. Okay, that was my next thing. So, katie, so the book is the Book of Questions, okay. So, katie, you've never seen this book or heard of it. No, even better, never. So I'm going to read you, um, the back of it first. Okay, this is the revised edition. The original one came out in 1987. Okay, they reissued it in 2013,.
Speaker 1:But there's been all kinds of other ones. It's kind of like remember how chicken soup came out with like a bajillion books? They had different versions of these that came out. Um, one was like for kids, one was about like love and sex, and it basically is a book of questions. Okay, okay, um, and so what we're going to do today, after I tell you a little bit about the book, we're just going to read the questions and we're going to answer them together, and they're like well, let me just, let's just die, let's just go right in, show the YouTubers what it looks like. Okay, if you're on YouTube it says TTPDB and I'm sure we'll have a picture of it in socials too. So if you're not watching us right now, I don't see why I was talking like that.
Speaker 1:All right, so the book of questions was written by Gregory Stock, phd. Okay, gregory, I'm going to tell y'all about him in a second, but he had a little note. I'm going to read you not the whole thing, because it's a little long, but he had a little note. Let me tell you about him first, actually. So in the back of this book it says about the author. It's quite interesting and I don't know a lot about him. I probably should have done a deep dive, but obviously I didn't have time. We decided this yesterday and you have no laptop, so we're good.
Speaker 1:Questions are Dr Gregory Stock's passion, interesting kind of passion, but anyway, he started asking them as a child and never stopped His question books, including the kid's book of questions and love and sex, the book of questions are many classics that have sold more than 4 million copies and have been translated into 18 languages. He has a PhD from John Hopkins and an MBA from Harvard, so he's super smart, at least with books. But this is where it gets a little interesting. He serves on the California Advisory Committee on Stem Cells and Cloning and on the editorial boards of the Journal of Evolution and Technology and Rejuvenation Research. I don't know, okay, I don't Okay.
Speaker 1:Stock has written more than 60 papers and three influential books on technology, ethics and public policy and life sciences. Here's the title of them Engineering, the Human Germline, metaman, the Merging of Humans and Machines into a Global Superorganism and Redesigning Humans Our Inevitable Genetic Future. Merging of humans and machines into a global super organism and redesigning humans are are inevitable genetic future. Yeah, I mean, it's all very interesting. Yeah, oh, I'm not done. I'm not done More more about about him.
Speaker 1:Stock has made more than 1000 media appearances to discuss questions and values, and he frequently appears on TV and radio as an authority on the implications of genomics Is that right? Gene questions and values, and he frequently appears on TV and radio as an authority on the implications of genomics. Is that right? Genomic Genomics Y'all know me in words. Okay, I think that's right. Genomics and other technologies. He was the founding director of the program on medicine, technology and society at the UCLA School of Medicine, and founding CEO of both Signum Biosciences, which is developing therapeutics for Alzheimer's, and EcoEOS, which has a genetic test to gauge personal vulnerability to mercury exposure.
Speaker 1:That's so many things, so that's a lot of words to describe one man. Yes, so it sounds like he, in addition to questions being his passion, he's very much in the science of like regeneration, longevity, engineering human life, but it seems like he's also very invested in the ethics of that. Yeah, which is interesting. Yeah, so I don't know. We'll check him out. I don't know, maybe he's a big tool and we don't know that, but this was in 2013. So I don't know Exactly. So that's when this um revised, yeah, so, so now he has a little note that he had in the forward when this 1987 book came back out in 2013. Okay, okay, you ready. Yes, and then we're going to jump into some questions. Okay, I still recall my first experiences with some of these questions 25 years ago, which now that would be even longer 25, 35, 37 years ago. Okay, there you go. Y'all know I hate math, something like that. Good job, katie Mathane.
Speaker 1:All right, passing interactions in cafes that turned into delightful tete-a-tetes, thank you so much for joining us. Bruce Springsteen's Tunnel of Love topped the charts, the Bill Cosby Show was heading the TV ratings, digital cameras, the web and the Human Genome Project did not exist. The World Trade Center still thrust 107 stories into the New York skyline, and a good mobile phone cost $2,500, weighed two pounds and had to be charged after an hour of talking at 50 cents a minute. Wild, right, that is wild. I had to throw that in there just because that's so and it's so applicable to like what we talk about it is. It is. Everything was different and yet nothing was different.
Speaker 1:People struggled then, as they do now, with money and family, love and loss, hope and fear. Okay, blah, blah, blah. They struggled, as we still do, to carve a place in the world and to understand themselves and others. Okay, I'll skip some of this. Lali, lali lu.
Speaker 1:Okay, the questions still jump from subject to subject. So even if you read them in order, you'll face unexpected issues and topics. Pay attention to which ones you're drawn to and what you shy away from. We react to questions that touch issues that are unresolved for us, so a question you might want to avoid might be the very one you should focus on. Too often we engage, oh too often we exchange small talk without really engaging one another. Try the questions here with some friends or strangers and see what happens. You may be pleasantly surprised. And when you go off on tangents, hey, generation in between, that's what we do. Allow yourself to voice some of those dangerous questions that you usually hold back, that we do not do, those flitting provocative thoughts whispered by an inner voice. Sure, they may be a bit awkward or intrusive, but often they're the very ones that open new paths to intimacy and understanding. Life can be juicy and engaging when we're grappling with issues we really care about.
Speaker 1:He goes on to talk about more crap, but we're not going to do that. There's one more little thing I was going to read. He said these questions are meant as a point of departure, not a destination, so you're not supposed to have one particular answer. These are open-ended questions. Okay, the more you engage with them, the more they will bring you. So I did one of these questions last night because Troy was like what are y'all going to do on the podcast? And so I was like, have you seen this book? And he had not.
Speaker 1:Now, my parents had this book. I remember this book. I don't know, my dad was really smart, he was a PhD. My mom was also very smart. I just don't envision them sitting around like reading this book, like yeah, but the reason I have this is because I I got it at. You know those like little free libraries oh yeah, cooper and I always look in those because we love books and we always put them in there and one day, one day, this was in there and it looks like nobody's touched it. So I think it seriously looks brand new, was like a gift somebody got and then they just never it. It's like a fun little, like not a stock, it almost could be a stocking. Well, it's a good coffee table book because it is fun If you're sitting around, like you know, during the holidays and you're like what are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I had one in college. When I was in college, they had the love and sex. One came out and it was pink, it was hot pink, and I bought it at like a Barnes and Noble or something and we would get that book out and like ask each other questions, like we were sitting around our apartment drinking or whatever. That book was hilarious, as I mean, it was also serious, because sometimes you think, oh, this is going to be a fun question, and then it's actually not. And then you know, right, so that's the story of the book of questions.
Speaker 1:Okay, so now what? So now, what do we do? The fun begins. So there are questions in this book. Uh, 290 holds. Not, wait, that's odd. There's 291 questions. What, what? Yeah, I don't know. So what you're going to do. We're both going to answer the question, but you're going to pick a number between 1 and 291. Why didn't they just go to 300? I don't know. You can't think of nine more questions. I don't think he said anything about that. Weird, sounds good, so. So the reason Well, and also Let me pick a number, the reason this is valid to our podcast is because this book came out in 87.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, right, all the things you mentioned in that change were so different from now, and it's true. And then they revised it to make those questions from the 80s more relevant, but even still, that was in 2013. So I don't know what kind of craziness we're going to bring in, but also you never know. Also, we kind of craziness we going to bring in, but also you never know. Also, we we kind of operate on nostalgia on this podcast. So this is a nostalgic book and some of these questions may be quite nostalgic as well. They might be, and all right.
Speaker 1:So should I pick a number then? Okay, I'm going to go with my lucky number, 54. Why is that your lucky number? It's my birthday. Five four. I was going to say there's 54 days in the month. Okay, that's my birthday, the 54th of January, which is what today feels like.
Speaker 1:I've always wondered how people picked lucky numbers. Like I know I don't really have one, but maybe mine should be 11, because I, my birthday is 11, 11. Oh, yours should be 11. Okay, well, that's it For sure, and that, that, maybe that should be. You heard it here first, but we'll do 54 first and let's see what happens. Oh, already, we're going deep, guys. No, okay, oh shit, are you ready? I don't know we, we can pass too if it's too much, okay, okay, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1:All right, if someone threw a party for you and invited everyone who ever mattered to you, who would you be most excited about seeing and who would you be most anxious about seeing, and why? Ooh, ah, jumping in, but I guess that's like that says ever mattered. So what about people that used to matter to you and now they don't? Right, right, yikes, yes, that's tricky, that's a tricky one, but I would say like ever mattered. I automatically my brain goes to like people I've lost. Yeah, it doesn't have to be, but like that's automatically where my mind went.
Speaker 1:I would say, probably my grandma on my dad. Well, my grandpa on my dad's side, my dad's dad, grandpa pops, yeah, yeah, oh, that's cute. Yeah, he was 93 when he passed, so I had a long time with him. That's a long life, yeah. And into adulthood, my grandma that was married to my dad dad's mom, um, passed when I was 18 and then he didn't pass. He'd pass a decade later, so I had 10 more years with him. But it was when I was like in college and all that.
Speaker 1:And he's just a really funny guy, really knowledgeable, worked on the railroad, like always, had funny things to say. When I said I was coming to florida, moving to florida, he's like well, you can keep your florida, I'd like my four seasons. And then that was such a good grandpa voice. Yeah, that's what it sounded like. And then when he met my husband so two quick things. When he met my husband, he he was like, oh, we weren't married yet, we were dating. And so he came over to my grandfather's house and he knew, okay, this is the man I think we were engaged, this is the man she's engaged to, because he was alive for my wedding and passed that same year, like a couple months after we got married Some of our last pictures are from the wedding, I know and he's like, oh, hello there, hold on, I got something for you.
Speaker 1:So he walks in his little back room and I'm like, uh-oh, you know, what's he going to give him? I was like, is it like a family heirloom? Like what's going to happen? And if you know my husband, he's very like standoffish. He's just met him, so he's trying to like, and he's super tall and can be intimidating, looking Very tall.
Speaker 1:And so my grandpa goes back there, comes back and he's got this trucker cap, what? And it's got like a silhouette of like a man, like bucking on a horse, what, like the horse, like on its back legs, okay, okay, and it says jackson hole, like shut up. Why is he giving him that? Which? I'm from indiana, so it's very weird. So, but you know, me and my husband are like, and like, my grandfather did not have dementia or anything, like he sharp as a tack, yeah, the day that he day that he died. So it's not like, oh, grandpa being weird again, it was just like weird. It's like what's he doing? But my husband's like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1:Like, my husband wears baseball caps and not only trucker hats. I've never seen him in a hat. He looks good in, but he doesn't. I wouldn't say he owns any trucker hats and he didn't back then. He has so much hair. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, so he gives it to him.
Speaker 1:And so my husband's like, thank you so much. And I just like, what the hell? And he goes. Oh, yeah, martin, he passed away. So his family brought his stuff down to the moose and I got that what I grabbed that for you, since I knew you were coming to this. Who's martin, his friend from the moose, dead? No one I've ever what the moose? Oh, like the lodge. Okay, yeah, it was like a moose lodge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he died. They brought down some of his stuff and my grandpa's like, he, this guy's coming to town, I better get him something. Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:So he gave him some dead guy's hat when he met him, and then every time after that, if my husband wasn't there and I was with my grandpa, he'd be like oh your fiance. I wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley, right, I mean, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't, but it was just so funny. Every time someone brings him as, he'd be like oh, that guy, oh man, which is so nice. Like he's not a violent person or scary Not at all. He just looks scary because he's so tall, yeah, and he has RBF, like Trey does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks mad all the time. Yeah, it's just funny. And so the reason I would want to see my grandpa again, in addition to these hilarities that ensued he met my daughter, amelia, loved her. We have pictures of him. He just loved her. He called her Poopka, which is Polish for little baby. That's so cute. But he didn't meet any of my other kids, yeah, and he met my stepkids briefly and was really sweet with them, but he didn't meet my other two kids, and so I would love to have him back. Um, so I'd be happy to see him with all my kids in tow, and maybe he'd bring me a trucker hat from beyond. I love that.
Speaker 1:Grandparent stories are great. So my grandma, my mom's mom, nani, moved down. I always say down. She moved up from Florida after she retired, um, she moved up to Louisiana. So my parents were separating and, um, she was going to help my mom like with me, like getting me to and fro. You know all the things that you need help with when you're a single parent. So I mean, my dad was still around, but he worked a lot, so any.
Speaker 1:And then my dad passed away, and it was a good thing she was there, but anyway she my nonny was, did not hold back on her opinions. Correct, like I feel like I'll probably be like that too when I. I already do that, but like when I'm old and I'll probably give people weird shit like trucker hat, it'll probably happen, It'll be fine. But so near the end of her life she was in an assisted living place. Her health wasn't great, and so when somebody is not great, they're kind of grumpy or whatever. But she also lost any kind of filter that she had, which wasn't much.
Speaker 1:And it was so funny that she did meet Troy before she passed away. She didn't see us get married, but we were living together at the time and we had just started dating and he came to slide out with me and I had lost a lot of weight since the last time she had seen me and I'm like oh, hi, nani, this is Troy. She didn't say shit to him, she looked at me and she goes well, it's good to see you're not rolling in here anymore. And his eyes go. I was like okay, thank you, yeah, it is, I appreciate it. And I'm like well, this is my grandma. And he was like okay, I'm like that, this is my grandma. And he was like okay, I'm like that's nothing. But that was the first words he heard her speak. Oh, my God, that's great.
Speaker 1:I would say anything with weight, grandparents will say one way or the other Are you eating enough? You're eating too much? Yes, at least grandparents of our generation Like our grandparents. Yeah, because then when I had lost a lot of weight, she would. She used to say I look like I had a lollipop head. You just couldn't win, I couldn't win. Just be whatever weight you want, your grandma's not going to like it either way. Oh, my God. Anyway.
Speaker 1:So the second part of that was anxious. I can't really think of anyone, so let me think about it. Oh, geez, I have a list. All right, well, I'll answer mine, okay, I think. I mean, I think the easy answer for a lot of people, if it's like everybody that mattered to you, obviously you would want to see people you love, that passed away, right, yeah, cause obviously I'd want to see my dad, but then that that also may would make me anxious too. Okay, cause I didn't.
Speaker 1:I feel like I didn't know my dad very long, cause he died when I was 11. Right, true, and so not not anxious in a bad way, but like not knowing what to expect. Right, like I think we talked about this too, like on another episode where, um, we had found a recording of my dad video and I hadn't heard his voice since I was 11. And that was just a few years ago and it was jarring because I didn't remember what he sounded like, which is weird, you know, like you think you're always going to remember stuff, but anyway. But then I think also I'd like to see, like you know, I I've met so many cool people like moving around a lot from being in the military, so I would be really excited to see friends that I haven't seen in a long time because they live in other countries.
Speaker 1:But, girl, you know, who I'd be anxious about seeing is some ex-boyfriends. I do not. That's. The only thing I could think was maybe that and I'm not going to throw shade to nobody because, listen, I don't know Maybe this child got his life together. I mean, I got my life together, so I hope he did so. There was one ex-boyfriend and if you knew me in college, you know who I'm talking about. It did not end well. It was not a good relationship and I would not be excited.
Speaker 1:But you know what I think might have changed since 1987 to when this book came out? Part of the reason there's people I wouldn't be anxious to see is because I still know so many people oh, social media and see so many people. Not that there wasn't? Yeah, well, there wasn't. Obviously in 2013 there was, but not in 87. I'm thinking like people from high school, all the people that I care and cared about, I can contact and see and could reach out to, or, if I haven't seen them in person, I've seen them online. So there's not a lot of like way back people off the top of my head that you can think, that I can think of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will say, someone sent me a friend request when so this would have been 14 or 15 years ago because my daughter, amelia, was an infant, and that made me anxious. I accepted it. We're good friends still today, but I hadn't heard from her in probably 10 to 12 years because her family moved and you know we were 10 or 11 when her family moved. So it was like, well, how am I going to keep track of you? It was like 1993 or 94. And when she sent me one, I hesitated because we both came from very conservative backgrounds and this was right after I had had my daughter and I was a single mom, and I was a loud and proud single mom. Like I was on Facebook sharing pictures of our life and like you know, just like being myself and living out loud.
Speaker 1:And I was anxious to accept it because I was like this was like my best, yeah, friend, and I'll tell you what. She kind of went the same way I did. But, yeah, I accepted it. Yeah, she, she's not, um, a member of the church like she. She was like we're still really good friends today. We ended up. She lives in texas. I ended up seeing her a couple years later, because I was through there for work and it was just the best time. Well, see, there you go.
Speaker 1:But that was someone I was anxious, maybe, to say yes to. But that might be why I don't have anyone on that anxious list, though, and I feel like there's probably plenty of people that would say they'd be anxious to see me again because I am very different than I was years ago. Me too, probably. You know, there there's probably people that would be like I don't want her to know them, whatever, right, just because of how, same same, how they knew me before, right? I mean, I've had 80, 100 different lives and personalities. Oh gosh, me too, me too, we all.
Speaker 1:I mean like, I feel like I can't believe that I am still, um, like, my husband still puts up with me because it's a different person every few years, like, but I think that's what you're supposed to do, like you're supposed to evolve, you're not supposed to still be like. I feel like once you stop like the metamorphosis process, then you're not learning anything new, you're not growing, you're not healing, of course, and you can take the important things with you as you go. You don't have to totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw something recently that said, instead of asking what do I want to do with the rest of my life, ask what interests me right now. That I want to explore more. Ooh, I loved that Like that, because that kind of addresses what you just said. Yeah, you don't have to be this religion or this job or this identity your whole life, but that might be something you're really into. Like, I ran marathons, I distance ran. In that it was almost like, oh, this is releasing me from something. I was kind of over anyway.
Speaker 1:But I think sometimes we feel bad if we don't do something we always did, or just like if you're a mom that is, or any parent that's getting back in the workforce, you're like, oh, I'm not there as much, or but that it's, we don't have to, to your point, always do the same things. That the reason we don't do the same things over and over is because now we're doing something else, right, that interests us, that we want to explore more, or that we just need to, like, become a better human, right that too. So sometimes, yeah, anyways, so we got all right, number one, number one, all right, you want to go? Oh wait, oh wait, wait, I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read the one. There's um another one on this page, 53. Let's do it. 53. I just want to see how you answer this. Oh my god, I'm scared.
Speaker 1:If you could use a voodoo doll to hurt whoever you wished, would you use it on anyone and if so, who? Who? Honesty Katie, there's only one person in the whole world that it would be a maybe, and I'm too afraid to say on anything digital, so I'm not going to. How about you? Yes, I would One or more. Oh well, I mean, honestly, my, I don't even care if this is on a digital anywhere.
Speaker 1:My sister has an ex that I actually. She has several. You need a lot of one of them, and you know what. I won't say which one, cause she has quite a few. So they, they can't incriminate me. There's one that I yeah, I would just like to really hurt something on his body. I would use it, I would. I think that's fair if it's like in defense of someone else. Yeah, I think that works. Yeah, and I don't think he has had any kind of what's the word? Progression in his self. He hasn't evolved past it. Ah, I, I don't know. I don't care if I ever see that man again. I you better hope he ain't gonna see me again. Okay, wait, whoever you are, I was just curious. You're nicer than me on on many levels. But she said, maybe. She said there's one. She's not gonna say so, there's one. I think we can all probably think of at least one. I mean, I know that that makes us sound bad, but I think it's human nature. Like you're not actually gonna go do it. Well, right, it's okay.
Speaker 1:The question asked us. I know, hypothetically, it's the book's fault. It's the book's fault. We're not sitting here plotting it. Pick another number. Well, no, you have to pick a number. No, it doesn't matter. No, I want. No, it was my episode day. Well then, you're picking all the numbers, picking them all. Yes, oh no, it's my episode. Well then, we're picking your new lucky number. Okay, oh, that's a good idea. All right, thank you. Here we go. All right, I said no. You said you're not holding this book. You're only answering questions from this book. Okay, oh, oh, this is a good one. Would you like? And it? It's interesting that you should answer first this time. Okay, okay, it's interesting that this is asked.
Speaker 1:This was written in 2013. Oh okay, would you like there to be a law requiring the police to archive video footage of everything they do while on duty. Isn't that a law? Basically, it is right, it's a requirement. Yeah, body cam and all that is required everywhere, right, but let's just talk about it. Yeah, I mean obviously. Yeah, I think they should. I mean, if your job is to protect the public, then you should have no shame. I mean nothing to hide. You should be.
Speaker 1:I feel like, if you have any kind of interactions with people that can affect their livelihood life on such a big level, like incarceration or death or injury or just any kind of being convicted of a crime or a car accident or anything, yeah, you need to have that proof. I don't know what do you think. Yeah, I didn't say that exactly right, but I know what you mean. Know what do you think? Yeah, I didn't say that exactly right, but I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, no, I think so, and you know, I listen to a lot of true crime stuff and it's important for that stuff because people do more so before, but still now people do get arrested for things they didn't do or they're treated with brutality not most of the time, but it does happen.
Speaker 1:And and I wonder, though, when I what I was thinking about, why it kind of looked like I was thinking about it when you gave that answer is are there other occupations where we need this Like? There's people who would argue that we knew this for teachers, I mean, yeah, I think it's interesting to think about, because where's the line, I guess, in our society of videoing everybody all the time? Right Like big brother, right Like 1984. Right, but anytime you're in a public space, basically you're on, you're on, you're on surveillance, now Surveillance, just assume you are.
Speaker 1:I feel like, though, when you are, when other people's lives are in your hands, whether you're teaching them, uh, interacting with them for public safety, whatever, you are held to a different level of accountability, like you are held to a high level of being. Um, why are words failing me today? Jeez, louise, it's the yeah, like you said, like accountability, like you were held to a higher standard. Yeah, and you know, we all mess up and we all make mistakes, and that's fine, like, but there's some things where mistakes, your mistakes, uh, some jobs, some occupations, some positions where your mistakes can be lethal, sure, right, right, which I think is. I guess maybe that's where police and teachers differ a little. Oh, yeah, because, police, any incident could be violent or fatal, right, and it could be because of some of the actions you are taking as a police officer. Correct, if you are not upholding what you are supposed to be doing or if you are trying to elevate yourself to a place that you should not be. But anyway, yeah, I won't go into all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I just think that's interesting that it was written like should we do this? Well, yeah, we've done it. Isn't that interesting? All right, so pick another number, let's do. Let's do my age 42. Okay, you don't want to do any triple digit numbers, do you? I guess not, I forgot, it's weird. 291. 291. I only want to do it if it's in the 300s. So, sorry, sorry, doctor, whatever your name is, gregory Stock I had to check his name, gregory Stock. I almost said Spock, because that rhymes with stock, and then I realized that's not right.
Speaker 1:This is a good one, okay, do you think the world will be a better or worse place 100 years from now? Do you see our present world as a better place than the world of a century ago? How, so? Oh? Oh, that's loaded, all right, so that's two parts, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, three technically, so let's just start with the first one. Okay, do you think the world will be a better or worse place 100 years from now? It depends what we mean by worlds. If we're just talking about, like our planet, worse, I think I don't know that we'll be here, I know, 100 years from now. I know it's terrifying, yeah, but maybe we'll have had the capacity to be somewhere better, but I don't think it'll be here.
Speaker 1:Like, leave the planet, yeah, would, yeah, would you do that If I had to? Would you? Yeah, I would. I think we're what do you think about that? Because, like, I think it's an interesting concept to think of it from a different angle.
Speaker 1:I heard a podcast about this one day, or maybe I read a book, I don't know Something, talking about colonizing other planets. Like we can't get enough by just colonizing other countries. Now we're going to take it off the earth because we couldn't take care of the planet we're on. So we're just going to take up. I mean, essentially right, because it is. So that's okay with you. Well, I'm just putting you on the spot, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I mean, I guess it depends. What other life is there. If it's like life, life, then that's a different. The ethics of that are different, right? If it's just a planet with nothing on it yet, then and we have to create the conditions to survive, whether it's water or air or whatever then I think colonizing in that respect would be fine. I don't know, I think it's so and I feel like part of it is very like an American way of thinking of like well, we just messed up here, let's just move on to somewhere else, right, right. But I agree with you, I think I think we're going to I don't know, I think I was holding on to so much hope for a while and I feel like recent events have been like, well, shit, we're really, yeah, really just going to keep fucking things up.
Speaker 1:Aren't we? We just can't do right? Like, yeah, just like yeah, cannot, yeah. And I, I was just thinking like we'll have grandchildren yeah, probably still. I was just thinking like we'll have grandchildren, probably still living in a hundred years, if they live a long life, which is contingent on a lot of the things that, like you know. So that's kind of interesting to think about, that some of us will exist in some state, right? So what do you mean? Like we're gonna be floating heads, I mean, I guess. But what I meant was just like our dna, oh, dna, yeah, our legacy, floating heads, our, our legacy that echoes throughout time, or whatever they say in um gladiator that I just totally misquoted, um, but yes, so it. I. So I think I think it'll be worse here, but life as a human might not be worse. That's my answer.
Speaker 1:So you think, environmentally, yeah, I don't know how we reverse what we have now. Oh, I know we can't. I don't think we can. That's the thing is, I don't think we can either. And now, granted, everyone knows that we are not scientists. No, I hope we're wrong. I hope It'd be better to stay here and for life to be better, but I think we need to get for, in order for that to happen, there's gotta be a whole lot of people wake up and really get, and everybody get on board, correct, and we have to work together. Guys, I do. And that it's not happening right now, not so much. It's not happening.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what's the other part? Do you see our present world as a better place than the world of a century ago? I'm going to say yes. I mean, it's weird, right 1925. Right To now. Yeah, I mean I think like things definitely evolve and change, right Um, but sometimes I think, uh, like things that we have helped us a lot as a society, like technology, have also hurt us a lot, sure, like I feel like our, our ability to connect to each other is worse now, obviously, medicine is better, like um, communication is better, I mean, human rights are better question mark, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Like um, in some ways, yes, in some ways. No, some ways we were getting there and now we're reversing. So but I feel like sometimes the advances have really good benefits but also hurt us in other ways. Oh, that's totally true. You know what I mean. I just think, when I think of, obviously I was not alive in 1925, but when I know Pops was who I talked about earlier, he was born in 1920. Little kindergartner.
Speaker 1:But when I think about what we know of that time frame and what we know of now and I think it was, like you know, before World War II, before Vietnam, like all this stuff I think I feel happy to live in this time. Yeah, I, I think I'm I feel happy to live in this time. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you should ever want to go back in time. Do you know what I mean? Right, that's what I mean. I think you never want to regress, correct, you always want to progress. But, like, I do think there's something like.
Speaker 1:I do feel like our, our ability to connect as humans is struggling. But then again, back then, there was a lot more division too, like there was so much more separation and women weren't allowed to do things like speak or say you know, and you know people of color? That's a whole other thing. I mean, people weren't allowed to live as themselves. Do you know what I mean, right? So, yeah, I think it's better now. Yeah, I do. Ok, we already talked about it, even though there's still problems.
Speaker 1:Ok, I'm just going to turn pages. Now, I'm just going to turn pages because you know I'm not going to finish. I'm going to go to the back, all right, ooh, ok, if you could put a near perfect lie detector on your phone to flag any dishonesties, would you? You're going first this time, but does it mean any dishonesties around you or for yourself? I think that's for us to decide. Okay, so you go first. What's your interpretation? Hell, no, because here's the thing I hate dishonest people. You hate them. Yeah, okay, I mean, okay, rewind, I don't hate them. Thank you mom. Thank you mom. I always tell my kids, yeah, I always tell my mom, I always tell my kids, like, hate is a very strong word, but okay, I really.
Speaker 1:One of my pet peeves is dishonesty, however, but we all know sometimes we have to have white lies, and I'm talking about things like if you're running late to a doctor's appointment or, like you, you have to reschedule, and you'd be like oh, my kid's sick, blah, blah, blah, blah, right. Or let's say you and I say this because I'm married to an introvert who loves canceled plans and I hate canceled plans You'd be like oh sorry, we can't make it, when actually you really could make it. You just don't want to go Right. So that's a little white lie, it doesn't hurt anybody, like whatever. So, hell, no, I would not want that. What about you? I don't think I would, either Because you're a liar or because both. I'm just kidding, no, but I mean yeah, I just think.
Speaker 1:I think it's sometimes easy to tell when people are lying. There are people who are really good at it and you can't like whether any of your kids good liars'm trying to think. I don't think so. Cooper is a good one. Is he a good liar? Oh, my gosh, probably because he's an actor. Yeah, well, your kids are actors too. But I'm a shitty liar, like I have all the tells. I think my I would say, like my son, I don't want to be like he's a good liar. Well, I mean, I think he's a liar by omission.
Speaker 1:I think there's a lot of things we don't know just because, whereas, like my girls, just like everything just flows out of them and it's kind of hard to backtrack and if they're not telling us, they're telling each other. So it's kind of pointless to try to lie, because I mean, I'm sure, of course, you know kids get away with stuff and I'm sure they do, but like I don't know. But what I was thinking when you were saying the thing about the doctor's appointment and the party is like I'm thinking very liar, liar, jim Carrey, what if you didn't lie about that? What if you didn't, not you personally, but like people? What if you were just like I'm not coming to the doctor today because I'm overwhelmed and I know I made the appointment but I can't make it, or we're not coming to the party because our social battery is zero.
Speaker 1:Like I think, sometimes, though, there's an appropriate time to not tell the full story, and I don't mean like, I don't mean completely lie, right, but like if it's going to hurt somebody's feelings true, for unnecessarily. Do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes it's going to hurt somebody's feelings, but it's better to be a hundred percent, and I don't mean 100% like lie. Like I said, if you say sorry, we can't make it, instead of we just don't want to come because your kid's annoying, or something like that, right, I guess you have to have tact. You know what I'm saying? You have to have tact, yeah, because tact is a communication strength, and I mean there have been.
Speaker 1:I mean like, and, granted, I say this like, I have white lies all the time. But I think if we all sat down and thought about white lies through your day, it'd be like oh, ooh, uh. If you actually tracked it somehow, if you had a little lie detector on your phone that told you and at the end of the day, you reviewed it and it showed you all the times you did it, you would probably be surprised, right? But I try really hard to be authentic and be honest and I like I mean there's times Katie and I are like I'm not coming Cause, I just, I just can't. Like, I just don't want to, like I have no mental capacity, or like I'm not going Cause, honestly, I just don't want to yeah, like, yeah, you know, or somebody will be like oh, of that environment. So no, I'm not, yeah, but you know, I think that it's okay to. Yeah, I don't want.
Speaker 1:And also like, if it's on the phone, like when you call customer service or something, and they're like, how are you? You're like, I'm fine, even if you're not. Like they don't need to know that you're doing absolutely terrible Right, so that's a lie. Like if you're not fine, but like the customer service rep at Amazon don't need to know You're right, like I agree. I mean I, and I think too, just this idea that, like if the lie detector detects everyone else's, it makes you feel uneasy, because then you feel exposed. Like, oh well, can someone do that to me? You feel uneasy, yeah, because then you feel exposed like oh well, can someone do that to me.
Speaker 1:And I think, just as humans, we don't want people reading our thoughts, whether they're lies, whether they're good, whether they're bad. What's that movie with Mel Gibson where he can read women's minds? What is that one called? Is Helen Hunt what Women Want? Yeah, oh man, I wonder if that's that probably has not aged well, oh, oh God, I bet it's terrible. I bet it's so bad that might be a rewatch we might have to. Oh, I'm already remembering parts of it, and he's a whole, whole, entire problem these days. But that's fine, yeah, um, okay, there's follow-on questions. We already answered one.
Speaker 1:It said. If, if so, would you use it a lot or just for a specific conversation we're going to talk about? Um, okay, do you think we'd be better or worse off if we always knew when we were being deceived? How might society be different if everyone had to tell the truth all the time? Well, it's kind of to the point of what you said. People's feelings might get hurt more, yeah, or if that's just the standard, maybe people's feelings might get hurt more, yeah, or if that's just the standard, maybe people's feelings get hurt less, right, maybe we, or maybe we just all learn how to communicate different, right, like you, adjust to that.
Speaker 1:And it's like oh, someone's just going to tell me if they don't like my kid, correct. Well, that's fine, cause I'm going to tell someone else I don't like their kid and it all evens out, right, I don't like a lot of people's kids, oh, y'all know that. But you didn't say hate. I'm proud of you. I don't hate children. Okay, I'm not a week. Okay, I can't wait to make a clip of just you saying that I don't hate children.
Speaker 1:I mean, like the witch from the role doll books, they hated children. Yeah, that, yeah, that's what I meant when I said a witch. I'm not no offense to the witches out there. I know y'all don't hate children, okay, unless you are a witch from the Roald Dahl book then. And then you do, you do, and they smell bad. So, but that is that. Checks.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, children generally. I mean I like Katie's kids, I like my kids. If you're my friend, I probably like your kids and your lessons, because some of y'all got some kids. Listen, actually, I can't really think of anybody. Yeah, not, not. I mean I can think of friends when I had, when my kids were younger. Yeah, that I was like, oh my gosh, their kids are so much and I'm sure they've grown up to be lovely, charming individuals now. But anyway, yeah, moving on from that. All right, all right, all right, we're going to flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. Where should we land? Ooh, this is a good one.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're not doing the follow up because it's going to be too much and too hard, okay, okay, what is so important to you that without it, life wouldn't be worth living? Would your answer have been any different 10 years ago? I mean, obviously, my children, my like, I like, I can't imagine I'm not saying that if I had taken a path without children, I wouldn't have a fulfilling and lovely life. But since I actually have them, I would say my, my children, and 10 years ago I had all of them. So I don't think my answer would have been different 10 years ago. That one's an easy one for me.
Speaker 1:I literally was not going to be as deep with mine and the first thing I thought of was chocolate. I love that, katie's, like my children, I'm like candy sugar. Oh man, I wasn't going to go as deep. Um, because, seriously, okay. So this is why that popped in my brain.
Speaker 1:We talked about this with our family, because one of Troy's sisters, um, her husband, is severely lactose intolerant and it didn't happen until later in life for him. He was like in his twenties or something. Um, so he like knows what he's missing out on, right Dang. So it's not like a food allergy that you've had your whole life and you're just like, well, I've never had nuts, so like whatever, I don't know what I'm missing out on. But I think, and it's like some people I know that have severe like gluten stuff now, like that they can't have bread at all and they're like, oh my gosh, I just remember so we were talking about that Like I'm like, cause Troy's like I would have the hardest time, like not having cheese, and I'm like I think I could live without cheese, but like chocolate, I mean of course I could live without it, guys, I mean obviously you could, but like you wouldn't want to.
Speaker 1:Like that makes me sound really stupid. That like I love that doesn't sound stupid. Well, and it sounds like this was kind of preface, because you sort of had a conversation, I know, I know. So it's like at the front of my brain, at the front of your brain. Yeah, I mean like Okay, so this is where it gets deep.
Speaker 1:No, so 10 years ago I was 34. Yeah, yeah, and I was still a big part of a church life. Okay, cause I have left. I have left Christianity as a whole now, but that was a very, that was a slow burn, evolution, that kind of happened. You know, piece by piece, but it was kind of around that time, cause that was 2015,. 2016 is when it all started unraveling. Figure it out on that, what was happening in 2016. And then in 2020, 2020, it kept going.
Speaker 1:Um, so I probably would have said 10 years ago, uh, something like Jesus Christ, my savior Okay, probably not in that accent, I don't know why I did that. I was like, wow, your voice changed too in 10 years. What happened? I became like some Georgian housewifewife, I don't know. So you can live now without, obviously, because, because you do, because I do every day, you do every day, you're gonna make it.
Speaker 1:Um, but it's interesting because how dumb that the first thing I thought of was something so trivial as chocolate. Now, granted, obviously I agree with you, like my kids obviously are, are I can't imagine our life without them in it. I mean, that's an obvious answer. That's true, I didn't, I didn't really go below the surface for that. I well, I mean, obviously I did not go into the depths for chocolate, but, but it's interesting to me to think that my first answer 10 years ago would have been something else, because I was in just this whole different mindset of what that looked like. Yeah, that everything had to be focused on that. Yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:So, and it kind of kind of gives me like so, and it kind of kind of gives me like like, um, what's the right word? What's the right word? Like a bodily reaction and a negative way to remember that. Because, because what happened was there was like this and you'll you'll know exactly what I mean. There was a constant cycle of guilt and shame and frustration, because you felt like you were just always working for this goal that was unattainable Right now.
Speaker 1:Granted, listen, if you are a Christian out there, very devoted Christian faith follower, I'm not throwing shade to you. Okay, like, I totally support everybody following their religion as long as it's not hurting other people. Okay, as long as you're not dehumanizing other people and treating them well. Are you falling asleep? No, okay, I'm listening to you. I was like am I? I'm trying not to interrupt you. We're going to have to watch the video there to see if I was nodding off. One eye started closing. I swear to God, guys, I'm saying like this big moment, and Katie's one eye, she's totally listening, because I was waiting until you had a pause so I didn't interrupt you so I could say, okay, go for it. Like someone's belief system is very integral to them. So this is your belief system now and that was your belief system then.
Speaker 1:And my mind is still in family. I think you know what, though, going back to what we were with children, family, et cetera, I'm going to take, take it even even bigger and say I think what is so important to me that life wouldn't be worth living on a bigger, more enveloping thing is human connection. So I think, if I don't have like, if I got isolated, living by myself somewhere, I have to be real with you. I couldn't handle it. And I think the times in my life when I felt alone and so lonely we've all had times like that that's when you feel like I don't want to be here because I am so alone. That's a really great point, right.
Speaker 1:The same way, and I think you and I in general you know there's a big scale of it, right, the Myers-Briggs, but we tend to skew toward that extroversion, yeah, moments of needing time to ourselves, but I'd say, even people who aren't like that. Just it is innate to humans to need a community of some sort, even if it's one other person right To need that. And so, yeah, I think that I couldn't live without that either. It's just that you sort of have it built in. If you still have children that live at home with you, or you have a partner as well that you live with which not everyone does, but we do, so it's easy to like. That human connection is, yeah, oh, it's the family that lives in my house with me, you know. But also you can extend that to friends and just community members and like-minded people. And I would even say you know the social media aspect.
Speaker 1:I know technology is bad or whatever, but when I think back on, when I first kind of got on social media was when my daughter who's 16, going on 17 was first born. That's when I got on Facebook and that's when I got on Instagram. So I really associate the last 16, 17 years of my life with that, as well as being a parent and like so. Much of my identity is sort of wrapped up in how I've had activities on there and that's an integral part of my life. That's how I have kept up with a lot of people. That's how I've reconnected with people, same same. So I mean, could I live without social media? Yes, would I be happy? Maybe, maybe I'd be happier, but it does feel like something that I is a big part of my life that I would not want to not have. Yeah, I mean, I will say as as much as social media is toxic and we've said that before on here. I mean, like I said, moving around with military, I have friends all over, right, um, not because I've lived so many places, but because they've gone off and live in different countries and you know, whatever. And I love being able to see all the stuff they're doing. And like my little best friend that lived down the street from me when I was growing up, alicia, hey, girl, oh yeah, um, I can see her kid, like we've been able to watch each other's kids and like send each other pictures, but I haven't seen her in person in decades. Yeah, you know, and so I agree with you. But anyway, human connection.
Speaker 1:There's another product question. We're going to do or not? What do we think? One more what time is it? How long have we been doing questions? Hold on, guys, it's 1.43. Here I come, youtube. Oh, 59 minutes and 55 seconds. Wow, when I looked at it Now, we have just gone over the hour mark. All right, we'll do one more. One more, okay. And then we Read the question while I look for trivia. Oh, but oh, you might hit the camera. Okay, we're getting there, guys, all right. Okay, look at me, I was right, everyone. Okay. So we found our trivia for the end. More questions, more questions, okay. Yeah, we're going to end it with a saucy one. We got a good one, okay. Oh, this is so good, I'm ready.
Speaker 1:All right, you're on an airplane, talking pleasantly to a stranger of average appearance. Oh Lord, oh, it's going to be unexpectedly. The person offers you $30,000 for one night of sex. If you knew there were no danger which I'm assuming means you'll live, you won't get diseases, et cetera, and you'd get the money, would you do it? If the payment were meaningfully raised or lowered, at what point would you change your answer? Oh my God, are you first or am I first? I'm first. Are you first or am I first? I'm first. Listen, that's like that movie Indecent Proposal, but I mean, hello is Robert Redford. He is not average. He's not an average looking person, but I think average that's weird, I guess.
Speaker 1:Whatever you think is average, yeah, because what if I think they're really good looking? I mean, attractiveness is objective, absolutely Subjective. Which word is right? It's attractiveness is subjective. Did I say that wrong? It's up to the person. What is objective. Objective means it's like a fact. Oh, so exactly the wrong thing. Like objectively, it's right now. See, guys, this is what I do on this. I get everything wrong. All right, it's objective to you. You know what you find attractive. Okay, so it's subjective. So, whatever you would think, whatever you would think, yes, I mean, I think that's like the least important part of that question.
Speaker 1:Anyway, because it's like, I think, because you'd be, I think you'd be doing it for the money, no matter what they look like. Yeah, but if, if you thought they were okay looking, it would not be as bad, true, true, I think. I think I would do it, would you? Yeah, I think, cause I I'm thinking about my husband I don't think he would mind if I was. Like we're paying off a car today. I mean, I think mine would be 50,000, would be my, why? 50, don't know like what's that? I mean, it is $20,000 actually. No, I don't know, I think I'd have to, I think it would. For me it would have to be triple. Here's why I have so many hang-ups.
Speaker 1:And now, granted, it said you have no danger, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't. It's like that movie, guys. It's not like you wouldn't have emotional repercussions, true, or like regret. Or then you have to walk around Because I told y'all in the other episode, I am like a monogamous person. I am so jealous Now I'd be the one doing it. But then I think I would take that into my marriage and feel like crap all the time. But then, like I guess here my kids, my kids, will ask weird questions, obviously not sex questions, but like they'll ask questions like if you had to do this or that.
Speaker 1:For if you could do this for a million dollars, would you do it? And I'm like no cause, I'd be miserable. So for me, yeah, I'd be good. Now, what I would do for this much money is somebody want me to give them like feet pics? Sure, me too, see, like if I don't have, or honestly, any any pics. Probably For that amount, I probably would. Oh, you would. Okay, you heard it here first. I'm going to get an offer in our DMs. Katie's going to Dear Katie, I have $30,000. She's going to start an OnlyFans. Oh my God. But listen, if that's how you make income, I support you and you go for it. Be safe. I'm saying I have to.
Speaker 1:I personally, danny, has issues, so I don't know if I could let go of those to be able to do that. I think I would, just I just couldn't do it. I think they're, I mean like, but if they said $100,000, I'd be like, oh damn, yeah, I don't know. I think so and also, I mean I have questions. I think too that my like brain is so hardwired for like business brain yeah, you are. That's what I think of.
Speaker 1:When I hear that I like, right away my math starts doing how long that would take me to make any other legitimate way. That's not a stranger propositioning me and I'm like dang, that would take a really long time. And also, should we factor in the time involved? Is this like a whole evening or is it like 15 minutes? I thought it said one night. What did it say? Oh, one night. Oh, yeah, one night. So that could be multiple times. Yeah, but it's still what? Eight to 10 hours. So what's the math on the hours? I mean that's I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Twenty five hundred dollars an hour, I mean, or more, depending how long you were there. So that's what I mean, my business brain and you're coming at it with a emotions and heart, always brain.
Speaker 1:That's why I suck at business and I'm like my husband would be like, cool, pay that thing off. He probably wouldn't, he'd probably be very upset, yeah, but like I'm just like maybe he wouldn't care, I don't know. Like I'm gonna ask troy this question tonight. I'm gonna ask brent too and I'll be like what, what would you say? Because brent would be like why? Who asked?
Speaker 1:Okay, let's flip it around, though, if he called you up, if he was on a trip, and he called you up and said, hey, this person said there, you give me this money. What do you think? What would you say? I'd say, go ahead, fucking, really, if it was a stranger, not if it was someone you knew what that's better. Yeah, oh, my god. No, I would. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to see the person or interact with the person, because that would bother me. But if I really didn't know who it was and thirty thousand dollars showed up in our account. I wouldn't care. I really would not care. You couldn't do it.
Speaker 1:I want to cry just thinking about that. I'm over here like, yeah, you're like. I'm going to cry, like I don't know what's wrong with me. Sorry, everyone, that means there's anything wrong with either one of us. I think it's just people. I think that I think this was a great example of human nature and how we're so different, we're all wired, so different. It's preposterous, actually, that any of us find common ground because we're on sexually and emotionally, because we're so all over the place. Yeah, because for you, like I mean, and granted, both things make sense, yeah, like both situations, like both reactions make sense, yeah, so, and there's other reactions out there that also make sense, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so now here's another twist to the question that we didn't even think about. Oh no, how would the age and gender of the person affect your answer? What is? I think Katie's going to say it won't. What is the difference? What is the difference between well, that's obvious having sex for immediate cash and having sex in the hope of other future benefits? I mean, that's that one's dumb. I don't want to answer that one. I won't even dignify that one. I mean, obviously I think we already know what we're both going to say, because I am reluctant, no matter who it is or how old. You are Right and you're like give me the money, I don't care, I don't care about gender.
Speaker 1:I would say I would be reluctant if it was someone under 25. Oh see, now I was just thinking older. Why didn't I think younger? That's weird. I think younger would would probably bother me. Why? Just because of my age and also like the fact that my children are. Some of my kids are that age and so are their friends not that age. They're way under that. They're 18-ish, but they're closer to your kids. But like, let's say it was someone who was 18. That that's technically legal, but I wouldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't do that. Also, I'd be like where'd you get thirty thousand dollars? Get out of here, child. Um, so it would have to be like an established cut off. Yeah, you have a cut off.
Speaker 1:I think it would be like 25 and above, and older. I don't think older, I, I don't care. I mean, yeah, frontal lobe has to be developed, which is there you go. Maybe that's why I said 25. We had a whole discussion on frontal lobes again in my house. It's a common topic, right right this morning troy and I were talking about that and that's the whole like consent thing too. Like you might be 18, but if your frontal lobe isn't formed until 25, correct? It's different if you're dating other 22-year-olds and you're 22. It's much different if the person's well beyond. So I just feel like to me that's sort of like the age of consent. Yeah, I agree, and it's still very much on the young side. But for the sake of this question, that would be my answer.
Speaker 1:So, katie Wood, I think I'm a question mark on these. I just don't know. I mean, that's so, katie would I think I think I'm a question mark on these. I just don't know, I don't. But I say that and then emotionally I don't think I can handle it. That's just myself.
Speaker 1:I'm just an emotionless cash register. You know what it is is. I have a really hard time compartmentalizing my thoughts and I think you're a good business woman because you can with some things. So if you went into it as this is a business transaction and that's what it's going to be you would be able for that amount of time, to just do that Get your money and be like, okay, bless and release, bless and release, got my check, cash and release Venmo on my way. But I don't, I just, and I mean that doesn't that's not wrong or bad or anything, it's just the way. It's just that I wish I could, like I. That's why I have horrible bouts with anxiety, which you do too, but for other reasons, you know, we, everybody, anxiety is very flavored, very yeah, but that's the hard thing. I can't shut off Like it's like everything goes together all at once. It's like a big pot of mess. All the time I feel that, and so I and I wish I could take emotions out of things, because you know I'm a crier, so somebody would probably ask me that and I'd probably cry Like hello, if you just start crying, I don't know why I have such problems with sexuality and intimacy, I don't know. And laptops and all the teeth. It comes back to the electromagnetic force field that's in me. That's the problem, guys. All right, we just solved life, we solved everything.
Speaker 1:Moving on to trivia All right, you did 80s last. This time, before we do trivia, what did you think of the book of questions? I really like it. It's interesting. Right, we'll have to bring it back. Yeah, it's fun. I think it was fun. It's a good dinner party thing when you have a mix of people who maybe don't know each other.
Speaker 1:Well, oh, feel weird answering that question in front of that last one. Well, you could be selective, true, like you could pass. I'd probably, I probably would have said no if it was in a group of strangers. Really, oh, yeah, would you, even though that's not your real thoughts. You just told the, I just told the whole universe, but, but if you're at a dinner party looking me in the eye, but I would probably listening to your podcast on on youtube, you'll tell them, yeah, because I feel like those are my people, if they've listened this long to the. What if this is their first episode? But they're still an hour in before we started talking about that interesting, so that might.
Speaker 1:I would say my answer, no matter what, maybe not all my no, probably all the details. That's part of my problem is, I don't know how to. We were not to get too much into, but we were sort of having this conversation before we recorded about a Facebook group. Oh, I thought you were going to say about how I don't know how to act, about how you just need to get it together, dani. No, about how I was saying I was uncomfortable in a space, oh sure, and you were like, oh, I'm just myself in that space, you know, and it was kind of a similar conversation to what we're saying right now.
Speaker 1:That's not right or wrong. Neither things are right or wrong. Yeah, right and right, and in each circumstance it makes some some things harder and some things easier. For sure things, yeah for sure. Look at us, look at us, go full circle. Okay, you go. I think we should go with 80s first. I have to pull the card, okay. So, for those who are just listening, we now um, we just started this.
Speaker 1:We each read each other a trivia question at the end of every episode. We have an 80s trivia game and a 90s trivia game. Last week, dani read the 80s question, I read the 90s, so we're flipping today, yeah, so see if you get it right. All right, draw a card here. I'm doing it, troy, I'm doing it right. Okay, oh, okay, no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Oh, was it Chili Peppers? The Red Hot Chili Peppers? The red hot chili peppers? Positive, but let me make sure, yes, yeah, chili peppers. I mean they were like wearing their instruments, maybe, but were they not? Were they just running around? They might have. I think they were just flopping, or maybe not. They were just performing in socks. I remember that. I mean, I don't like I wasn't there, wait. So they weren't on their feet, though. Were they on their, it says, to cover themselves? Oh, they were on their wieners, it must have been. I was thinking they were just in socks and that was the joke, but it sounds like the socks were on them. Well then, I'm remembering something totally wrong. I don't know what's happening. There was a different all-male band that must've done that. All right. Red hot chili peppers Great. Well, now I have to Google this because I want to see, I got to check it out. Everybody Google up red hot chili peppers on tube socks.
Speaker 1:Oh, the eighties. What a wild time. All right, oh, yeah, another picture. Okay, what does this mean? I'm just going to do it. All right, for those of y'all listening. Actually, I'm going to do a different one because I don't want, I don't want to have to knock everything over. Yeah, hold on, I don't want pictures, just want to question before. Okay, oh, this is good, all right.
Speaker 1:1990s Katie, who was the victim? And the Olympic scandal that was dubbed the whack herd round the world, the victim. You said yes, nancy Kerrigan, correct, that was so crazy. Oh, I remember seeing that as it happened, did you? Yeah, uh, I don't see. That's the thing about memory. I don't know if I saw it live or if there were just so many replays that I saw it like within the first 24 hours or something, but I remember it and it was obviously a scandal for a long time.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a really good. You're Wrong About that. Yes, have you listened to that one on Tanya Harding? I kind of want to go re-listen. I know it's really good. Also, a podcast we love You're Wrong About. You're Wrong About shout outs today. Well, that was really fun. Well, I'm not happy that your laptop died, but I am happy that it led us to this episode and we're still going to get the great episode that you're researching next week or down the road. So it's going to be great, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks for listening, listeners, and I want to know your answers to some of these. Reach out to us, tell us what you think, especially the last one out to us. Tell us what you think, especially the last one. Are you team Danny or team Katie Well, there's not just two answers, though or team yourself, because that's the good thing about the question book everyone is. There's not just two answers. What did they say? It's not a destination, it's a journey or something. Or you jump off. It's a jumping off point for more thought. Oh, we're going to find out. We're going to end this. This will be our witty ending. The questions are meant as a point of departure, not a destination. I love it. Until next week, everyone. Yes, have a fun destination. That makes no sense, Okay, but have fun. Talk to you next time. See you later, bye.